Roommate is pissing me off! *UPDATE!* Initial issues (beef) revised on page 4...

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: deftron
NightFlyerGTI, you kinda seem like the a-hole here.
You're coming off as an antisocial person thats just jealous of your roomate.
Why are you being so stingy with your stuff ?
If your roomate had houseguests over for 4 days, I assume
they are people from out of town.
Yes, they are going to eat while at your house.
They also probably didnt know who bought the food.
You need to be more hospitable.
I'm sure you roomate would have payed you back
if you didnt overreact like you did.

The only thing foodwise that has really been off
limits between me and my roomates is someone elses beer.

And the crap about not using "your" TV.
Why is it in the living room ? If you dont want anyone
to use it or want control over it at all times
then put it in your room. I'm sure you use some things of your roomates
Probably furniture or dishes or whatever. Does he freak out ?

The only valid complaints I really see are the
phlegm coughing (thats prety gross, and I'd call someone out on it... tell him
to go in the bathroom or something), and the arranging you to give his friends a
ride without telling you.

About the loud TV while you were trying to sleep... did you ask them to
turn it down ? I'm sure they would have if they knew it was keeping you up.

You cant let all these little annoyances go by without saying something at the time.
They will build up and you explode like you are doing.

You want to hear about bad roomates? I've only had really bad roomates one time, and
thats because they were heroin addicts. You problems are nothing compared to what mine
were at that time. Consider yourself lucky

Amen. I just read the WHOLE thread (I didn't want to get a "Read the entire thread before you start shooting your mouth off and telling people to grow up. "). Originally it sounded like NightFlyerGTI had a legitimate beef with the roomate. But the longer I read the thread, and the more I saw his responses to people who disagreed with him, the more my assholeOmeter went up.

The best part (well, next to the itemized list for the whopping $20) was the unenforcable list of:

GROUND RULES - EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY ::

- No more guests after midnight if people are sleeping
or trying to study
- No more guests overnight w/out permission
*previous guests not welcome back again
*no females allowed overnight

Sound like he's just mad because the roomate gets laid and he doesn't. I suggest if he wants to implement 'rules' like that, he should buy a place and be a landlord, not a roomate.

Bill

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

You guys sure would make a-hole roomates if you are arguing with Nightflyer's stance. Now i wouldn't go as far as he did, but i would be pissed as hell to have a roomate like that. I would never put up with that crap, and nobody should. There is a thing called human decency, and you guys need to learn it. There are some people you shouldn't rub the wrong way, and being that his roomate knows what ticks him off and continues to do it is downright uncalled for. And you guys are trying to say nightflyer is the a-hole?? You guys are pathetic.

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
You guys sure would make a-hole roomates if you are arguing with Nightflyer's stance. Now i wouldn't go as far as he did, but i would be pissed as hell to have a roomate like that. I would never put up with that crap, and nobody should. There is a thing called human decency, and you guys need to learn it. There are some people you shouldn't rub the wrong way, and being that his roomate knows what ticks him off and continues to do it is downright uncalled for. And you guys are trying to say nightflyer is the a-hole?? You guys are pathetic.

You have a right to your opinion, but you've seen four pages of absolutely one side to the story. Usually, I've found, there are two sides. And based on the posters attacks on people who disagree with him, he might not be the easiest person to live with. You'll recall in the thread the 'Cool Roomate' doesn't seem to have any problem with 'Bitch Roomate' and only agreed to breakup a fight it 'Bitch Roomate' was dumb enough to start one.

Wouldn't you think if this guy was as terrible as the poster wants you to think that 'Cool Roomate' would also be bothered by him? Ponder that for a few minutes.

Bill

 

[BD2003]

He's not being an asshole, he's being a room nazi. They are opposites, and both are annoying in their own ways.

Nobody can live with assholes, and the room nazi cant live with anyone.

When you put both an asshole and a room nazi in the same room, some sort of molecular chain reaction occurs and the outcome is always very very bad. And always exactly the same. Both people think theyre in the right, and that makes both of them equally wrong.

The bottom line is, these are two people who should NOT be roomates under any circumstances.

Typical characteristics


Room Nazis:
- Has to be in bed by 11pm, and demands that all other people in the room be absolutely quiet, even if its 1 against 5.
- Will freak out when placed near a frat boy or anyone with a drink or blunt in his/her hand.
- Allergic to smoke of any kind, tends to make loud noises and secrete water from eyes.
- Absolutely intolerant of anyone unlike him, looks down on just about everyone.
- Will absolutely lose their mind if someone touches any of their stuff without written consent, even if they put it in the living room
- Will do just about any and everything for quiet, including crying to RAs, RHDs etc...
- Tend to blame every single problem and all stress in their entire life on their "horrible" roomates.
- Believes totally and absolutely in their rightness at all times, through a holier than thou attitude.

Assholes:
- Loud and irritating, even after you ask them to quiet down
- Uses your stuff constantly, usually more than you, totally preventing you from using it.
- Has no consideration for anyone but themselves
- Will be nice to you only when they need you for something
- Uses your FRIDGE! Mortal sin!!!
- Believes totally and absolutely in their rightness at all times, through their arrogance.

Most people are normal people. If you ask them to quiet down, they will. But be reasonable about it. If you ask them not to touch your stuff, they wont, but theres no reason to be a total bastard about it.

And I dont care who owns it, if its in the living room, ANYONE can use it. The living room is the COMMON room, and that means you can absolutely own no part of it whatsoever.

 

[smp]

C: "I keep lots of people close for this reason and it has paid off in dividends already. I have no beef with or grudges against anyone, nor does anyone else I know of have it with me. <starts to get slightly more agressive> YOU are the first person I have held a grudge against since Derrick Davis back in the 4th grade- well over a decade ago. I thought about staying a 'nice guy' and letting you use stuff to keep you as a node in my 'people network', but then I realized you don't have a friggin thing to offer me in life. You are useless in my personal network of folks! <insert computer nerd bottleneck analogies here if you wish> So on that note, I don't have any reason to not come down on you and give you a piece of my mind. I'd like to start off saying that you've pissed me off one too many times, mainly starting with your guests (an African American guy and girl, btw- about 18 years old I suppose) you brought here last week...."

Dude you sound like a rasict and I wouldn't want to live with you either. I read through three pages of your whiny sh!t and I couldn't read anymore. Networking? Are you serious? The only reason you have friends is so you can benefit from it?

Hmm, ok. Guess he's not overtly upset. I'll keep this stable and hope he'll reason with us tomorrow, if we're still having a meeting. On the African American reference 2 posts up, I apologize for making it sound like there was something wrong with it. Absolutely not, just trying to be descriptive, and I'm known for being overly descriptive at times I suppose. I'm certainly against the evil that is racism as much as anyone is, as anyone should be. I've found it different though, that he's caucasian and 90% of the friends he brings over are African American. It's not that which I'm trying to point out, but they call him 'White Mike', which annoys me. Phone rings, "Is white Mike there?" "Is whitey there?" I mean, wtf. I don't deal with the ignorance of assumed knowledge. I don't know who this 'whitey' is and will hang up. This guy really fits his idol, Eminem, to a 'T'. Did I mention that I hate Eminem? This post was probably unneecessary... sorry.

Racism doesn't mean that you go out and burn crosses on people's lawns. Rasicm is something that is built into your subconcious mind .. "Us and Them" .. and no matter what you say to try to make yourself appear to not be a racist.. the fact remains that you did point out "african american" in your original rant and it shows fear.

Why does it bother you that his friends call him white mike? I think that's pretty funny and socially progressive.

I'm sorry if I'm coming off real harsh, but it really seems like you are the one that doesn't have "networking skills" ... this guy is different than you and you don't know how to communicate with him .. most people would just be friendly and make friends, because friends would try harder to please one another. If this guy was your friend, he'd probably be considerate to you. You are living together after all. Of course, I know you're probably pissed at me, but whatever, that's my take on this thread.

 

[smp]

Originally posted by: BD2003
He's not being an asshole, he's being a room nazi. They are opposites, and both are annoying in their own ways. Nobody can live with assholes, and the room nazi cant live with anyone. When you put both an asshole and a room nazi in the same room, some sort of molecular chain reaction occurs and the outcome is always very very bad. And always exactly the same. Both people think theyre in the right, and that makes both of them equally wrong. The bottom line is, these are two people who should NOT be roomates under any circumstances. Typical characteristics Room Nazis: - Has to be in bed by 11pm, and demands that all other people in the room be absolutely quiet, even if its 1 against 5. - Will freak out when placed near a frat boy or anyone with a drink or blunt in his/her hand. - Allergic to smoke of any kind, tends to make loud noises and secrete water from eyes. - Absolutely intolerant of anyone unlike him, looks down on just about everyone. - Will absolutely lose their mind if someone touches any of their stuff without written consent, even if they put it in the living room - Will do just about any and everything for quiet, including crying to RAs, RHDs etc... - Tend to blame every single problem and all stress in their entire life on their "horrible" roomates. - Believes totally and absolutely in their rightness at all times, through a holier than thou attitude. Assholes: - Loud and irritating, even after you ask them to quiet down - Uses your stuff constantly, usually more than you, totally preventing you from using it. - Has no consideration for anyone but themselves - Will be nice to you only when they need you for something - Uses your FRIDGE! Mortal sin!!! - Believes totally and absolutely in their rightness at all times, through their arrogance. Most people are normal people. If you ask them to quiet down, they will. But be reasonable about it. If you ask them not to touch your stuff, they wont, but theres no reason to be a total bastard about it. And I dont care who owns it, if its in the living room, ANYONE can use it. The living room is the COMMON room, and that means you can absolutely own no part of it whatsoever.

 

[Therapist928]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
You guys sure would make a-hole roomates if you are arguing with Nightflyer's stance. Now i wouldn't go as far as he did, but i would be pissed as hell to have a roomate like that. I would never put up with that crap, and nobody should. There is a thing called human decency, and you guys need to learn it. There are some people you shouldn't rub the wrong way, and being that his roomate knows what ticks him off and continues to do it is downright uncalled for. And you guys are trying to say nightflyer is the a-hole?? You guys are pathetic.

Ahem.
Bsobel and BD2003 made excellent points. I only have this more to say:

Is it a requirement of a fight to have only one a-hole? An important part of making a decision on who's fault it was lies in listening to both sides. You've only heard one, but you're willing to assume that's the only side, whereas we have the intelligence to look past his rhetoric and see that this particular fight involves two a-holes, not just one.
Because we can do this, we're the ones that are humanly decent. I already said I could sympathize with him, but just because I saw that there wasn't only one side, I was attacked. Maybe you should learn to open your eyes and not take for granted what people tell you; don't believe everything you hear. God forbid one day you should be a parent and have to settle a fight between your two kids - what will you do? Listen only to the one that comes to you first? How about the one who whines the loudest?

The clues as to NightFlyer's own faults in this whole dilemma are all over the place in this thread. Read more carefully.

 

[Alex]

dude i totally sympathise with ya but

no females allowed overnight

...???? :Q :Q isnt that a lil exagerated? i mean eminem here will sure wanna bring some 'bitches' over in order to 'get freaky' and obtain poon.. am i right or am i right? so its like no sex in the room? cmon dude...

i mean like what if ya wanna bring over some hot chick but ya cant cuz of the rule... kinda makes ya wonder, eh?

 

[Alex]

neways keep us updated

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