Ron Paul votes to squish small animals

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Lifer
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What's truly sad is that you don't understand why. You're ignorance is astounding.

Slow your roll there welfare case. There really doesn't seem to be anything unconstitutional about this, not that you'd be able to point out otherwise.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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Slow your roll there welfare case. There really doesn't seem to be anything unconstitutional about this, not that you'd be able to point out otherwise.

Your idea of the constitution permits the banning of videos, books, and other such things?
 

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Does the bill include any films involving how most of us get our meat at the grocery store?
Seriously, though, there are several studies that show that it's very common for homocidal maniac serial killers to have abused animals as children. Regulate it like video games or X-rated movies to keep young impressionable minds from thinking that it is acceptable behavior. I'm really torn on this though because I hate any form of censorship.
 

BoberFett

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Slow your roll there welfare case. There really doesn't seem to be anything unconstitutional about this, not that you'd be able to point out otherwise.

Keep paying your taxes, bitch. I'm enjoying my extended paid vacation.
 

Moonbeam

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Oh come on. He's one of those self made men.

Of all the many things I've heard and read in a lifetime, there is one that often pops into mind for some reason I can't determine:

There once was a powerful wrestler who died in a match, not knowing it could happen to him.
 

Moonbeam

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You're my bitch too. Take it, bitch.

Did you forget? I'm the one who's giving. You are the one on the take. And you are most welcome. You get that all confused because of pride or shall we just call it ego since real organic pride is a good thing and natural.
 

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Lifer
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Welcome? I never thanked you. There's no need to thank bitches. Bitches do whatever you tell them to. And you're my bitch.

That's the true beauty of democracy. 49.9999% of the population is 50.0001% of the population's bitches.
 

Kappo

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Such videos are evidence of a crime. It should be illegal to profit from the crime. Pretty simple logic to me.

Suggesting that slaughterhouse video used for reporting purposes falls into this category is silly since it depicts no crime.

And why did this pass when there are so many other pressing issues? Because the Republicans have been impeding every thing else of importance.

So when someone makes a documentary exposing dog breeders killing puppies, the guy has to produce, distribute and advertise for free. And cannot charge for his work.

I hope your democratic agenda of keeping people stupid so they will keep voting your way works out for you.
 

Craig234

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Animal abuse is illegal, probably on the state level. I don't really see why we need a federal law stating that if you record and publish that same abuse, you break another law.

Same reason as child porn is illegal.

Some things society wants to stop, it's much more effective to ban side things because of enforcibility.

If you can help dry up the market for the images to the sick customers who pay for the industry to make them, you can reduce the abuses from happening.

It's a little like cities with laws against drug paraphenilia.

The thing is to draw the line short of where legitimate rights are infringed. Should it be illegal for someone to publish an article saying they used drugs and enjoyed it? No.

I started out to say I was in favor of this law, but somehow the line has to be drawn short of banning people who public documentary evidence for political reasons on the topic.

I'm not sure how exactly that can be worded, and if they don't find the wording, they need to err on the side of more free speech than less and concentrate on the abusers.
 

Jaskalas

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You mean the way we've had it with kiddy porn? And yes, it does.

The vote against this law is a reprimand on our modern form of government. It is the correct choice, though I'm certain you've been raised to find it unfamiliar and foreign. This nation has fallen far from the tree of liberty.

Your model has the Watch Dog (Government) become the Fox (The one banning things). The resulting consequence is that there is no Watch Dog, the people (Hens) have no protector from the Fox.

The constitution was to protect us from the Fox by having a Watch Dog. To blend the two entities is to remove all constitutional rights and protections from the Hens. Do you not see this, or is it truly what you desire?
 

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Lifer
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The vote against this law is a reprimand on our modern form of government. It is the correct choice, though I'm certain you've been raised to find it unfamiliar and foreign. This nation has fallen far from the tree of liberty.

Your model has the Watch Dog (Government) become the Fox (The one banning things). The resulting consequence is that there is no Watch Dog, the people (Hens) have no protector from the Fox.

The constitution was to protect us from the Fox by having a Watch Dog. To blend the two entities is to remove all constitutional rights and protections from the Hens. Do you not see this, or is it truly what you desire?

These analogies don't really apply, since this a law to further stamp out something pretty heinous, not give the gov't power to be both fox and hen. In fact, you'll actually have to be specific now if you want whatever it is you were trying to say to be, uh, the least bit understandable.
 

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Lifer
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I'm not conflicted at all, bitch. If you want to be my bitch, who am I to argue?

I'm sure everyone's your bitch on the Internet, because on the Internet you believe being a libertarian and taking unemployment are reconcilable. Go go Boober!
 

Craig234

Lifer
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The vote against this law is a reprimand on our modern form of government. It is the correct choice, though I'm certain you've been raised to find it unfamiliar and foreign. This nation has fallen far from the tree of liberty.

Your model has the Watch Dog (Government) become the Fox (The one banning things). The resulting consequence is that there is no Watch Dog, the people (Hens) have no protector from the Fox.

The constitution was to protect us from the Fox by having a Watch Dog. To blend the two entities is to remove all constitutional rights and protections from the Hens. Do you not see this, or is it truly what you desire?

It cracks me up a bit all the knuckle draggers who are constitutional experts.

Especially considering our model founding fathers included the second President and his Congress who thought - and acted on - that criticizing the government was criminal.

When the government acts to protect defenseless animals from horrific abuse on behalf of the citizens who have that moral position, the clueless ideologue poster sees tyranny.

He doesn't know tyranny if it bit him, which the animals should do to him.

Give a child a phrase like 'tree of liberty', and get out the gloves to clean up the excrement he leaves behind with it throwing it around.

Oh noes, our country is a police state, animal torture isn't permitted. Glenn Beck would call him a crazy alarmist.
 

BoberFett

Lifer
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I'm sure everyone's your bitch on the Internet, because on the Internet you believe being a libertarian and taking unemployment are reconcilable. Go go Boober!

That same old tired fallacy that being against handouts means you shouldn't take them when they're given to you. Debunked so many times, it's silly to even argue with you. Carry on, bitch.
 

Anarchist420

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You mean the way we've had it with kiddy porn? And yes, it does.
I can't believe all the shit you talk towards me, when you're the idiot.

Learn the 1st Amendment, retard.

Dr. Paul was simply showing some self-control that the rest of the people in Congress clearly don't have.
 

Moonbeam

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I can't believe all the shit you talk towards me, when you're the idiot.

Learn the 1st Amendment, retard.

Dr. Paul was simply showing some self-control that the rest of the people in Congress clearly don't have.

Yup, he saved us from a death penalty for tying our shoes.