Ron Paul vs PIRATES, Thinking outside the box

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: yllus

Solid plan, Mr. Paul. Apparently unlike most of you, I initially thought the world of the guy, and every day now think a little less of him. This is yet another display of pure stupidity and ignorance.

i, too, once thought ron paul had something to offer.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

This is what you said.

"You are a fool. The Navy is not the Army. You know nothing of the ways of war. Why don't you try thinking a little before you post. "


So, what is the difference? How do you plan to mitigate the human emotion of greed when it comes down to taking any actions needed to gain material wealth? How do you police and contractors in a way sufficient to adhere to international law?

You have answered none of the core problems when dealing with mercenaries.

Amazing. You really don't get it do you? You have tunnel vision. That is why you are a fool.

Then explain it to me.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig
This is brilliant. Using private citizens to take care of the pirate problem is an excellent, and cost effective strategy. It also keeps the media out of the picture, which will allow the pirates to be slaughtered like dogs. Even though the US military is heavily armed, the pirates don't fear them like they should. The pirates *will* fear private citizens, who are heavily armed and, most importantly, they will be effectively accountable to no one. No media = tortured and slaughtered pirates. If this plan is enacted, the fish stocks in the waters off Somalia will be well fed. Well fed indeed.

best argument against the op yet.

 

[theflyingpig]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

This is what you said.

"You are a fool. The Navy is not the Army. You know nothing of the ways of war. Why don't you try thinking a little before you post. "


So, what is the difference? How do you plan to mitigate the human emotion of greed when it comes down to taking any actions needed to gain material wealth? How do you police and contractors in a way sufficient to adhere to international law?

You have answered none of the core problems when dealing with mercenaries.

Amazing. You really don't get it do you? You have tunnel vision. That is why you are a fool.

Then explain it to me.

I answered your question before you even asked it. Yet another reason why you are a fool.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Thump553
Letters of marque essentially created government sanctioned pirates. For example, letters issued by England would authorize attacks on French ships. It didn't matter what type of ship the French ship was or what it was doing.

Somalia pirates frequently disguise themselves as ordinary fishermen. Does Paul contemplate authorizing attacks on all Somalia boats and ships, regardless of what they are doing? Does he want the US to essentially declare war on Somalia?

What is the incentive to the privateers here? Grab a speedboat and a couple of guns?

These things faded away two centuries ago for lots of valid reasons. I'd like to see some input from an international law expert and a maritime law expert as to any validity of Paul's plan. I have grave doubts about it.

This problem will only be solved when Somalia gets a functioning government and when pirating is no longer a financially viable business for them (right now it is about the only way to make money in Somalia). I'd like to see Saudi Arabia and its rich neighbors pony up some of the cash to do so-Somalia is their neighbor and fellow Muslim state.

It's almost like Ron Paul's idea was quite likely a poorly thought out one, based on a lack of understanding of the consequences of his actions.

Oh wait, that's like pretty much every single other one of Ron Paul's ideas.

Kind of like every one of your idiotic posts.

If Somalians realyl wanted a functioning government they'd set one up. Sure as shit, if the Us tried to help them and institute a government and tried to protect it soemone would scream that we are empire building and only in it for ourselves. Most likely you and your like.
Ron Paul actually has ideas and plans. You fell for Hope and Change.
You know, if Somalis found out that getting killd for being a pirate was in their future they would look for new ways of making a living.
The problem in Somalia is not going to be fixed by instituting a new government, that entire continent needs a reboot.

you might have missed it, but the US and in particular france have been sending lots of pirates to their graves.

Furthermore, setting up a functioning state in the middle of a situation like somalia is borderline impossible.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig
This is brilliant. Using private citizens to take care of the pirate problem is an excellent, and cost effective strategy. It also keeps the media out of the picture, which will allow the pirates to be slaughtered like dogs. Even though the US military is heavily armed, the pirates don't fear them like they should. The pirates *will* fear private citizens, who are heavily armed and, most importantly, they will be effectively accountable to no one. No media = tortured and slaughtered pirates. If this plan is enacted, the fish stocks in the waters off Somalia will be well fed. Well fed indeed.

"If they didn't want to look like pirates, they wouldn't have been born brown. Killing innocent people is cool."

Always nice to hear the largest moron's possible opinion on things, it makes things everyone else says that much more reasonable.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

This is what you said.

"You are a fool. The Navy is not the Army. You know nothing of the ways of war. Why don't you try thinking a little before you post. "


So, what is the difference? How do you plan to mitigate the human emotion of greed when it comes down to taking any actions needed to gain material wealth? How do you police and contractors in a way sufficient to adhere to international law?

You have answered none of the core problems when dealing with mercenaries.

Amazing. You really don't get it do you? You have tunnel vision. That is why you are a fool.

Then explain it to me.

I answered your question before you even asked it. Yet another reason why you are a fool.

lol

you're pretty bad at this posting thing.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

This is what you said.

"You are a fool. The Navy is not the Army. You know nothing of the ways of war. Why don't you try thinking a little before you post. "


So, what is the difference? How do you plan to mitigate the human emotion of greed when it comes down to taking any actions needed to gain material wealth? How do you police and contractors in a way sufficient to adhere to international law?

You have answered none of the core problems when dealing with mercenaries.

Amazing. You really don't get it do you? You have tunnel vision. That is why you are a fool.

Then explain it to me.

I answered your question before you even asked it. Yet another reason why you are a fool.

Are you 5?

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

This is what you said.

"You are a fool. The Navy is not the Army. You know nothing of the ways of war. Why don't you try thinking a little before you post. "


So, what is the difference? How do you plan to mitigate the human emotion of greed when it comes down to taking any actions needed to gain material wealth? How do you police and contractors in a way sufficient to adhere to international law?

You have answered none of the core problems when dealing with mercenaries.

Amazing. You really don't get it do you? You have tunnel vision. That is why you are a fool.

Then explain it to me.

I answered your question before you even asked it. Yet another reason why you are a fool.

lol

you're pretty bad at this posting thing.

He may need to sign back onto AOL. His grandmother took the training wheels off the computer last week, I think she needs to put them back on.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Thump553
Letters of marque essentially created government sanctioned pirates. For example, letters issued by England would authorize attacks on French ships. It didn't matter what type of ship the French ship was or what it was doing.

Somalia pirates frequently disguise themselves as ordinary fishermen. Does Paul contemplate authorizing attacks on all Somalia boats and ships, regardless of what they are doing? Does he want the US to essentially declare war on Somalia?

What is the incentive to the privateers here? Grab a speedboat and a couple of guns?

These things faded away two centuries ago for lots of valid reasons. I'd like to see some input from an international law expert and a maritime law expert as to any validity of Paul's plan. I have grave doubts about it.

This problem will only be solved when Somalia gets a functioning government and when pirating is no longer a financially viable business for them (right now it is about the only way to make money in Somalia). I'd like to see Saudi Arabia and its rich neighbors pony up some of the cash to do so-Somalia is their neighbor and fellow Muslim state.

You really are crazy if you think there are any international law expert and a maritime law experts on these forums....sheese the average age on these forums is.......

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: theflyingpig
This is brilliant. Using private citizens to take care of the pirate problem is an excellent, and cost effective strategy. It also keeps the media out of the picture, which will allow the pirates to be slaughtered like dogs. Even though the US military is heavily armed, the pirates don't fear them like they should. The pirates *will* fear private citizens, who are heavily armed and, most importantly, they will be effectively accountable to no one. No media = tortured and slaughtered pirates. If this plan is enacted, the fish stocks in the waters off Somalia will be well fed. Well fed indeed.

Yeah, blackwater was such a great, "cost saving" adventure, eh? They cost 5x as much as a soldier, can't be ordered around, have no tie back to the US with regards to the Code of Military Justice, and like baboons on a crack rage while in Iraq.

You are a fool. The Navy is not the Army. You know nothing of the ways of war. Why don't you try thinking a little before you post.

By all means tell me what you think the navy is like, and how it is different than the army. How much time have you spent in the fleet?

 

[theflyingpig]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

This is what you said.

"You are a fool. The Navy is not the Army. You know nothing of the ways of war. Why don't you try thinking a little before you post. "


So, what is the difference? How do you plan to mitigate the human emotion of greed when it comes down to taking any actions needed to gain material wealth? How do you police and contractors in a way sufficient to adhere to international law?

You have answered none of the core problems when dealing with mercenaries.

Amazing. You really don't get it do you? You have tunnel vision. That is why you are a fool.

Then explain it to me.

I answered your question before you even asked it. Yet another reason why you are a fool.

lol

you're pretty bad at this posting thing.

You're pretty bad at this reading thing.

 

[theflyingpig]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Are you 5?

No, but I can tell you read at that level.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Kind of like every one of your idiotic posts.

If Somalians realyl wanted a functioning government they'd set one up. Sure as shit, if the Us tried to help them and institute a government and tried to protect it soemone would scream that we are empire building and only in it for ourselves. Most likely you and your like.
Ron Paul actually has ideas and plans. You fell for Hope and Change.
You know, if Somalis found out that getting killd for being a pirate was in their future they would look for new ways of making a living.
The problem in Somalia is not going to be fixed by instituting a new government, that entire continent needs a reboot.

Haha. 'if people wanted to have a great society they would make one'.

Ron Paul most certainly has ideas. They're just really really stupid ideas.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Are you 5?

No, but I can tell you read at that level.

Wow, you're coming close to setting a new low for pathetic posting at ATPN. Do you realize how hard that is to do?

 

[theflyingpig]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
By all means tell me what you think the navy is like, and how it is different than the army. How much time have you spent in the fleet?

I already addressed this issue. Read the thread.

 

[theflyingpig]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Wow, you're coming close to setting a new low for pathetic posting at ATPN. Do you realize how hard that is to do?

That's nice.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: eskimospy
By all means tell me what you think the navy is like, and how it is different than the army. How much time have you spent in the fleet?

I already addressed this issue. Read the thread.

No you haven't. You don't appear to know shit about the navy. I'll ask you again, since you're such an expert on the matter, how much time have you spent in the fleet?

 

[theflyingpig]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: eskimospy
By all means tell me what you think the navy is like, and how it is different than the army. How much time have you spent in the fleet?

I already addressed this issue. Read the thread.

No you haven't. You don't appear to know shit about the navy. I'll ask you again, since you're such an expert on the matter, how much time have you spent in the fleet?

The issue was addressed, you just didn't read the thread like I told you to.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: eskimospy
By all means tell me what you think the navy is like, and how it is different than the army. How much time have you spent in the fleet?

I already addressed this issue. Read the thread.

No you haven't. You don't appear to know shit about the navy. I'll ask you again, since you're such an expert on the matter, how much time have you spent in the fleet?

The issue was addressed, you just didn't read the thread like I told you to.

I've read the entire thread, a good portion of which is other people calling you out for not knowing shit either. This doesn't surprise me, because you're arguing like a 12 year old. You're probably not old enough to understand the world yet.

 

[theflyingpig]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
I've read the entire thread

Good, you have the answer to your question then.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Kind of like every one of your idiotic posts.

If Somalians realyl wanted a functioning government they'd set one up. Sure as shit, if the Us tried to help them and institute a government and tried to protect it soemone would scream that we are empire building and only in it for ourselves. Most likely you and your like.
Ron Paul actually has ideas and plans. You fell for Hope and Change.
You know, if Somalis found out that getting killd for being a pirate was in their future they would look for new ways of making a living.
The problem in Somalia is not going to be fixed by instituting a new government, that entire continent needs a reboot.

Haha. 'if people wanted to have a great society they would make one'.

Ron Paul most certainly has ideas. They're just really really stupid ideas.

This is why I name them "libertopians", because they live in a world where humans are perfect and completely logical, where milk and honey flow from the rivers and the "free market" will provide everything while denying nothing, where men are men and women are women and the world wants for nothing.

In other words, they live in a fucking utopian vacuum.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: eskimospy
I've read the entire thread

Good, you have the answer to your question then.

Nope, sure don't. I'll be waiting in case you decide to act like an adult and defend the ridiculously stupid shit you wrote.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
This is why I name them "libertopians", because they live in a world where humans are perfect and completely logical, where milk and honey flow from the rivers and the "free market" will provide everything while denying nothing, where men are men and women are women and the world wants for nothing.

In other words, they live in a fucking utopian vacuum.

Yet another straw man from LK.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

This is why I name them "libertopians", because they live in a world where humans are perfect and completely logical, where milk and honey flow from the rivers and the "free market" will provide everything while denying nothing, where men are men and women are women and the world wants for nothing.

In other words, they live in a fucking utopian vacuum.

And yet foolish people like you believe that if only there were another law, we'd have utopia.

We have millions of laws and we aren't there yet. So maybe we just need one more...