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Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Notice the oldest, and richest get their names up front and center. It's a couple months shy of being two years out. Media loves feasting on the leftover political capital of the previous generation.

Clinton, Bush, Romney? None should be President.
 

theeedude

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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Notice the oldest, and richest get their names up front and center. It's a couple months shy of being two years out. Media loves feasting on the leftover political capitol of the previous generation.

Clinton, Bush, Romney? None should be President.

Should Franklin Roosevelt and John Quincy Adams not have been president either?
 

etrigan420

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I doubt that more and more. The latest revelation of Slick Willy's involvement in the underage sex ring makes it even more unlikely.

I must be outta the loop...is this the same sex ring involving Dershowitz (sp) and Prince Andrew? I haven't read much into it, but the whole thing has a very "Aim for the stars, and even if you miss you'll end up in the heavens" feel to it.

:shrug:

I'd much rather see Warren or Sanders at any rate, just cause I'm socialist like that.

I think Wyden would make a good candidate, but I'm not sure he has the requisite name recognition. (Although I guess Obama didn't prior to the '08 primary either...)
 

theeedude

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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Are you that hung up on seeing Hillary elected, 8 years past her prime?

Not so much in the primary, but not because she's a Clinton or because of her age.
She's a "blue dog" Democrat, which is an endangered species that needs to go extinct. This country needs true progressive candidates from the Democrats, not Republican lites.
I will vote for her over any Republican if she is the nominee, but not in the primary.
 

rudder

Lifer
Nov 9, 2000
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America is open to legalizing marijuana... Romney is to socially conservative for this and will not succeed because his attitudes.
 

MongGrel

Lifer
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America is open to legalizing marijuana... Romney is to socially conservative for this and will not succeed because his attitudes.

I'd hope Romney would never get there because he's an ass in general.

More or less.
 
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jpeyton

Moderator in SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones
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Aug 23, 2003
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Romney running again is good for the Democrats.

Nothing says the GOP is out of fresh ideas quite like punting a tired, losing candidate like Romney back up to bat.
 

Angry Irishman

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Not so much in the primary, but not because she's a Clinton or because of her age.
She's a "blue dog" Democrat, which is an endangered species that needs to go extinct. This country needs true progressive candidates from the Democrats, not Republican lites.
I will vote for her over any Republican if she is the nominee, but not in the primary.

We need pure progressive BS like we need a bad case of hemorrhoids. We also don't need the ultra conservative BS either. Somewhere in the middle would be fine.
 

bradley

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If your elected representative or political candidate isn't actively entertaining these ideas and fundamental economic problems, s/he isn't worth squat. Just like a petition with 2,094 signatures and letters will likely do squat. The US Government has slowly eroded it's autonomy as a sovereign nation by allowing colonization through foreign bodies.

Withdraw from WTO and Repeal NAFTA, GATT, and CAFTA
http://www.petition2congress.com/2376/withdraw-from-wto-repeal-nafta-cafta/

The Constitution of the United States of America established our nation as an independent Democratic Republic controlled by the people. The Constitution established the laws and principles that bind us together as a free and independent nation; and

Our Constitution established that Congress, and only Congress has the power to negotiate trade with foreign countries; and,

In confirmation, Article 1, section 8 of the U.S. Constitution clearly states: "Congress shall have the Power to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes”; and

As a member of the WTO, the United States must conform to the rules and regulations of a foreign multi-lateral agency called the World Trade Organization; and

As a member of the WTO, Congress has illegally forfeited the power, (granted only to Congress by our constitution), to regulate U.S. commerce to a foreign power called the WTO.

Moreover, there is no provision in the Constitution that gives Congress the authority to pass the power to regulate, control, or govern U.S. commerce to a foreign nation, government, body, or agency like the World Trade Organization.

In addition, the President does not have the Constitutional power to negotiate trade agreements such as the North American Free Trade Agreement, the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, or the Central American Free Trade Agreement, as trade negotiation is the sole domain of the Congress of the United States according to our Constitution, Article 1, section 8.

Moreover, We the People of the United States of America believe that our Constitution is the law of the land and membership in the WTO violates Article 1, section 8 of our constitution; and is therefore unconstitutional and illegal.

Furthermore, We the People believe that NAFTA, GATT, and CAFTA both undermine our economy, our security, and the sovereignty of our great nation; and

WHEREAS, U.S. trade deficits with China, Mexico, and Canada have increased significantly since the implementation of NAFTA and GATT, and that undermines our economy, sovereignty, and our independence as a nation; and

WHEREAS, NAFTA has served as a conduit for smuggling illegal aliens, illegal drugs, and terrorists into this country; and

WHEREAS, We the People, under our constitution, are against turning over our economy, our security, our independence, and our sovereignty to a foreign body; and

WHEREAS, we concede to the fact that the WTO, GATT, NAFTA, and CAFTA undermine our economy, our security, our independence, and our national sovereignty; and

WHEREAS, we believe that Americans, as a people, have the right to keep the fruits of their labor, and as a sovereign independent nation, we owe nothing to foreign countries, groups, or agencies; and

WHEREAS, we believe in upholding the Constitution of the United States of America as the supreme law of the land; and

WHEREAS, the Constitution grants Congress, and Congress alone, the authority to regulate commerce; and

WHEREAS, Congress does not have Constitutional authority to cede the control of international trade or commerce to the WTO or any other foreign government, or international body or agency; and

WHEREAS, our membership in the WTO violates Article 1, section 8, of
the Constitution of the United States of America and is therefore illegal; and

WHEREAS, the President nor Congress can not legally sign any treaty that purports to cede the authority to control U.S. commerce, trade or tariffs to a foreign body; therefore,

BE IT RESOLVED, that we the People endorse the following constitutional principles:

1. The United States government including Congress does not have the power under the Constitution of the United States of America to cede the regulation or the control of commerce to a foreign body, government, or agency.

2. Under our constitution, the United States of America does not have to answer to any governing body outside the United States for its trade regulations or trade policy.

3. Ceding authority over U.S. trade and commerce to a foreign body, government, or agency is illegal and in direct violation of Article 1, section 8, of the Constitution of the United States of America.

4. NAFTA, GATT, and CAFTA exported our jobs and our property to foreign countries and imported illegal aliens, drugs, and terrorists.

THEREFORE, We the People petition congress to honor our Constitution and their pledge to uphold and defend our Constitution by acting immediately to withdraw the United States of America from the World Trade Organization, and by repealing NAFTA, GATT, and CAFTA which are all unfair and unlawful trade agreements that undermine our economy and our sovereignty.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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If your elected representative or political candidate isn't actively entertaining these ideas and fundamental economic problems, s/he isn't worth squat. Just like a petition with 2,094 signatures and letters will likely do squat. The US Government has slowly eroded it's autonomy as a sovereign nation by allowing colonization through foreign bodies.

Withdraw from WTO and Repeal NAFTA, GATT, and CAFTA
http://www.petition2congress.com/2376/withdraw-from-wto-repeal-nafta-cafta/

Lofty goals that our rich and powerful, who have/are profiting immensely from these agreements will never relinquish this method of "equitable trade." These profit-above-all-else types have abandoned the ideals of national self-sufficiency and "the lifting of all boats" in favor of lifting their own boats on the backs of the middle class and the poor and any other poor non-American souls that they can exploit. These greed-driven folks see our middle class and poor as leeches that deprive them of their right to raid our nation's treasury as they see fit.

These profiteers have seen the glow of that pot-o-gold at the end of the rainbow and found that to acquire this pot of obscene riches they need to suppress the economic potential of the middle class and the poor by driving these classes of citizens into serfdom, thus positioning themselves to better exploit the global market.

They have realized that to compete successfully on the global market while remaining in the USA, they have only two choices: Export jobs and/or import cheap labor.

That leaves the middle class and the poor out of the equation, right where they belong.