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Ron Paul knowingly keeps campaign contribution given by a White Supremacist.

Drift3r

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Now maybe I am crazy but wouldn't the correct move be to give it back if you disagree with the guy? His reply was very dubious at best IMHO. He is either a liar or extremely desperate for cash.

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul has received a $500 campaign donation from a white supremacist, and the Texas congressman doesn't plan to return it, an aide said Wednesday.

Don Black, of West Palm Beach, recently made the donation, according to campaign filings. He runs a Web site called Stormfront with the motto, "White Pride World Wide." The site welcomes postings to the "Stormfront White Nationalist Community."

"Dr. Paul stands for freedom, peace, prosperity and inalienable rights. If someone with small ideologies happens to contribute money to Ron, thinking he can influence Ron in any way, he's wasted his money," Paul spokesman Jesse Benton said. "Ron is going to take the money and try to spread the message of freedom."

"And that's $500 less that this guy has to do whatever it is that he does," Benton added.

Black said he supports Paul's stance on ending the war in Iraq, securing U.S. borders and his opposition to amnesty for illegal immigrants.

"We know that he's not a white nationalist. He says he isn't and we believe him, but on the issues, there's only one choice," Black said Wednesday.

"We like his stand on tight borders and opposition to a police state," Black told The Palm Beach Post earlier.

On his Web site, Black says he has been involved in "the White patriot movement for 30 years."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22331091/

http://www.startribune.com/politics/12635086.html
 

compuwiz1

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While I don't favor Ron Paul, this looks like someone just looking for some dirt. :D
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: bamacre
If a White Supremacist sent me $500, I wouldn't give it back either.

Haha. I have to agree. I'd be like, "You suck, white supremacist dude! Thanks for the cash!"
 

JD50

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Wow, what a non-issue. Ron Paul still has my vote, I'm not going to lose any sleep over him not giving money back to a white supremacist.
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: bamacre
If a White Supremacist sent me $500, I wouldn't give it back either.

If you are running on your own deeply held values you would. Then again if you have no values then I can see why.

If a person with ties to the communist party in China sends Paul money should he return it?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: bamacre
If a White Supremacist sent me $500, I wouldn't give it back either.

If you are running on your own deeply held values you would. Then again if you have no values then I can see why.

If a person with ties to the communist party in China sends Paul money should he return it?

If a Republican donates money to the campaign of a Democrat, should the Dem be forced to return it? And vice versa?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Ron Paul supporters unite!!

Oh c'mon, this is the weakest political mudsling I've ever seen in my life. Anyone could see that. You'd think they could have at least dug up some intern who gave him a bj or something...
 

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Dear jeebus, Ron Paul has the old bush effect! No matter what he does, his supporters find a way to excuse it.

 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Stoneburner
Dear jeebus, Ron Paul has the old bush effect! No matter what he does, his supporters find a way to excuse it.
Tell me who you're voting for and I guarantee I'll be able to get you to excuse something that they've done in less than 10 minutes. Sadder still, I'll bet I could get you to do it without even realizing it. You hacks are all the same.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Ron Paul supporters unite!!

Oh c'mon, this is the weakest political mudsling I've ever seen in my life. Anyone could see that. You'd think they could have at least dug up some intern who gave him a bj or something...

True, it is pretty trivial, but then again all he had to do was send the money back once he knew the source. That would have been the smart move.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: bamacre
If a White Supremacist sent me $500, I wouldn't give it back either.

If you are running on your own deeply held values you would. Then again if you have no values then I can see why.

If a person with ties to the communist party in China sends Paul money should he return it?

You don't see the difference between someone with ties to a foreign government and a US citizen? :roll:
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Ron Paul supporters unite!!

Oh c'mon, this is the weakest political mudsling I've ever seen in my life. Anyone could see that. You'd think they could have at least dug up some intern who gave him a bj or something...

True, it is pretty trivial, but then again all he had to do was send the money back once he knew the source. That would have been the smart move.

Why? We all know that media situations like this are always "damned if you do, damned if you don't," so why should Stormfront get their money back? Particularly when the obvious "damned if you do" scenario would be headlines saying "Paul donates to racist group!"
C'mon, just because some people suck down the media's usual chocolate ration BS doesn't mean that we all do.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: bamacre
If a White Supremacist sent me $500, I wouldn't give it back either.

If you are running on your own deeply held values you would. Then again if you have no values then I can see why.

If a person with ties to the communist party in China sends Paul money should he return it?

Who do you think is supporting Hillary?
 

bamacre

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You know, I love it. I really do. For two reasons.

One, the fact that people are trying to dig up dirt on Ron Paul proves he's moving up a bit. And two, the dirt you see is going to be pretty damn petty. What's next, "Ron Paul admits to putting bananas on his PBJ sandwiches!"

:laugh:
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: bamacre
If a White Supremacist sent me $500, I wouldn't give it back either.

If you are running on your own deeply held values you would. Then again if you have no values then I can see why.

If a person with ties to the communist party in China sends Paul money should he return it?

You don't see the difference between someone with ties to a foreign government and a US citizen? :roll:

So a US citizen with ties to a terrorist/hate group is okay in your book? What about a US citizen with ties to organize crime?
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: bamacre
If a White Supremacist sent me $500, I wouldn't give it back either.

If you are running on your own deeply held values you would. Then again if you have no values then I can see why.

If a person with ties to the communist party in China sends Paul money should he return it?

Who do you think is supporting Hillary?

QFT :laugh:
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Ron Paul supporters unite!!

Oh c'mon, this is the weakest political mudsling I've ever seen in my life. Anyone could see that. You'd think they could have at least dug up some intern who gave him a bj or something...

True, it is pretty trivial, but then again all he had to do was send the money back once he knew the source. That would have been the smart move.

Why? We all know that media situations like this are always "damned if you do, damned if you don't," so why should Stormfront get their money back? Particularly when the obvious "damned if you do" scenario would be headlines saying "Paul donates to racist group!"
C'mon, just because some people suck down the media's usual chocolate ration BS doesn't mean that we all do.

Because an honest person would give it back and state that they do not want tainted money from a organization founded on ideologies they do not share or believe in? Yeah I know that sounds crazy.
 

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Ron Paul supporters unite!!

Oh c'mon, this is the weakest political mudsling I've ever seen in my life. Anyone could see that. You'd think they could have at least dug up some intern who gave him a bj or something...

True, it is pretty trivial, but then again all he had to do was send the money back once he knew the source. That would have been the smart move.

Why? RP's message has been pretty simple all along.....follow the Constitution.

The Constitution guarantees the right to free speech for individuals and he is simply doing what he has said he will do all along....follow the Constitution. Just because you don't like the message doesn't mean that the person isn't allowed to say it.

If you read the article, the source of the money says that he knows that RP doesn't believe in his "cause" but that some of the political stances RP has taken do fall in line with his. This guy didn't give thinking that he would get slavery back....he gave cause he is a small minded idiot who thinks that RP's policies will help him sleep at night cause there will be less coloreds sneaking in the nation.
 

bamacre

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Considering who Ron Paul is, a Communist would be among the last wanting to give him money. Bad analogy.

If some dumbass racist wants to give Paul money, pfft, fuck it, take it. As Napoleon once said, "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Drift3r
Originally posted by: bamacre
If a White Supremacist sent me $500, I wouldn't give it back either.

If you are running on your own deeply held values you would. Then again if you have no values then I can see why.

If a person with ties to the communist party in China sends Paul money should he return it?

If a Republican donates money to the campaign of a Democrat, should the Dem be forced to return it? And vice versa?

You can't compare the two. Sorry but this is just over reaching on your party. Deep down when you look at both parties they have some core beliefs that each hold. Ron Paul claims not to believe in this man's position/cause and says he is diametrically to his values. You seriously cannot compare the two.