Actually I would have to disagree with you on this point. I believe that a white person growing up in a black neighborhood would have experienced societal racism. For me it's about being accepted within your peers and a white person in this situation would have been in a similar position as I was when I was growing up.
Actually I would have to disagree with you on this point. I believe that a white person growing up in a black neighborhood would have experienced societal racism. For me it's about being accepted within your peers and a white person in this situation would have been in a similar position as I was when I was growing up.
It's not racist. Just as saying "ook atee book atee boo thank you come again" in a thick asian indian accent is not racist towards asian indians
I'm white and I understand what some of the Asian people are saying here.
We are a very big majority in most of the country so its an entirely different world for us.
I'm also amused at this "entitled" bullsh**, Asians are some of the hardest working people in America. If anything its the little emo white kids that are the entitled ones.
We are a very big majority in most of the country so its an entirely different world for us.
I'm also amused at this "entitled" bullsh**, Asians are some of the hardest working people in America. If anything its the little emo white kids that are the entitled ones.
That would be better than cringing and wilting over in agony every time you hear something that offends you.
If people took the effect out of racist remarks, they'd lose their effectiveness and racism would go away. But as it is now with total pansies getting worked into a tantrum every time someone uses such a remark, it's a very useful tool for someone looking to hurt someone else.
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lol I got a chuckle out of that video.
far from racist too.
that's just like when a black comedian does his whiteman impression and talks all high of himself and all sophisticated and slowly, like the rich people from the movie Titanic (thats the only example I could think of at this moment).
some people are too freaking sensitive.
far from racist too.
that's just like when a black comedian does his whiteman impression and talks all high of himself and all sophisticated and slowly, like the rich people from the movie Titanic (thats the only example I could think of at this moment).
some people are too freaking sensitive.
I think the issue here is that she did a BAD impression of a Chinese person. There are comedians who do good ones, like Russel Peters. He even tells the audience that it's a Cantonese impression. Rosie is just saying "ching chong ching chong", which to me comes off as racist. It's like doing an impression of a black person and saying "watermelon, fried chicken, bling bling".
LOL, so you're a white guy trying to fight someone else's crusade.
I'm willing to bet that you're one of those little emo white kids that's on a mission to solve the world's injustices and take down the man.
Good luck with that, son.
Ching Chong Chinaman sitting on a fence
Trying to make a dollar out of fifteen cents.
Along came a choo-choo train,
Knocked him in the cuckoo-brain,
And that was the end of the fifteen cents.
Ching Chong, Chinaman,
Sitting on a wall.
Along came a white man,
And chopped his head off.
"A major factor influencing race relations in America today, Lee said, is that people of non-European ancestry are often required to give up much if not all of their heritage, language and culture -- an essential part of their personalities -- when they arrive in America.
The antidote to racism within truly free societies is to seek inclusion of all ethnic groups and to foster respect and understanding of all peoples, Lee said. American society has a long way to go in this regard, he said, adding that he still remembers being taunted in the first grade when other children would call him "Ching Chong Chinaman."
A number of Asian Americans in the audience raised their hands when Lee asked if anyone in the room remembered similar treatment when they were children.
"The sad thing is that it is still happening today in the year 2001," Lee said. "That song, 'Ching Chong Chinaman,' is on every playground in America.
"We love this country and what it means, but there are times when we're left out," he concluded."
Yes. Read my very first post. I said that I know that it was not Rosie's intent to make fun of asians and that is why I was not offended nor considered it racist. I merely stated that whenever I hear "Ching chong ching chong" it makes me cringe a little.
I don't cringe when the accent is well done or if those were real Chinese words being spoken (but possibly mangled). Mya Rudolph (in Saturday Night Light) sometimes plays a Japanese girl and I think her accent is well done (and comes across as very cute). When Amy Poeler did Yoko Ono, I thought it was hilarious. I don't cringe when I see some effort or talent being used to imitate.
But for some reason, I cringe if the imitation is really bad and use obviously fake words like "ching chong ching chong". I think most blacks won't get offended when that Saturday Night Live guy (who is white and in makeup) imitates Jesse Jackson. But if a white guy dresses up in tar black face to imitate a slave, they might get uncomfortable.
Emo white kids trying to solve something? Wow wouldn't we all be better off if that was true...
Its really not a crusade its just trying to understand someone elses point of view, maybe thats a foreign concept to you.
Basically what it's coming down to is that you can't make jokes at anyone else's expense if you're white. Everyone else can do it, though. It's a double standard.
1. I am not in any way responsible for injustices cause to anyone else's people before I was born. You can't blame that on me, so don't try to justify your double standard (which really isn't fair to me) saying that you're "getting me back". If you want to be racist, then fine, just don't try to say yours is justified while mine is not.
2. I do not want people to spill out their baggage on me as if I am responsible.
1. I am not in any way responsible for injustices cause to anyone else's people before I was born. You can't blame that on me, so don't try to justify your double standard (which really isn't fair to me) saying that you're "getting me back". If you want to be racist, then fine, just don't try to say yours is justified while mine is not.
2. I do not want people to spill out their baggage on me as if I am responsible.
Heh, interesting point of view. Do nothing and the bad thing will just go away. Ignore the implications of racism and racism will just fade? So, as an example, those black men at the comedy club should've laughed at Kramer's remarks or hell, make it even less effective by claiming that his remarks were right on the money?
I will agree with you that Rosie's impersonation was not racist though stereotypical. Two situations that sit on the same gray line.
Actually, maybe it's guys like you who should take it easy. Why does it upset you so much to know that some asians might cringe a little or feel uncomfortable when they see someone imitating Chinese by saing "Ching chong ching chong"?
OMG, you just used the word "foreign", meaning "strange or unfamiliar". That offends foreigners. It's as if you're saying that foreigners are strange.
Damn xenophobe.
I don't know what's funnier, the fact that you are belittling someone for beliefs in equality or the fact that you enjoy creating segregation right off the bat that he's fighting someone else's crusade. I'm sorry you didn't get the memo that racism is everyone's problem, not one race's or anothers'.
It irritates me because I'm sick of everyone playing the race card CONSTANTLY and trying to justify any inferiority complexes that they might have.
Just stop crying.
It's very apparent that you have deep-rooted emotional issues regarding your race. That is a problem that either a) you must deal with, or b) the world must change to accomodate your delicate feelings.
I'm betting on A.
I bet if you were living in China and some Chinese celebrity mocked German or Latin or something giving European culture no respect at all, you would be the first person crying foul.
Hey, I'm not the one complaining about what Rosie said. I'm just telling the sobbing little punks to shut up.
I suggest you do the same.
But you're whining/complaining about other people complaining. Pot/Kettle/Black.
And besides... are we really complaining? Just a brief scan reveals that most here don't think it was racist. Myself included. But some just added the comment that some aspects of it made us uncomfortable.
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You apparently misread my post, or misunderstand the meaning of inherent or both.
Inherent means you are born with it. You are not born with a language or culture. Both are learned. Therefore what Rosie did was biased against culture, not race.
So you kind of agreed with me.
The only person who has an inferiority complex is you. You call people emo white kids cursading other people's causes. All you do is name call without any justification outside of I'm tired of people being oversensitive. You are so threatened that people are concerned about the equality of general mankind that you have to try to belittle them to feel better. It's really quite sad and can really only be responded by the nice internet terminology of stop stroking your "massive" e-peen you tough guy you. Shame it has to resort to name calling but I guess that's all you can respond to.
I have no issues with my race because I've grown up in a extremely diverse family. I have a white stepfather (and I'm very close with him and his family). I have Brazilian cousins. My parents are immigrants. Some of my closest friends are Persians. So, why don't you check your baggage at the door as you so poetically stated and learn to understand that the world consists of point of views, not just your point of view.
You're telling me to deal with my emotional issues? What emotional issues have I shown outside of concern that there's a fine line between being too politcally correct and being careless with diversity.
????
Why the hell would I care if some Chinese celebrity mocked German culture?
I wouldn't be the first person crying foul if some Chinese celebrity mocked me directly. Hell, I'm convinced that there are fragile enough people out there that someone else would get offended that the celebrity is mocking me, long before I got offended.
In short, I'm not a pansy. I'm a man.
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