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Ron Paul for preisdent 2008!

usce

Junior Member
Just wanted to say with all the mild candidates we have on both sides of the spectrum, Ron Paul stands out from the crowd.

About Ron
Brief Overview of Congressman Paul's Record

He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.

He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.
Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) is the leading advocate for freedom in our nation's capital. As a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, Dr. Paul tirelessly works for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. He is known among his congressional colleagues and his constituents for his consistent voting record. Dr. Paul never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution. In the words of former Treasury Secretary William Simon, Dr. Paul is the "one exception to the Gang of 535" on Capitol Hill.

Ron Paul was born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He graduated from Gettysburg College and the Duke University School of Medicine, before proudly serving as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force during the 1960s. He and his wife Carol moved to Texas in 1968, where he began his medical practice in Brazoria County. As a specialist in obstetrics/gynecology, Dr. Paul has delivered more than 4,000 babies. He and Carol, who reside in Lake Jackson, Texas, are the proud parents of five children and have 17 grandchildren.

While serving in Congress during the late 1970s and early 1980s, Dr. Paul's limited-government ideals were not popular in Washington. In 1976, he was one of only four Republican congressmen to endorse Ronald Reagan for president.

During that time, Congressman Paul served on the House Banking committee, where he was a strong advocate for sound monetary policy and an outspoken critic of the Federal Reserve's inflationary measures. He was an unwavering advocate of pro-life and pro-family values. Dr. Paul consistently voted to lower or abolish federal taxes, spending and regulation, and used his House seat to actively promote the return of government to its proper constitutional levels. In 1984, he voluntarily relinquished his House seat and returned to his medical practice.

Dr. Paul returned to Congress in 1997 to represent the 14th congressional district of Texas. He presently serves on the House Committee on Financial Services and the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. He continues to advocate a dramatic reduction in the size of the federal government and a return to constitutional principles.

Congressman Paul's consistent voting record prompted one of his congressional colleagues to say, "Ron Paul personifies the Founding Fathers' ideal of the citizen-statesman. He makes it clear that his principles will never be compromised, and they never are." Another colleague observed, "There are few people in public life who, through thick and thin, rain or shine, stick to their principles. Ron Paul is one of those few."
May 05, 2007 Ron Paul Wins MSNBC Debate Poll
Highest Positive, Lowest Negative
In the MSNBC.com rating window of 72,419 votes at 8:10 PM EDT, Friday, May 4, Ron Paul not only had the highest positive rating:
32% Paul
30% Romney
26% Giuliani
21% McCain
14% Huckabee
9% Brownback
9% Tancredo
8% Hunter
8% Thompson
6% Gilmore

...but he also had the lowest negative rating:

29% Paul
35% Romney
37% Huckabee
40% Giuliani
42% McCain
43% Gilmore
43% Hunter
45% Thompson
45% Tancredo
46% Brownback
Posted on May 05, 2007 at 10:57 AM | Permalink
May 04, 2007
Press Release
Ron Paul Wins MSNBC Debate Poll
Ron Paul steps into national spotlight

In my eyes, he is the absolutely perfect candidate for president. You know he's good when Faux News hates him. They only gave him 4 minutes out of 1/12 hour debate and he still won. And then you have scumbags that say things like:

Michigan GOP leader wants Paul barred from future debates
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1835140/posts

Support Ron Paul for president! Screw the rest of those warmongers! It's time to put democracy back on track!

www.ronpaul2008.com

Thank you.

Brett K.
 
Originally posted by: usce
Just wanted to say with all the mild candidates we have on both sides of the spectrum, Ron Paul stands out from the crowd.

About Ron
Brief Overview of Congressman Paul's Record

He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.

He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.
Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) is the leading advocate for freedom in our nation's capital. As a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, Dr. Paul tirelessly works for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. He is known among his congressional colleagues and his constituents for his consistent voting record. Dr. Paul never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution. In the words of former Treasury Secretary William Simon, Dr. Paul is the "one exception to the Gang of 535" on Capitol Hill.

*snip*

Sound monetary policy, my ass. He advocates a return to the Gold Standard which is nowhere near sound.

Overall the guy is pretty good but he has some idiotic economic policies (return to Gold Standard, consumption tax, etc.).
 
Originally posted by: usce
Just wanted to say with all the mild candidates we have on both sides of the spectrum, Ron Paul stands out from the crowd.

About Ron
Brief Overview of Congressman Paul's Record

He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.

He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.
Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) is the leading advocate for freedom in our nation's capital. As a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, Dr. Paul tirelessly works for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. He is known among his congressional colleagues and his constituents for his consistent voting record. Dr. Paul never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution. In the words of former Treasury Secretary William Simon, Dr. Paul is the "one exception to the Gang of 535" on Capitol Hill.

Ron Paul was born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He graduated from Gettysburg College and the Duke University School of Medicine, before proudly serving as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force during the 1960s. He and his wife Carol moved to Texas in 1968, where he began his medical practice in Brazoria County. As a specialist in obstetrics/gynecology, Dr. Paul has delivered more than 4,000 babies. He and Carol, who reside in Lake Jackson, Texas, are the proud parents of five children and have 17 grandchildren.

While serving in Congress during the late 1970s and early 1980s, Dr. Paul's limited-government ideals were not popular in Washington. In 1976, he was one of only four Republican congressmen to endorse Ronald Reagan for president.

During that time, Congressman Paul served on the House Banking committee, where he was a strong advocate for sound monetary policy and an outspoken critic of the Federal Reserve's inflationary measures. He was an unwavering advocate of pro-life and pro-family values. Dr. Paul consistently voted to lower or abolish federal taxes, spending and regulation, and used his House seat to actively promote the return of government to its proper constitutional levels. In 1984, he voluntarily relinquished his House seat and returned to his medical practice.

Dr. Paul returned to Congress in 1997 to represent the 14th congressional district of Texas. He presently serves on the House Committee on Financial Services and the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. He continues to advocate a dramatic reduction in the size of the federal government and a return to constitutional principles.

Congressman Paul's consistent voting record prompted one of his congressional colleagues to say, "Ron Paul personifies the Founding Fathers' ideal of the citizen-statesman. He makes it clear that his principles will never be compromised, and they never are." Another colleague observed, "There are few people in public life who, through thick and thin, rain or shine, stick to their principles. Ron Paul is one of those few."
May 05, 2007 Ron Paul Wins MSNBC Debate Poll
Highest Positive, Lowest Negative
In the MSNBC.com rating window of 72,419 votes at 8:10 PM EDT, Friday, May 4, Ron Paul not only had the highest positive rating:
32% Paul
30% Romney
26% Giuliani
21% McCain
14% Huckabee
9% Brownback
9% Tancredo
8% Hunter
8% Thompson
6% Gilmore

...but he also had the lowest negative rating:

29% Paul
35% Romney
37% Huckabee
40% Giuliani
42% McCain
43% Gilmore
43% Hunter
45% Thompson
45% Tancredo
46% Brownback
Posted on May 05, 2007 at 10:57 AM | Permalink
May 04, 2007
Press Release
Ron Paul Wins MSNBC Debate Poll
Ron Paul steps into national spotlight

In my eyes, he is the absolutely perfect candidate for president. You know he's good when Faux News hates him. They only gave him 4 minutes out of 1/12 hour debate and he still won. And then you have scumbags that say things like:

Michigan GOP leader wants Paul barred from future debates
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1835140/posts

Support Ron Paul for president! Screw the rest of those warmongers! It's time to put democracy back on track!

www.ronpaul2008.com

Thank you.

Brett K.

Hmm MSNBC viewers like him; MSNBC is the most liberal (a tough task) "news" network.

Calling fox news faux shows your a liberal.

So a liberal is trying to convince conservatives to nominate a rino; good luck.
 
Originally posted by: BigJelly
Originally posted by: usce
Just wanted to say with all the mild candidates we have on both sides of the spectrum, Ron Paul stands out from the crowd.

About Ron
Brief Overview of Congressman Paul's Record

He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.

He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

*snip*

Hmm MSNBC viewers like him; MSNBC is the most liberal (a tough task) "news" network.

Calling fox news faux shows your a liberal.

So a liberal is trying to convince conservatives to nominate a rino; good luck.

Ron Paul is more of a classical liberal. That is nothing like current liberals. He's definitely doesn't fit in with the current batch of neocons though.

He's essentially a libertarian in Republican clothing.
 
At this point, Ron Paul would be the only candidate I'd even vote for, across all parties. If he doesn't get on the ballot, I'm just not going to vote in 08.
 
Just a few posts show how stupid republicans are in this country. They don't care about economic policy, our soldiers, or anything. What keeps them going one wonders? The dream that they'll be rich some day? LOL if true - have fun watching your sons be torn apart in a lonely desert.
 
Months ago I made a thread stating that the libertarian party would make a workable third party, if they threw away some of their more crazy ideas.

I think Ron Paul is proof of that. A lot of people like him for what he stands for, but us realists understand that some of his other ideas are just not workable.

Perhaps one day we will get the right candidate. Bloomberg could be going that route with his fiscal conservative-social liberal view on things. If Bloomberg came out against this new immigration bill he could pick up enough pissed off Republicans and Democrats to have a decent chance of winning.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Months ago I made a thread stating that the libertarian party would make a workable third party, if they threw away some of their more crazy ideas.

I think Ron Paul is proof of that. A lot of people like him for what he stands for, but us realists understand that some of his other ideas are just not workable.

Perhaps one day we will get the right candidate. Bloomberg could be going that route with his fiscal conservative-social liberal view on things. If Bloomberg came out against this new immigration bill he could pick up enough pissed off Republicans and Democrats to have a decent chance of winning.

For once ProfJohn and I agree on something. Libertarians have this fundamental problem of taking what is really an excellent idea to the extreme...it would be like the Democrats embracing the positions of the communist party. Some things people like in moderation won't be so popular taken to the far reaches of the extreme. That being said, nobody is a perfect candidate, and I respect Ron Paul for actually standing up for his ideas, instead of bending in the wind like so many of the candidates this time around.

And while I like Bloomberg to some extent, I don't think he'll be coming out against the immigration bill...draconian immigration policies is not exactly the hallmark of a social liberal.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Months ago I made a thread stating that the libertarian party would make a workable third party, if they threw away some of their more crazy ideas.

I think Ron Paul is proof of that. A lot of people like him for what he stands for, but us realists understand that some of his other ideas are just not workable.

Perhaps one day we will get the right candidate. Bloomberg could be going that route with his fiscal conservative-social liberal view on things. If Bloomberg came out against this new immigration bill he could pick up enough pissed off Republicans and Democrats to have a decent chance of winning.

That can be said for nearly every politician really. Most of them have a few ideas that just aren't workable. As long as the majority of the ideas are workable, who really cares if one or two ideas just don't work? That's what Congress is for, to weed out the stupid ideas. It's not like we would be accepting 100% his economic and foreign policies.
 
Watch this video showing the obvious fox, and mainstream media in general, abject FEAR of Ron Paul becoming a viable candidate. But it won't work this time. Fox is dead, and the only people who watch fox other than clips on youtube or the occasional debate are of the ilk that espouse the irrational and insane ideas one can easily find on this forum.

Ron Paul is no friend to corporate America, so he has to be called out by almost every major media outlet -- even though it's clear that rudy was wrong. Since the wave of overwhelming support for this man has been made manifest, it's not good enough to ignore his effect, he has to be vilified. So all we see about Paul is fake indignation about his comments, threats of removing him from the next debate, etc.

It's great watching these scumbags squirm.
 
It's interesting to note that foxnews at most had about 2.5 million viewers and about 40,000 votes. I didn't vote, didn't want to waste 10 cents (yah i'm a cheap bastard). So that's only about 1.5% of the people that watched. Now who's watching it? and who's voting? Foxnews voting is apparently tamper-proof? I can't verify that. Was that something Hannity said because he was asking for more votes?
 
Originally posted by: dyn2nvu
It's interesting to note that foxnews at most had about 2.5 million viewers and about 40,000 votes. I didn't vote, didn't want to waste 10 cents (yah i'm a cheap bastard). So that's only about 1.5% of the people that watched. Now who's watching it? and who's voting? Foxnews voting is apparently tamper-proof? I can't verify that. Was that something Hannity said because he was asking for more votes?

Well, actually me and my 'terrist' friends went out and stole all the cellphones we could find. Then we went on to rig the msnbc poll in which Ron Paul absolutely STOMPED the others. Oh yeah and the abc poll too. We did a good job, no? 😛
 
Originally posted by: morkinva
Originally posted by: dyn2nvu
It's interesting to note that foxnews at most had about 2.5 million viewers and about 40,000 votes. I didn't vote, didn't want to waste 10 cents (yah i'm a cheap bastard). So that's only about 1.5% of the people that watched. Now who's watching it? and who's voting? Foxnews voting is apparently tamper-proof? I can't verify that. Was that something Hannity said because he was asking for more votes?

Well, actually me and my 'terrist' friends went out and stole all the cellphones we could find. Then we went on to rig the msnbc poll in which Ron Paul absolutely STOMPED the others. Oh yeah and the abc poll too. We did a good job, no? 😛

Yah, I heard text messaging champion (Cindy I think) texted all the votes for Ron Paul. :laugh: 😛
 
There are two aspects to consider here. Domestic policy and foreign policy. Domestically I am libertarian and adamantly oppose increases in taxation and government. This includes opposing the Patriot Act.

However, Ron Paul and I could not be more polar opposite on foreign policy. On this side of politics he sounds like the far left of the Democratic Party where as I know no one to my right on these issues. I am of the mindset of WW2 and the civil war eras, vouching for total war and unwavering forceful demand for victory and security over the threats out there.

While I?d love to find someone I agree with domestically, we?re in the beginning of a global war and when I saw Ron Paul on the debate I crossed him off my list. There?s no way I could ever cast a vote for him.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
There are two aspects to consider here. Domestic policy and foreign policy. Domestically I am libertarian and adamantly oppose increases in taxation and government. This includes opposing the Patriot Act.

However, Ron Paul and I could not be more polar opposite on foreign policy. On this side of politics he sounds like the far left of the Democratic Party where as I know no one to my right on these issues. I am of the mindset of WW2 and the civil war eras, vouching for total war and unwavering forceful demand for victory and security over the threats out there.

While I?d love to find someone I agree with domestically, we?re in the beginning of a global war and when I saw Ron Paul on the debate I crossed him off my list. There?s no way I could ever cast a vote for him.

Well historically the Democrats have been the ones in search of monsters to kill overseas, while republicans have been the pro-peace, non-interventionists types.

Here's a site the op could add to his/her post.
http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/12866/facing-the-music-ron-paul/

 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
There are two aspects to consider here. Domestic policy and foreign policy. Domestically I am libertarian and adamantly oppose increases in taxation and government. This includes opposing the Patriot Act.

However, Ron Paul and I could not be more polar opposite on foreign policy. On this side of politics he sounds like the far left of the Democratic Party where as I know no one to my right on these issues. I am of the mindset of WW2 and the civil war eras, vouching for total war and unwavering forceful demand for victory and security over the threats out there.

While I?d love to find someone I agree with domestically, we?re in the beginning of a global war and when I saw Ron Paul on the debate I crossed him off my list. There?s no way I could ever cast a vote for him.

Good, the Libertarian movement needs fewer morons such as yourself. The government does a sh*tty job at things such as running public schools. What makes you so sure they can go invading any country it pleases and install democracies which is infinitely harder than running a public school? Want to know why our security is so bad? It's because we stick our noses where it doesn't belong. Even a 5 year old knows that every time you take an action, there's going to be a reaction.
 
You ever see or hear of those couples that have a fight and the guy hits the girl. Then another guy comes in and tries do something, but having the girl say "what the F*** are you doing?"
 
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