Rove: Biden a 'blowhard' and 'liar'

[JEDIYoda]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/21103

Karl Rove called Joe Biden a ?blowhard? and a ?liar? in response to some of the vice president?s comments about the Bush administration.

"He?s a serial exaggerator. If I was being unkind I would say he?s a liar, but it?s a habit he ought to drop,? Rove said on FOX News. "You should not exaggerate and lie like this when you are the vice president of the United States.?

Rove's comments are the harshest and most pointed yet in an ongoing feud between Biden and Bush administration officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney.

The former Bush adviser was referring to Biden?s comments earlier this week on CNN that he and President George W. Bush once had an exchange in the Oval Office, where Bush said, "Well, Joe ... I'm a leader,? and Biden responded: ?Mr. President, turn around and look behind you. No one is following.?

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wellll...OK!!!
Let`s belief factor---
GWB ---NOT!!!!!
Biden -- most definately!!!

This is way to funny!!!
Rove calling Biden a liar...rofl.....the last administration was built on falsehoods and lies.
All one has to do is look at all the troops who have been killed for what pray tell....defending a lie perpetrated by none other than -----DRUM ROLL please----- GWB!!!!

 

[Robor]

Pot. Kettle. Black.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
wellll...OK!!!
Let`s belief factor---
GWB ---NOT!!!!!
Biden -- most definately!!!

This is way to funny!!!
Rove calling Biden a liar...rofl.....the last administration was built on falsehoods and lies.
All one has to do is look at all the troops who have been killed for what pray tell....defending a lie perpetrated by none other than -----DRUM ROLL please----- GWB!!!!

OMG!!!!
You figured it out!!!!
Almost as good as GWB himslef!!!!!
Troll thread!!!!

 

[dphantom]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
All one has to do is look at all the troops who have been killed for what pray tell....defending a lie perpetrated by none other than -----DRUM ROLL please----- GWB!!!!

Then why is Obama still asking our troops to die? Shouldn't he have immediately withdrawn every single one if the war was nothing but a lie? Why is Obama expecting our troops to continue to die for a lie? Why is Obama asking for more money to fight a lie?

Because it is not a lie. The war in Afghanistan and Iraq is just. But very badly mismanaged and it continues to this day. Why we are in Iraq and Afghanistan is right and we need to see it thru.

As for Rove, good for him. It's about time Biden was called a liar. Hopefully, the same will be done to Franks, Dodd, Reid and others - liars all.

 

[SirStev0]

Oh Tobias, you old blowhard.

 

[jackschmittusa]

dphantom

"Then why is Obama still asking our troops to die? Shouldn't he have immediately withdrawn every single one if the war was nothing but a lie?"

That's the lamest argument I've ever heard. Maybe you could sell that logic to a room full of people with IQs of about room temperature.

The validity of the war has no basis in the conclusion that we have a moral (and perhaps by now, legal) obligation to make some effort to show that we've fixed what Bush broke.

 

[dphantom]

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
dphantom

"Then why is Obama still asking our troops to die? Shouldn't he have immediately withdrawn every single one if the war was nothing but a lie?"

That's the lamest argument I've ever heard. Maybe you could sell that logic to a room full of people with IQs of about room temperature.

The validity of the war has no basis in the conclusion that we have a moral (and perhaps by now, legal) obligation to make some effort to show that we've fixed what Bush broke.

I was making a ridiculous point to highlight the ridiculous statement made by the OP. Nothing more, nothing less. Anyone with an IQ above room temeperature could see that.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
All one has to do is look at all the troops who have been killed for what pray tell....defending a lie perpetrated by none other than -----DRUM ROLL please----- GWB!!!!

Then why is Obama still asking our troops to die? Shouldn't he have immediately withdrawn every single one if the war was nothing but a lie? Why is Obama expecting our troops to continue to die for a lie? Why is Obama asking for more money to fight a lie?

Because it is not a lie. The war in Afghanistan and Iraq is just. But very badly mismanaged and it continues to this day. Why we are in Iraq and Afghanistan is right and we need to see it thru.

As for Rove, good for him. It's about time Biden was called a liar. Hopefully, the same will be done to Franks, Dodd, Reid and others - liars all.

So your one of those who expected Obama to bring the troops back within 24hrs of his election.
Not understanding the consequences of an immediate withdrawal???

You just don`t immediately undo the damage that GWB and friends did to our nation, our reputation in the International community or for that matter the damage GWB and friends did to our way of life as Americans!

YES you are correct about Afghanistan being very real. That is why the emphasis is slowly being redirected towards Afghanistan.

So in your wisdam what should Obama had done concerning IRAQ once he was sworn in?
Immediately bring our troops home?
I believe he has stated a time table and his intents concerning IRAQ......

I understand that even one more life lost in IRAQ is way too many......but do you understand what would have happenned had Obama immediately withdrew all our troops?

NO the war in IRAQ is not justified at all!! IMO only those who hate or dis-like people from that part of the world actually believe the was in IRAQ is a just war!!

Peace!!

 

[SP33Demon]

Looks like Rove was feeling neglected after his epic fail of a campaign and needs some attention to sell his stupid book.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
dphantom

"Then why is Obama still asking our troops to die? Shouldn't he have immediately withdrawn every single one if the war was nothing but a lie?"

That's the lamest argument I've ever heard. Maybe you could sell that logic to a room full of people with IQs of about room temperature.

The validity of the war has no basis in the conclusion that we have a moral (and perhaps by now, legal) obligation to make some effort to show that we've fixed what Bush broke.

You should read his entire post.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
dphantom

"Then why is Obama still asking our troops to die? Shouldn't he have immediately withdrawn every single one if the war was nothing but a lie?"

That's the lamest argument I've ever heard. Maybe you could sell that logic to a room full of people with IQs of about room temperature.

The validity of the war has no basis in the conclusion that we have a moral (and perhaps by now, legal) obligation to make some effort to show that we've fixed what Bush broke.

I was making a ridiculous point to highlight the ridiculous statement made by the OP. Nothing more, nothing less. Anyone with an IQ above room temeperature could see that.

Nice try at mis-directing your comments....but please tell show me what statements were rediculous?
Perhaps this one -- the last administration was built on falsehoods and lies.

I am 100% correct...so you actually honestly do believe the "war" in IRAQ is just!!

Thats what you stated in all honesty and sincerity!!

 

[heyheybooboo]

Rove said:

"It's a made-up, fictional world. He ought to get out of it and get back to reality.?

If anyone is an expert in made-up fictional worlds and non-reality based administrations it would be kkKarl ....

 

[blackangst1]

Well although it IS a case of pot/kettle, it seems what Rove said is true-he lied. Bush, nor any of Bush's aides say these private meetings Biden is claiming he had never happened. But whatever.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
dphantom

"Then why is Obama still asking our troops to die? Shouldn't he have immediately withdrawn every single one if the war was nothing but a lie?"

That's the lamest argument I've ever heard. Maybe you could sell that logic to a room full of people with IQs of about room temperature.

The validity of the war has no basis in the conclusion that we have a moral (and perhaps by now, legal) obligation to make some effort to show that we've fixed what Bush broke.

You should read his entire post.

jackschmittusa did read my post -- he embraced what I was saying with this one statement -- The validity of the war has no basis in the conclusion that we have a moral (and perhaps by now, legal) obligation to make some effort to show that we've fixed what Bush broke.

He was commenting on the goofyness of dphantom post justifying the "war" in IRAQ by stating --- That's the lamest argument I've ever heard. Maybe you could sell that logic to a room full of people with IQs of about room temperature.

This is the mentality of a child who cannot possibly grasp the reasons why we cannot immediately withdraw, here is the statement by dphantom -- Then why is Obama still asking our troops to die? Shouldn't he have immediately withdrawn every single one if the war was nothing but a lie? Why is Obama expecting our troops to continue to die for a lie? Why is Obama asking for more money to fight a lie? --- lolol.....

 

[trenchfoot]

LOL, the Myth Master himself barfing up lies about someone else allegedly lying, and broadcast through the Mother of All Palaces of Liars even.

Ha-Haaaa!, it just don't get better than this.

"It didn't happen," Rove said. "It's his imagination. It's a made-up, fictional world. He ought to get out of it and get back to reality.?

I mean, just stand back and look at that scene. It's so hypocritically, pathetically and tragically hilarious.

Man-o-Man, I can't wait for him to get skewered and grilled ala shish kebab in some court of law for all the crimes he's planned and/or perped for/by himself and his benefactors.

edit - wow, JY, touched a raw nerve I see. :laugh:

 

[DealMonkey]

The former administration should show some decorum and respect and STFU.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Topic Title: Rove: Biden a 'blowhard' and 'liar'

Biden to Rove: "Pot, meet kettle."

Harvey to Rove: There's a dank cell and a waterboard with your name on it at Gitmo. :thumbsdown: :|

Originally posted by: dphantom

Then why is Obama still asking our troops to die? Shouldn't he have immediately withdrawn every single one if the war was nothing but a lie? Why is Obama expecting our troops to continue to die for a lie? Why is Obama asking for more money to fight a lie?

Who started the war of LIES that put our troops in Iraqm and how do you propose Obama should go about pulling all of them out immediately?

It can't be done overnight, it can't be done without a lot of logistical planning, and it can't be done without funding everything that must be done to accomplish getting our troops out of Iraq. Without that, a lot of American troops would die, more would be wounded, and we would be leaving Iraq with the physical and social destruction your thankfully EX-Traitor In Chief caused.

The war in Afghanistan and Iraq is just. But very badly mismanaged and it continues to this day. Why we are in Iraq and Afghanistan is right and we need to see it thru.

NO! Your grasp on reality continues to be... ummm... tenuous at best. :roll:

Going into Afghanistan was "just" because Al Qaeda is the group that attacked us on 9-11, and the Taliban who shielded them and gave them sanctuary, there. That's the war we should already have won. The Bushwhackos screwed that pooch by pulling the necessary resources, men and equipment, out of Afghanistan to fight their bullshit war of LIES in Iraq.

Invading Iraq was total bullshit from before day one. I could post a "macro" listing it, but if you don't already know them, you're beyond hopeless. :roll:

As for Rove, good for him.

As for Rove, FUCK THAT LYING PICE OF SHIT FROM NOW UNTIL FOREVER! :thumbsdown: :|

As of 04/10/09, 4,271 American troops have died, and tens of thousands more are wounded, scarred and disabled for life in your EX-Traitor In Chief's war of LIES.

That war has cost our nation trillions of dollars in current and future debt our great great grandchildren will still be paying long after we're gone from this planet. That's trillions piled on top of the further trillions the Bushwhackos squanderd with their failure of oversight of their wealthy Wall Street robber baron contributors.

It's about time Biden was called a liar. Hopefully, the same will be done to Franks, Dodd, Reid and others - liars all.

Exactly which lies by which of those you named were directly responsible for killing and wounding American troops in a war based entirely on LIES? :shocked: Links and quotes, or STFU!

 

[Lemon law]

None other than the Turd blossom himself, Karl Rove might be advised to keep a lower profile. If any new evidence surfaces, he might become a prime candidate for some real jail time for outing a CIA agent. And Rove is also up to his eyebrows regarding tampering with the justice department, and some of those stunts can carry jail time.

There is somewhat that old saying, "stick and stones may hurt my bones but words will never hurt me." And while ole Rove may get his feel good jollies for throwing harmless words around, he may be well advised that ending up in a jail cell is more in the sticks and stones retaliation class. And while Biden may suffer fools gladly, there are also some dems who would love to nail Karl's hide to the barn door. And Rove motivating people to go after him for violations of law may not be wise. There is that other old saying, " seek and ye shall find. "

And for that matter, " they that laugh last, laugh best. "

And I would laugh my head off to see ole Karl end up in the slammer.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
All one has to do is look at all the troops who have been killed for what pray tell....defending a lie perpetrated by none other than -----DRUM ROLL please----- GWB!!!!

Then why is Obama still asking our troops to die? Shouldn't he have immediately withdrawn every single one if the war was nothing but a lie? Why is Obama expecting our troops to continue to die for a lie? Why is Obama asking for more money to fight a lie?

Because it is not a lie. The war in Afghanistan and Iraq is just. But very badly mismanaged and it continues to this day. Why we are in Iraq and Afghanistan is right and we need to see it thru.

As for Rove, good for him. It's about time Biden was called a liar. Hopefully, the same will be done to Franks, Dodd, Reid and others - liars all.

So your one of those who expected Obama to bring the troops back within 24hrs of his election.
Not understanding the consequences of an immediate withdrawal???

You just don`t immediately undo the damage that GWB and friends did to our nation, our reputation in the International community or for that matter the damage GWB and friends did to our way of life as Americans!

YES you are correct about Afghanistan being very real. That is why the emphasis is slowly being redirected towards Afghanistan.

So in your wisdam what should Obama had done concerning IRAQ once he was sworn in?
Immediately bring our troops home?
I believe he has stated a time table and his intents concerning IRAQ......

I understand that even one more life lost in IRAQ is way too many......but do you understand what would have happenned had Obama immediately withdrew all our troops?

NO the war in IRAQ is not justified at all!! IMO only those who hate or dis-like people from that part of the world actually believe the was in IRAQ is a just war!!

Peace!!

Obama made alot of campain promises . I doubt he pulls off one. So liars in washington nothing new. All the traitors should be convicted and shot. Anyone who talked One world government and used the word WE. Has self convicted to conspirecy against the USA,. If your a world citizen go to that sovern place. But if your american and say WE shall change AMERICA into our vision . Is A self admitted traitor and deserves Rope only as their not worth value of bullet. FACT! When word we is used to describe New Government . That Is A conspirecy against Home land. Only traitors in public office would say such things . So WE have many many traitors in Washington . If you fail to act . Blame none as their hiding in plain site. If you can't see. Blame none when our world changes for the worse. Than its to late.

 

[MovingTarget]

Rove....on FOX......calling somebody else......a blowhard......a liar.......

*head asplode*

Did I wake up in bizzarro-land or something? One where unicorns fly around, Ford still has 90% marketshare, everybody runs linux, and/or cats can fly? WTF? I'd laugh, but it is just so....ironic....that it makes my head hurt too much.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: dphantom

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
All one has to do is look at all the troops who have been killed for what pray tell....defending a lie perpetrated by none other than -----DRUM ROLL please----- GWB!!!!

Then why is Obama still asking our troops to die? Shouldn't he have immediately withdrawn every single one if the war was nothing but a lie? Why is Obama expecting our troops to continue to die for a lie? Why is Obama asking for more money to fight a lie?

Because it is not a lie. The war in Afghanistan and Iraq is just. But very badly mismanaged and it continues to this day. Why we are in Iraq and Afghanistan is right and we need to see it thru.

As for Rove, good for him. It's about time Biden was called a liar. Hopefully, the same will be done to Franks, Dodd, Reid and others - liars all.

You mean the war in Afghanistan and the "Liberation" of Iraq?? WMB's and terrorists in Iraq were what??

 

[dphantom]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Exactly which lies by which of those you named were directly responsible for killing and wounding American troops in a war based entirely on LIES? :shocked: Links and quotes, or STFU!

Didn't Obama vote in favor of a 6 month withdrawal that Bush vetoed?

No I will not shut up. We do have a right to free speech and I will continue to exercise it regardless of your wish to shut up those with whom you disagree. I don't like your ideas at all yet I have never used and I hope never will use the vulgarity you do one a daily basis. No educated person need stoop so low to express themselves as you do. Your inability to articulate a position without invective, innuendo and slander are indicative of either a bigotry and hatred within you or simply a low intelligence. It matters not to me which is the case.

I will hold both parties to the same standard and will call out both dems and reps when I see the need. I did with bush on any number of occasions and will with Obama when I see the need.

 

[MagicConch]

I always thought Rove had a pretty thick skin. Until today I would have guessed he would find a Biden exaggeration amusing more than outrageous.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: dphantom

No I will not shut up. We do have a right to free speech and I will continue to exercise it regardless of your wish to shut up those with whom you disagree.

OK. You're welcome to exercise your option to remain a deluded, sycophantic Bushwhacko wingnut. You might save some money by checking Hot Deals for a special on aluminum foil beanies. :laugh:

Now, I'll ask again... exactly where are those "lies" from any of those you named that were directly responsible for killing and wounding thousands of American troops in a war based entirely on LIES?
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[dphantom]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: dphantom

No I will not shut up. We do have a right to free speech and I will continue to exercise it regardless of your wish to shut up those with whom you disagree.

OK. You're welcome to exercise your option to remain a deluded, sycophantic Bushwhacko wingnut. You might save some money by checking Hot Deals for a special on aluminum foil beanies. :laugh:

Now, I'll ask again... exactly where are those "lies" from any of those you named that were directly responsible for killing and wounding thousands of American troops in a war based entirely on LIES?
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Since you chose to edit my post by removing pertinent information, I am going to include the entire post.

"Didn't Obama vote in favor of a 6 month withdrawal that Bush vetoed?

No I will not shut up. We do have a right to free speech and I will continue to exercise it regardless of your wish to shut up those with whom you disagree. I don't like your ideas at all yet I have never used and I hope never will use the vulgarity you do one a daily basis. No educated person need stoop so low to express themselves as you do. Your inability to articulate a position without invective, innuendo and slander are indicative of either a bigotry and hatred within you or simply a low intelligence. It matters not to me which is the case.

I will hold both parties to the same standard and will call out both dems and reps when I see the need. I did with bush on any number of occasions and will with Obama when I see the need."

And to set the record straight, I did not say those named lied about Iraq nor did Bush lie. Bush failed in ohter ways. You were the one who brought that up. But those I named have lied about their complicity in the financial situation and are not being held accountable. Biden lied about his meeting with Bush and Rove called him on it.

My point will is that it is about time anyone lying be called for what it is. Dem or rep.