Rove: Biden a 'blowhard' and 'liar'

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
wellll...OK!!!
Let`s belief factor---
GWB ---NOT!!!!!
Biden -- most definately!!!

So the letter "D" gives people credibility while the letter "R" removes credibility.

Sounds like irrefutable logic to me

No, ignorance gives YOU no credibility what so ever. Seriously, focus on school because you suck at trying to portray your ignorance as valid information.

I never claimed to have any credibility. What I do claim is to look beyond the labels "Republican" and "Democrat" in forming my opinions.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
wellll...OK!!!
Let`s belief factor---
GWB ---NOT!!!!!
Biden -- most definately!!!

So the letter "D" gives people credibility while the letter "R" removes credibility.

Sounds like irrefutable logic to me

No, ignorance gives YOU no credibility what so ever. Seriously, focus on school because you suck at trying to portray your ignorance as valid information.

I never claimed to have any credibility. What I do claim is to look beyond the labels "Republican" and "Democrat" in forming my opinions.

Well i'm a Tory AND a Liberal so i really don't give a shit, people from both sides have been on me since i joined so i know how you feel.

I might have been a tad harsh though and for that i am sorry. I tend to post a lot when i'm free (which is rare these days) and sometimes i misread, in your case it was even worse, i took a completely harmless reply and attacked you on that and it's completely my error.

It's no excuse but it is an explanation.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Really? Bush Cheney and Rove need to DIE?

What fucking good would that do us, they already fucked things up, their demise wouldn't make any difference what so ever.

My fault really, they need to be punished for their actions and to me, hanging sounds like something i'd recommend, or firing squad.

Preferably done by the peers of those dead in Afghanistan and Iraq because of the choices made by those three people.

How far down the chain do we go? Should Colon Powell be killed as well? What about other members of the Administration and other top military people? Any generals or anything you would like to see put to death? How about some British Generals and politicians as well.. would you like to mark any of them for death as well?

Colin Powell followed orders. (I had a deep seated respect for the man after the Balkan wars but it all went away when he tried to push known lies)

Obviously, since you're what, 12, you won't get this but the order and the perpetrators didn't come from lower ranks, it came from those three and one more, sorry, i forgot to mention Blair in the last message, i would like to see him hung too.

These people are traitors who lied to the people and to all of us in the military.

I have no sympathy for them, hang them all and hang them low.

Should they have trials? Or should we just take your word for it and kill them?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Really? Bush Cheney and Rove need to DIE?

What fucking good would that do us, they already fucked things up, their demise wouldn't make any difference what so ever.

My fault really, they need to be punished for their actions and to me, hanging sounds like something i'd recommend, or firing squad.

Preferably done by the peers of those dead in Afghanistan and Iraq because of the choices made by those three people.

How far down the chain do we go? Should Colon Powell be killed as well? What about other members of the Administration and other top military people? Any generals or anything you would like to see put to death? How about some British Generals and politicians as well.. would you like to mark any of them for death as well?

Colin Powell followed orders. (I had a deep seated respect for the man after the Balkan wars but it all went away when he tried to push known lies)

Obviously, since you're what, 12, you won't get this but the order and the perpetrators didn't come from lower ranks, it came from those three and one more, sorry, i forgot to mention Blair in the last message, i would like to see him hung too.

These people are traitors who lied to the people and to all of us in the military.

I have no sympathy for them, hang them all and hang them low.

Should they have trials? Or should we just take your word for it and kill them?

Of course they should, they should be brought before an international court just like Saddam should have been and Mladic won't ever be.

There are probably some people in the MI6 and CIA that should go before the same courts, i can't say much about the CIA because i honestly don't know much except from the people i've been working with but the MI6 definently have people that should go before an international court.

On this issue i can't really say anything but that.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
All one has to do is look at all the troops who have been killed for what pray tell....defending a lie perpetrated by none other than -----DRUM ROLL please----- GWB!!!!

Then why is Obama still asking our troops to die? Shouldn't he have immediately withdrawn every single one if the war was nothing but a lie? Why is Obama expecting our troops to continue to die for a lie? Why is Obama asking for more money to fight a lie?

Because it is not a lie. The war in Afghanistan and Iraq is just. But very badly mismanaged and it continues to this day. Why we are in Iraq and Afghanistan is right and we need to see it thru.

As for Rove, good for him. It's about time Biden was called a liar. Hopefully, the same will be done to Franks, Dodd, Reid and others - liars all.

Do NOT mix up the wars, Afghanistan was just because of an attack and because the Taliban refused to hand over the perpetrators, the Iraq war was completely unustified, COMPLETELY unjustified.

Rove, Cheney and GW needs to just die, they have done NOTHING positive, they left us alone in Afghanistan, the REAL battlefield and focused on something that was just made up.

Really? Bush Cheney and Rove need to DIE?

I'd prefer it if they had died long before any of them had started the Iraq war, you don't know sheit about me so you probably don't know why but both dphantom and Harvey who have participated in this thread do.

Now? Well better nate than lever as they say in Brazil.

I don't really give a fuck what your history is. I don't think it gives you a right to wish for the DEATH of people. At the very least you could suggest a criminal TRIAL for Bush/Cheney/etc.. but no, you are judge jury and executioner apparently.. Do the Brits let you carry a weapon? I hope those around you are safe and they don't piss you off to the point you decide THEY might need to die.

Why not? They caused the death of my men without any form of justice or trials.

And yes, i am a judge, jury and executionor, that is what i do for a living.

I'm a Captain in the SAS TFB and i am IN Afghanistan (sort of), they trust me with not only a gun but several and to lead troops into battle in areas and direct strikes.

Yeah, people piss me off and they are not safe, they are known as the Taliban, if you could get it into your pathetic little teenie weenie mind that you DO NOT KNOW ME, that is why i gave you a hint and if you had any kind of fucking sense in that fucking walnut you got for a brain you would have waited before you replied.

Why do I need to know you? You are posting on an internet forum. You are saying that the President and other high officials in the British and American governments should DIE because you say so. Maybe you should forward some of your postings here to your CO and see what they think of your posts? You sound like a seriously angry and hateful person who probably shouldn't be in a position of power. As I said I hope nobody gets hurt under your command because you are so angry. I don't have any doubt you are who you say you are, but you certainly aren't acting like the military officers I know. I hope for the sake of the people around you that you act more mature while facing the enemy than you do when facing people who disagree with you on Anandtech.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
All one has to do is look at all the troops who have been killed for what pray tell....defending a lie perpetrated by none other than -----DRUM ROLL please----- GWB!!!!

Then why is Obama still asking our troops to die? Shouldn't he have immediately withdrawn every single one if the war was nothing but a lie? Why is Obama expecting our troops to continue to die for a lie? Why is Obama asking for more money to fight a lie?

Because it is not a lie. The war in Afghanistan and Iraq is just. But very badly mismanaged and it continues to this day. Why we are in Iraq and Afghanistan is right and we need to see it thru.

As for Rove, good for him. It's about time Biden was called a liar. Hopefully, the same will be done to Franks, Dodd, Reid and others - liars all.

Do NOT mix up the wars, Afghanistan was just because of an attack and because the Taliban refused to hand over the perpetrators, the Iraq war was completely unustified, COMPLETELY unjustified.

Rove, Cheney and GW needs to just die, they have done NOTHING positive, they left us alone in Afghanistan, the REAL battlefield and focused on something that was just made up.

Really? Bush Cheney and Rove need to DIE?

I'd prefer it if they had died long before any of them had started the Iraq war, you don't know sheit about me so you probably don't know why but both dphantom and Harvey who have participated in this thread do.

Now? Well better nate than lever as they say in Brazil.

I don't really give a fuck what your history is. I don't think it gives you a right to wish for the DEATH of people. At the very least you could suggest a criminal TRIAL for Bush/Cheney/etc.. but no, you are judge jury and executioner apparently.. Do the Brits let you carry a weapon? I hope those around you are safe and they don't piss you off to the point you decide THEY might need to die.

Why not? They caused the death of my men without any form of justice or trials.

And yes, i am a judge, jury and executionor, that is what i do for a living.

I'm a Captain in the SAS TFB and i am IN Afghanistan (sort of), they trust me with not only a gun but several and to lead troops into battle in areas and direct strikes.

Yeah, people piss me off and they are not safe, they are known as the Taliban, if you could get it into your pathetic little teenie weenie mind that you DO NOT KNOW ME, that is why i gave you a hint and if you had any kind of fucking sense in that fucking walnut you got for a brain you would have waited before you replied.

Why do I need to know you? You are posting on an internet forum. You are saying that the President and other high officials in the British and American governments should DIE because you say so. Maybe you should forward some of your postings here to your CO and see what they think of your posts? You sound like a seriously angry and hateful person who probably shouldn't be in a position of power. As I said I hope nobody gets hurt under your command because you are so angry. I don't have any doubt you are who you say you are, but you certainly aren't acting like the military officers I know. I hope for the sake of the people around you that you act more mature while facing the enemy than you do when facing people who disagree with you on Anandtech.

Now i have explained this to your dumb arse three times and i'm done with it.

I you can't understand what you read then how in the FUCK am i going to get throught any information to you?

And requests of maturity from a pre teen twat like you, seriously?

My CO? You really have no clue, this is why i said YOU DON'T KNOW ME.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
The former administration should show some decorum and respect and STFU.

This story was started by Biden and his false statements.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Really? Bush Cheney and Rove need to DIE?

What fucking good would that do us, they already fucked things up, their demise wouldn't make any difference what so ever.

My fault really, they need to be punished for their actions and to me, hanging sounds like something i'd recommend, or firing squad.

Preferably done by the peers of those dead in Afghanistan and Iraq because of the choices made by those three people.

How far down the chain do we go? Should Colon Powell be killed as well? What about other members of the Administration and other top military people? Any generals or anything you would like to see put to death? How about some British Generals and politicians as well.. would you like to mark any of them for death as well?

Colin Powell followed orders. (I had a deep seated respect for the man after the Balkan wars but it all went away when he tried to push known lies)

Obviously, since you're what, 12, you won't get this but the order and the perpetrators didn't come from lower ranks, it came from those three and one more, sorry, i forgot to mention Blair in the last message, i would like to see him hung too.

These people are traitors who lied to the people and to all of us in the military.

I have no sympathy for them, hang them all and hang them low.

Should they have trials? Or should we just take your word for it and kill them?

Of course they should, they should be brought before an international court just like Saddam should have been and Mladic won't ever be.

There are probably some people in the MI6 and CIA that should go before the same courts, i can't say much about the CIA because i honestly don't know much except from the people i've been working with but the MI6 definently have people that should go before an international court.

On this issue i can't really say anything but that.

Right.. the old 'I could tell you but I'd have to kill you' excuse.. LOL.. Thanks. That really helps with your credibility. Again I have no doubt you are who you say you are and hold the position that you do. However, to think that a Captain in the British military would hold all this information that could be judge and juror to the President's of America and Britain is just absurd.

Again, you seem to be very willing to share these opinions with ATPN - I'm wondering if you CC your commanding officer on them as well? Surely if you are willing to share them with us, your CO should know about your thoughts on the people you are serving under? (Or were).

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
All one has to do is look at all the troops who have been killed for what pray tell....defending a lie perpetrated by none other than -----DRUM ROLL please----- GWB!!!!

Then why is Obama still asking our troops to die? Shouldn't he have immediately withdrawn every single one if the war was nothing but a lie? Why is Obama expecting our troops to continue to die for a lie? Why is Obama asking for more money to fight a lie?

Because it is not a lie. The war in Afghanistan and Iraq is just. But very badly mismanaged and it continues to this day. Why we are in Iraq and Afghanistan is right and we need to see it thru.

As for Rove, good for him. It's about time Biden was called a liar. Hopefully, the same will be done to Franks, Dodd, Reid and others - liars all.

Do NOT mix up the wars, Afghanistan was just because of an attack and because the Taliban refused to hand over the perpetrators, the Iraq war was completely unustified, COMPLETELY unjustified.

Rove, Cheney and GW needs to just die, they have done NOTHING positive, they left us alone in Afghanistan, the REAL battlefield and focused on something that was just made up.

Really? Bush Cheney and Rove need to DIE?

I'd prefer it if they had died long before any of them had started the Iraq war, you don't know sheit about me so you probably don't know why but both dphantom and Harvey who have participated in this thread do.

Now? Well better nate than lever as they say in Brazil.

I don't really give a fuck what your history is. I don't think it gives you a right to wish for the DEATH of people. At the very least you could suggest a criminal TRIAL for Bush/Cheney/etc.. but no, you are judge jury and executioner apparently.. Do the Brits let you carry a weapon? I hope those around you are safe and they don't piss you off to the point you decide THEY might need to die.

Why not? They caused the death of my men without any form of justice or trials.

And yes, i am a judge, jury and executionor, that is what i do for a living.

I'm a Captain in the SAS TFB and i am IN Afghanistan (sort of), they trust me with not only a gun but several and to lead troops into battle in areas and direct strikes.

Yeah, people piss me off and they are not safe, they are known as the Taliban, if you could get it into your pathetic little teenie weenie mind that you DO NOT KNOW ME, that is why i gave you a hint and if you had any kind of fucking sense in that fucking walnut you got for a brain you would have waited before you replied.

Why do I need to know you? You are posting on an internet forum. You are saying that the President and other high officials in the British and American governments should DIE because you say so. Maybe you should forward some of your postings here to your CO and see what they think of your posts? You sound like a seriously angry and hateful person who probably shouldn't be in a position of power. As I said I hope nobody gets hurt under your command because you are so angry. I don't have any doubt you are who you say you are, but you certainly aren't acting like the military officers I know. I hope for the sake of the people around you that you act more mature while facing the enemy than you do when facing people who disagree with you on Anandtech.

Now i have explained this to your dumb arse three times and i'm done with it.

I you can't understand what you read then how in the FUCK am i going to get throught any information to you?

And requests of maturity from a pre teen twat like you, seriously?

My CO? You really have no clue, this is why i said YOU DON'T KNOW ME.

You are arguing with someone on Anandtech named 'Fear No Evil' about killing Bush, Cheney, Rove, and Blair... And getting seriously angry about the responses you are getting. Yes, I think I do have the right to question your maturity level.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Really? Bush Cheney and Rove need to DIE?

What fucking good would that do us, they already fucked things up, their demise wouldn't make any difference what so ever.

My fault really, they need to be punished for their actions and to me, hanging sounds like something i'd recommend, or firing squad.

Preferably done by the peers of those dead in Afghanistan and Iraq because of the choices made by those three people.

How far down the chain do we go? Should Colon Powell be killed as well? What about other members of the Administration and other top military people? Any generals or anything you would like to see put to death? How about some British Generals and politicians as well.. would you like to mark any of them for death as well?

Colin Powell followed orders. (I had a deep seated respect for the man after the Balkan wars but it all went away when he tried to push known lies)

Obviously, since you're what, 12, you won't get this but the order and the perpetrators didn't come from lower ranks, it came from those three and one more, sorry, i forgot to mention Blair in the last message, i would like to see him hung too.

These people are traitors who lied to the people and to all of us in the military.

I have no sympathy for them, hang them all and hang them low.

Should they have trials? Or should we just take your word for it and kill them?

Of course they should, they should be brought before an international court just like Saddam should have been and Mladic won't ever be.

There are probably some people in the MI6 and CIA that should go before the same courts, i can't say much about the CIA because i honestly don't know much except from the people i've been working with but the MI6 definently have people that should go before an international court.

On this issue i can't really say anything but that.

Right.. the old 'I could tell you but I'd have to kill you' excuse.. LOL.. Thanks. That really helps with your credibility. Again I have no doubt you are who you say you are and hold the position that you do. However, to think that a Captain in the British military would hold all this information that could be judge and juror to the President's of America and Britain is just absurd.

Again, you seem to be very willing to share these opinions with ATPN - I'm wondering if you CC your commanding officer on them as well? Surely if you are willing to share them with us, your CO should know about your thoughts on the people you are serving under? (Or were).

You were given the information you asked for, if you want more you can probably find it but i can't give you more information, i gave you more than you'd ever need to satisfy your need to know.

Again, CO? This is why you should read closer and not assume.

You don't have the faintest clue about who i am and how the SAS works.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
All one has to do is look at all the troops who have been killed for what pray tell....defending a lie perpetrated by none other than -----DRUM ROLL please----- GWB!!!!

Then why is Obama still asking our troops to die? Shouldn't he have immediately withdrawn every single one if the war was nothing but a lie? Why is Obama expecting our troops to continue to die for a lie? Why is Obama asking for more money to fight a lie?

Because it is not a lie. The war in Afghanistan and Iraq is just. But very badly mismanaged and it continues to this day. Why we are in Iraq and Afghanistan is right and we need to see it thru.

As for Rove, good for him. It's about time Biden was called a liar. Hopefully, the same will be done to Franks, Dodd, Reid and others - liars all.

Do NOT mix up the wars, Afghanistan was just because of an attack and because the Taliban refused to hand over the perpetrators, the Iraq war was completely unustified, COMPLETELY unjustified.

Rove, Cheney and GW needs to just die, they have done NOTHING positive, they left us alone in Afghanistan, the REAL battlefield and focused on something that was just made up.

Really? Bush Cheney and Rove need to DIE?

I'd prefer it if they had died long before any of them had started the Iraq war, you don't know sheit about me so you probably don't know why but both dphantom and Harvey who have participated in this thread do.

Now? Well better nate than lever as they say in Brazil.

I don't really give a fuck what your history is. I don't think it gives you a right to wish for the DEATH of people. At the very least you could suggest a criminal TRIAL for Bush/Cheney/etc.. but no, you are judge jury and executioner apparently.. Do the Brits let you carry a weapon? I hope those around you are safe and they don't piss you off to the point you decide THEY might need to die.

Why not? They caused the death of my men without any form of justice or trials.

And yes, i am a judge, jury and executionor, that is what i do for a living.

I'm a Captain in the SAS TFB and i am IN Afghanistan (sort of), they trust me with not only a gun but several and to lead troops into battle in areas and direct strikes.

Yeah, people piss me off and they are not safe, they are known as the Taliban, if you could get it into your pathetic little teenie weenie mind that you DO NOT KNOW ME, that is why i gave you a hint and if you had any kind of fucking sense in that fucking walnut you got for a brain you would have waited before you replied.

Why do I need to know you? You are posting on an internet forum. You are saying that the President and other high officials in the British and American governments should DIE because you say so. Maybe you should forward some of your postings here to your CO and see what they think of your posts? You sound like a seriously angry and hateful person who probably shouldn't be in a position of power. As I said I hope nobody gets hurt under your command because you are so angry. I don't have any doubt you are who you say you are, but you certainly aren't acting like the military officers I know. I hope for the sake of the people around you that you act more mature while facing the enemy than you do when facing people who disagree with you on Anandtech.

Now i have explained this to your dumb arse three times and i'm done with it.

I you can't understand what you read then how in the FUCK am i going to get throught any information to you?

And requests of maturity from a pre teen twat like you, seriously?

My CO? You really have no clue, this is why i said YOU DON'T KNOW ME.

You are arguing with someone on Anandtech named 'Fear No Evil' about killing Bush, Cheney, Rove, and Blair... And getting seriously angry about the responses you are getting. Yes, I think I do have the right to question your maturity level.

You got your answer if they should go to court, i answered you about that.

Now a man of average intelligence might understand that post, it's clear for all to see that you did not.

Don't be fucking daft and i won't treat you like you are.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Really? Bush Cheney and Rove need to DIE?

What fucking good would that do us, they already fucked things up, their demise wouldn't make any difference what so ever.

My fault really, they need to be punished for their actions and to me, hanging sounds like something i'd recommend, or firing squad.

Preferably done by the peers of those dead in Afghanistan and Iraq because of the choices made by those three people.

How far down the chain do we go? Should Colon Powell be killed as well? What about other members of the Administration and other top military people? Any generals or anything you would like to see put to death? How about some British Generals and politicians as well.. would you like to mark any of them for death as well?

Colin Powell followed orders. (I had a deep seated respect for the man after the Balkan wars but it all went away when he tried to push known lies)

Obviously, since you're what, 12, you won't get this but the order and the perpetrators didn't come from lower ranks, it came from those three and one more, sorry, i forgot to mention Blair in the last message, i would like to see him hung too.

These people are traitors who lied to the people and to all of us in the military.

I have no sympathy for them, hang them all and hang them low.

Should they have trials? Or should we just take your word for it and kill them?

Of course they should, they should be brought before an international court just like Saddam should have been and Mladic won't ever be.

There are probably some people in the MI6 and CIA that should go before the same courts, i can't say much about the CIA because i honestly don't know much except from the people i've been working with but the MI6 definently have people that should go before an international court.

On this issue i can't really say anything but that.

Right.. the old 'I could tell you but I'd have to kill you' excuse.. LOL.. Thanks. That really helps with your credibility. Again I have no doubt you are who you say you are and hold the position that you do. However, to think that a Captain in the British military would hold all this information that could be judge and juror to the President's of America and Britain is just absurd.

Again, you seem to be very willing to share these opinions with ATPN - I'm wondering if you CC your commanding officer on them as well? Surely if you are willing to share them with us, your CO should know about your thoughts on the people you are serving under? (Or were).

You were given the information you asked for, if you want more you can probably find it but i can't give you more information, i gave you more than you'd ever need to satisfy your need to know.

Again, CO? This is why you should read closer and not assume.

You don't have the faintest clue about who i am and how the SAS works.

No, I don't know how the SAS works.. yer right on that point. I'm guessing it doesn't however give you the right to kill the President of the U.S. or Britain.. I could be wrong on that though. I'm guessing you also have to report to someone for your actions. Again, unless you are granted some sort of exception from the rules of engagement and the laws of Britain to do your job.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Really? Bush Cheney and Rove need to DIE?

What fucking good would that do us, they already fucked things up, their demise wouldn't make any difference what so ever.

My fault really, they need to be punished for their actions and to me, hanging sounds like something i'd recommend, or firing squad.

Preferably done by the peers of those dead in Afghanistan and Iraq because of the choices made by those three people.

How far down the chain do we go? Should Colon Powell be killed as well? What about other members of the Administration and other top military people? Any generals or anything you would like to see put to death? How about some British Generals and politicians as well.. would you like to mark any of them for death as well?

Colin Powell followed orders. (I had a deep seated respect for the man after the Balkan wars but it all went away when he tried to push known lies)

Obviously, since you're what, 12, you won't get this but the order and the perpetrators didn't come from lower ranks, it came from those three and one more, sorry, i forgot to mention Blair in the last message, i would like to see him hung too.

These people are traitors who lied to the people and to all of us in the military.

I have no sympathy for them, hang them all and hang them low.

Should they have trials? Or should we just take your word for it and kill them?

Of course they should, they should be brought before an international court just like Saddam should have been and Mladic won't ever be.

There are probably some people in the MI6 and CIA that should go before the same courts, i can't say much about the CIA because i honestly don't know much except from the people i've been working with but the MI6 definently have people that should go before an international court.

On this issue i can't really say anything but that.

Right.. the old 'I could tell you but I'd have to kill you' excuse.. LOL.. Thanks. That really helps with your credibility. Again I have no doubt you are who you say you are and hold the position that you do. However, to think that a Captain in the British military would hold all this information that could be judge and juror to the President's of America and Britain is just absurd.

Again, you seem to be very willing to share these opinions with ATPN - I'm wondering if you CC your commanding officer on them as well? Surely if you are willing to share them with us, your CO should know about your thoughts on the people you are serving under? (Or were).

You were given the information you asked for, if you want more you can probably find it but i can't give you more information, i gave you more than you'd ever need to satisfy your need to know.

Again, CO? This is why you should read closer and not assume.

You don't have the faintest clue about who i am and how the SAS works.

No, I don't know how the SAS works.. yer right on that point. I'm guessing it doesn't however give you the right to kill the President of the U.S. or Britain.. I could be wrong on that though. I'm guessing you also have to report to someone for your actions. Again, unless you are granted some sort of exception from the rules of engagement and the laws of Britain to do your job.

Well, nitwit, first of all Britain doesn't have a President, we have a Prime Minister and Blair is our ex Prime minister, now that you didn't know that i can understand but that you don't get that GW isn't the president of the US i really can't understand.

Just so you won't make an even bigger fool out of yourself, the Special Air Service doesn't work like other regular troops, on this mission, there is one CO and that is the team leader, we work independantly as a first strike force, we were first on the ground in both Afghanistan and Iraq and the only commanding officer this team has is me, we may or may not work with CIA, USAF , SSG or other similar groups but i have no one higher than me when it comes to decide what this team does, we have one outstanding order and there won't ever be a second one.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Really? Bush Cheney and Rove need to DIE?

What fucking good would that do us, they already fucked things up, their demise wouldn't make any difference what so ever.

My fault really, they need to be punished for their actions and to me, hanging sounds like something i'd recommend, or firing squad.

Preferably done by the peers of those dead in Afghanistan and Iraq because of the choices made by those three people.

How far down the chain do we go? Should Colon Powell be killed as well? What about other members of the Administration and other top military people? Any generals or anything you would like to see put to death? How about some British Generals and politicians as well.. would you like to mark any of them for death as well?

Colin Powell followed orders. (I had a deep seated respect for the man after the Balkan wars but it all went away when he tried to push known lies)

Obviously, since you're what, 12, you won't get this but the order and the perpetrators didn't come from lower ranks, it came from those three and one more, sorry, i forgot to mention Blair in the last message, i would like to see him hung too.

These people are traitors who lied to the people and to all of us in the military.

I have no sympathy for them, hang them all and hang them low.

Should they have trials? Or should we just take your word for it and kill them?

Of course they should, they should be brought before an international court just like Saddam should have been and Mladic won't ever be.

There are probably some people in the MI6 and CIA that should go before the same courts, i can't say much about the CIA because i honestly don't know much except from the people i've been working with but the MI6 definently have people that should go before an international court.

On this issue i can't really say anything but that.

Right.. the old 'I could tell you but I'd have to kill you' excuse.. LOL.. Thanks. That really helps with your credibility. Again I have no doubt you are who you say you are and hold the position that you do. However, to think that a Captain in the British military would hold all this information that could be judge and juror to the President's of America and Britain is just absurd.

Again, you seem to be very willing to share these opinions with ATPN - I'm wondering if you CC your commanding officer on them as well? Surely if you are willing to share them with us, your CO should know about your thoughts on the people you are serving under? (Or were).

You were given the information you asked for, if you want more you can probably find it but i can't give you more information, i gave you more than you'd ever need to satisfy your need to know.

Again, CO? This is why you should read closer and not assume.

You don't have the faintest clue about who i am and how the SAS works.

No, I don't know how the SAS works.. yer right on that point. I'm guessing it doesn't however give you the right to kill the President of the U.S. or Britain.. I could be wrong on that though. I'm guessing you also have to report to someone for your actions. Again, unless you are granted some sort of exception from the rules of engagement and the laws of Britain to do your job.

Well, nitwit, first of all Britain doesn't have a President, we have a Prime Minister and Blair is our ex Prime minister, now that you didn't know that i can understand but that you don't get that GW isn't the president of the US i really can't understand.

Just so you won't make an even bigger fool out of yourself, the Special Air Service doesn't work like other regular troops, on this mission, there is one CO and that is the team leader, we work independantly as a first strike force, we were first on the ground in both Afghanistan and Iraq and the only commanding officer this team has is me, we may or may not work with CIA, USAF , SSG or other similar groups but i have no one higher than me when it comes to decide what this team does, we have one outstanding order and there won't ever be a second one.

Sorry I get confused. You still have a Queen as well so its tough to tell what exactly your leaders are called.

I'm assuming you are not currently 'on a mission' here in Anandtech P&N. Unless the orders came in that your one and only mission is to post on Anandtech? If my assumption is right, and I sincerely apologize if you are indeed assigned to post at Anandtech, then you DO have a commanding officer that you would report to? I understand what you are saying about when being on the ground. You don't have anyone higher up than you. But I'm guessing you weren't sitting in Britain and just decided on your own to deploy your team to Afghanistan for the hell of it? Someone gave you the orders to do it.

But you are missing my point.. It seems pretty lame to sit on the Interweb and spout all this crap about current and former Presidents (Prime Ministers), say you have proof, and proclaim death upon said people, on an interenet forum. If things are as truly bad as you claim - You should probably be trying to convince someone in power of this and take action? Surely someone like Obama would listen to the evidence you have? Or is he in on the conspiracy as well? Surely he has access to the same info as you?

What are you suggesting a common person like myself should do? It sounds like I should be stocking up on ammo and guns and preparing for the 2nd coming the way you are implying that our leaders are corrupted. Or should I move to North Korea or somewhere safe?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Sorry I get confused. You still have a Queen as well so its tough to tell what exactly your leaders are called.

I'm assuming you are not currently 'on a mission' here in Anandtech P&N. Unless the orders came in that your one and only mission is to post on Anandtech? If my assumption is right, and I sincerely apologize if you are indeed assigned to post at Anandtech, then you DO have a commanding officer that you would report to? I understand what you are saying about when being on the ground. You don't have anyone higher up than you. But I'm guessing you weren't sitting in Britain and just decided on your own to deploy your team to Afghanistan for the hell of it? Someone gave you the orders to do it.

But you are missing my point.. It seems pretty lame to sit on the Interweb and spout all this crap about current and former Presidents (Prime Ministers), say you have proof, and proclaim death upon said people, on an interenet forum. If things are as truly bad as you claim - You should probably be trying to convince someone in power of this and take action? Surely someone like Obama would listen to the evidence you have? Or is he in on the conspiracy as well? Surely he has access to the same info as you?

What are you suggesting a common person like myself should do? It sounds like I should be stocking up on ammo and guns and preparing for the 2nd coming the way you are implying that our leaders are corrupted. Or should I move to North Korea or somewhere safe?

Yeah, you get confused a whole lot, don't you?

Perhaps there isn't much else to do in the middle of nowhere than to sit by the computer when you are free? Nah, didn't think of that, of course.

This is sheer stupidity, i have told you all i can and you have undertood nothing, you can respond as much as you like but in the future i will never reply to you.

You're just too fucking stupid to have a discussion with.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
wellll...OK!!!
Let`s belief factor---
GWB ---NOT!!!!!
Biden -- most definately!!!

So the letter "D" gives people credibility while the letter "R" removes credibility.

Sounds like irrefutable logic to me

No, ignorance gives YOU no credibility what so ever. Seriously, focus on school because you suck at trying to portray your ignorance as valid information.

I never claimed to have any credibility. What I do claim is to look beyond the labels "Republican" and "Democrat" in forming my opinions.

Well i'm a Tory AND a Liberal so i really don't give a shit, people from both sides have been on me since i joined so i know how you feel.

I might have been a tad harsh though and for that i am sorry. I tend to post a lot when i'm free (which is rare these days) and sometimes i misread, in your case it was even worse, i took a completely harmless reply and attacked you on that and it's completely my error.

It's no excuse but it is an explanation.

No prob. Lot of partisanship around here these forums. And I like to poke fun at those who seemingly blindly prop up the Democratic Party. Personally I take everything everyone in politics says with a grain of salt. That's the way we all _should_ think

And the common response around here is like "Yeah, where were the last 8 years during the Bush Administration?" And the answer to that is "Back then I was too busy with college courses to pay attention to politics."

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
wellll...OK!!!
Let`s belief factor---
GWB ---NOT!!!!!
Biden -- most definately!!!

So the letter "D" gives people credibility while the letter "R" removes credibility.

Sounds like irrefutable logic to me

No, ignorance gives YOU no credibility what so ever. Seriously, focus on school because you suck at trying to portray your ignorance as valid information.

I never claimed to have any credibility. What I do claim is to look beyond the labels "Republican" and "Democrat" in forming my opinions.

Well i'm a Tory AND a Liberal so i really don't give a shit, people from both sides have been on me since i joined so i know how you feel.

I might have been a tad harsh though and for that i am sorry. I tend to post a lot when i'm free (which is rare these days) and sometimes i misread, in your case it was even worse, i took a completely harmless reply and attacked you on that and it's completely my error.

It's no excuse but it is an explanation.

No prob. Lot of partisanship around here these forums. And I like to poke fun at those who seemingly blindly prop up the Democratic Party. Personally I take everything everyone in politics says with a grain of salt. That's the way we all _should_ think

And the common response around here is like "Yeah, where were the last 8 years during the Bush Administration?" And the answer to that is "Back then I was too busy with college courses to pay attention to politics."

Yeah, mostly i think you and me got off on the wrong foot from the start and it just continued.

I have a gripe with the Bush administration though and it's legitimate as you can read in this very thread. The Obama judgement will have to wait, for me, getting more troops and sparing us from border raids is a big help and it WILL prove successful, we just should have a shitload more troops here, about 300-400k would be nice but i'd settle for 150k just to do that one job.

I'm glad you took my apology and understand that i am not about politics at all, i'm all about finishing this and going home.

Cheers Cubby, if you have some eggnog, have one for me, and make mine all cognac, it IS easter after all.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
wellll...OK!!!
Let`s belief factor---
GWB ---NOT!!!!!
Biden -- most definately!!!

So the letter "D" gives people credibility while the letter "R" removes credibility.

Sounds like irrefutable logic to me

No, ignorance gives YOU no credibility what so ever. Seriously, focus on school because you suck at trying to portray your ignorance as valid information.

I never claimed to have any credibility. What I do claim is to look beyond the labels "Republican" and "Democrat" in forming my opinions.

Well i'm a Tory AND a Liberal so i really don't give a shit, people from both sides have been on me since i joined so i know how you feel.

I might have been a tad harsh though and for that i am sorry. I tend to post a lot when i'm free (which is rare these days) and sometimes i misread, in your case it was even worse, i took a completely harmless reply and attacked you on that and it's completely my error.

It's no excuse but it is an explanation.

No prob. Lot of partisanship around here these forums. And I like to poke fun at those who seemingly blindly prop up the Democratic Party. Personally I take everything everyone in politics says with a grain of salt. That's the way we all _should_ think

And the common response around here is like "Yeah, where were the last 8 years during the Bush Administration?" And the answer to that is "Back then I was too busy with college courses to pay attention to politics."

Yeah, mostly i think you and me got off on the wrong foot from the start and it just continued.

I have a gripe with the Bush administration though and it's legitimate as you can read in this very thread. The Obama judgement will have to wait, for me, getting more troops and sparing us from border raids is a big help and it WILL prove successful, we just should have a shitload more troops here, about 300-400k would be nice but i'd settle for 150k just to do that one job.

I'm glad you took my apology and understand that i am not about politics at all, i'm all about finishing this and going home.

Cheers Cubby, if you have some eggnog, have one for me, and make mine all cognac, it IS easter after all.

Maybe some of the worthless fucks in the rest of Europe should provide some troops. The one thing you and I can agree upon (Maybe) is at least Britain and the U.S. are doing their parts. Obama asked for them. Europe gave him the collective big middle finger.

 

[Jmman]

Regardless of your political persuasion, I think most rational people can agree that Biden is at the very least a major class blowhard. I remember an instance a few years back during one of the Supremes confirmation hearings where Biden asked a straight forward yes or no type question, and before the nominee was able to answer, good old Joe went off on what amounted to a speech of at least 25 minutes before the nominee finally was given an opportunity to answer "yes"......:laugh:

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Maybe some of the worthless fucks in the rest of Europe should provide some troops. The one thing you and I can agree upon (Maybe) is at least Britain and the U.S. are doing their parts. Obama asked for them. Europe gave him the collective big middle finger.

First of all, why the fuck should they? To support a nation that has been backtalking them for 8 years? GW caused that rift between the EU and the US, NO ONE ELSE.

The entire world stood up and was ready to help and the US President pissed all over them. Yeah, thats a great fucking incentive, no shared info, restricted access for troops, idiotic planning from the get go.. You want to blame someone, look no further than GW and his puppeteer Cheney.

Fucking politicians think they can direct troops in a war? Well if it was Wes Clark he could have but dumb and dumber are too stupid to realise that they haven't gotten the faintest clue about what happens on the ground if they don't even care about the information FROM the ground.

Secondly, almost every EU nation is sending more troops so they hardly "gave Obama the middle finger", hell even the Nordic countries are sending soldiers in the next couple of weeks, personally, i really don't give a shit, just don't fuck up with the border and let us do the job on the other side, no fucking negotiations with the ISI either, that is what backfired in the first place.

There, i'm done.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Jmman
Regardless of your political persuasion, I think most rational people can agree that Biden is at the very least a major class blowhard. I remember an instance a few years back during one of the Supremes confirmation hearings where Biden asked a straight forward yes or no type question, and before the nominee was able to answer, good old Joe went off on what amounted to a speech of at least 25 minutes before the nominee finally was given an opportunity to answer "yes"......:laugh:

That has nothing to do with this thread.....
Also please do not group everybody together as you just did....
Regardless of your political persuasion, I think most rational people can agree
Actually most rational people cannot agree......rational people come in many shapes...sizes.....and persuasions.

Now I am sure that most rational people can agree that when it comes to the lesser of two evils, Biden is easily the lesser of two evils!!

 

[trenchfoot]

Biden's Wikipedia Biography

Rove's Wikipedia Biography

Objectively compare for yourselves...

IMHO, Biden as a Man, as a Legislator, as a Father, as an American, all by a landslide over Rove, hands down.

Rove's bio reveals his true nature by deeds alone. This is one shady dude.

 

[Lemon law]

One of the faults of Biden, if we even want to call it a fault, is that his mind works somewhat similar to Newt Gingrich's. With Newt, it almost an new panacea idea of the week, wait a week or so and the old idea is replaced by a totally different one.

As for Rove, lets just put it this way, if I don't have anything good to say about him, maybe its just best to not say anything at all.

 

[JD50]

Why does the left care so much about right wing commentators?

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Maybe some of the worthless fucks in the rest of Europe should provide some troops. The one thing you and I can agree upon (Maybe) is at least Britain and the U.S. are doing their parts. Obama asked for them. Europe gave him the collective big middle finger.

First of all, why the fuck should they? To support a nation that has been backtalking them for 8 years? GW caused that rift between the EU and the US, NO ONE ELSE.

The entire world stood up and was ready to help and the US President pissed all over them. Yeah, thats a great fucking incentive, no shared info, restricted access for troops, idiotic planning from the get go.. You want to blame someone, look no further than GW and his puppeteer Cheney.

Fucking politicians think they can direct troops in a war? Well if it was Wes Clark he could have but dumb and dumber are too stupid to realise that they haven't gotten the faintest clue about what happens on the ground if they don't even care about the information FROM the ground.

Secondly, almost every EU nation is sending more troops so they hardly "gave Obama the middle finger", hell even the Nordic countries are sending soldiers in the next couple of weeks, personally, i really don't give a shit, just don't fuck up with the border and let us do the job on the other side, no fucking negotiations with the ISI either, that is what backfired in the first place.

There, i'm done.

You said you were done like 20 posts ago.. but here you keep posting. Why should the EU send more troops? Because they have a history of ignoring problems in this own backyard and they have a history of expecting the U.S. to clean it up for them. As for troops, the EU is sending some, but no combat troops:

http://www.latimes.com/news/na...9apr05,0,2215744.story

Surely President Obama - With all the respect he has, could have convinced ONE country in the EU to send additional combat troops?

I do think the more important question here is, why if you have all this proof of war crimes committed by the Bush Administration that you are not stepping forward and trying to expose them somewhere other than on Anandtech? Surely CNN, MSNBC, ABC News, the BBC, SOMEONE should be willing to listen to you? Is it not your moral obligation as a soldier not to obey an order which is illegal? Shouldn't you be exposing these crimes that you have this proof of?

Of course, perhaps these news organizations would not be so interested in listening to someone who apparently is so enraged that they have to post swear laced rants about supermarkets providing hand scanners:

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2293799

Seriously - You are losing grip with reality I think.. I truly fear for those around you - hopefully you don't snap because someone suggests that they prefer Apple Pie to Shepards Pie.