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Roger Stone arrested

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Hayabusa Rider said:
Note the phrasing "I will not give FALSE testimony" not that he would never testify. He can and likely will use that if he flips because his choice of words was unusually specific. He foresaw that he might be called on his wrongdoings.
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We will see. It certainly appears from the evidence that Mueller has him dead to rights.
 
fskimospy said:
Same question to you as with dyna. The reporters involved do not claim they were tipped off and instead thought it was good to stake out his house based on grand jury activity. Do you have any evidence that they are lying or any evidence that this was based on something else? Any evidence whatsoever?

Let's be honest here, this whole talk is just like Vic said: the goal is to distract from Stone's arrest and connections to Trump by any means possible. Talking about how the FBI was bad in how it conducted the arrest is a desperate attempt to move away from just how insanely bad the indictment is.
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That could very well be true. But Stone knew he was going to be arrested, why did they need a swat team? Why not set it up with stones attorney and drive down to the police station? If they thought Stone might be destroying evidence, they still could have done the entire thing with 3 agents. It was theater. Someone wanted to be sure it was seen as a big deal so they made it a big deal. It guaranteed that this became a page one story instead of page three.
That doesn't mean Stone is any more or less guilty, that has to play out in court. But the big production number at the opening sets the stage for act II, and probably has a pretty solid psychological effect on Stone.
 
Is Sarah in FL? There's a reporter outside the building where Stone is going to do the perp walk and I swear she's behind him listening in and taking notes.
 
Greenman said:
That could be correct, and would justify the action taken. But that hasn't been mentioned.
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What has been mentioned is there are claims they believed he was extremely drunk and armed. Unclear if these are true.

Regardless, let’s focus on the indictment, which seems insanely bad for Trump. His campaign and possibly him personally is now directly tied to intermediaries for Russian intelligence and the DNC’s hacked emails.
 
Stone surrenders his passport, cannot change his address, have any communication with witnesses, and pays a $250,000 bond.

What I'm interested in especially who the "higher individual" who directed Bannon. Chances are the last name is Trump or Kushner.

Edit- Paragraph 12 involves Stone, not Bannon at that time.
 
Greenman said:
That could very well be true. But Stone knew he was going to be arrested, why did they need a swat team? Why not set it up with stones attorney and drive down to the police station? If they thought Stone might be destroying evidence, they still could have done the entire thing with 3 agents. It was theater. Someone wanted to be sure it was seen as a big deal so they made it a big deal. It guaranteed that this became a page one story instead of page three.
That doesn't mean Stone is any more or less guilty, that has to play out in court. But the big production number at the opening sets the stage for act II, and probably has a pretty solid psychological effect on Stone.
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Oh, puh-leeze! It would have been a front page story under any circumstances.
 
ecogen said:
So this is not a major event?
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It could turn out to be a pretty big deal. But is that how law enforcement bases their decisions on how to make an arrest? Unless they had some reason to think Stone was going to barricade himself in his house and shoot it out with the police, there was no reason for the action taken. They swatted a fly with a sledge hammer.
 
Jhhnn said:
Oh, puh-leeze! It would have been a front page story under any circumstances.
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well, only in the fake media of course. Many would never know it was news--except it's obviously being spun now as some sort of coordination with the enemy of the people media to make a scene. never mind the actual reason that any of this happened. The real story is that cameras were there for some reason--why? We don't know! But it is very likely that they were there because they were tipped off and there is collusion between the fake media and fake investigation! Lack of evidence for anything leads to the perfectly reasonable conclusion that a grand conspiracy was committed for....some reason.

etc.
 
Greenman said:
It could turn out to be a pretty big deal. But is that how law enforcement bases their decisions on how to make an arrest? Unless they had some reason to think Stone was going to barricade himself in his house and shoot it out with the police, there was no reason for the action taken. They swatted a fly with a sledge hammer.
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Who knows, maybe they needed a fun distraction in order to convince unpaid agents to come to work this morning??








/s
 
Greenman said:
It could turn out to be a pretty big deal. But is that how law enforcement bases their decisions on how to make an arrest? Unless they had some reason to think Stone was going to barricade himself in his house and shoot it out with the police, there was no reason for the action taken. They swatted a fly with a sledge hammer.
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This is correct. Save the military gear for black people and random swatting victims. Not rich white gentlemen.
 
UNCjigga said:
I thought she was on the White House lawn when CNN spoke with her this morning.
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OK, someone who was dressed like her with a similar build was what I say.

Looks like witness tampering may be against Corst, which means Trump's threats are being considered.

9 Trump associates indicted or guilty and 25 russians too.

Hell of a good bag of witches there.
 
Greenman said:
It could turn out to be a pretty big deal. But is that how law enforcement bases their decisions on how to make an arrest? Unless they had some reason to think Stone was going to barricade himself in his house and shoot it out with the police, there was no reason for the action taken. They swatted a fly with a sledge hammer.
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That's not the only reason to arrest him like that, remember the Cohen raid? For all we know they had a good reason to take him in that way.
 
Greenman said:
It could turn out to be a pretty big deal. But is that how law enforcement bases their decisions on how to make an arrest? Unless they had some reason to think Stone was going to barricade himself in his house and shoot it out with the police, there was no reason for the action taken. They swatted a fly with a sledge hammer.
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Prosecutors will often perp-walk suspects in order to send a message to any accomplices that he has the goods on them. Especially in high profile cases.
 
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Greenman said:
It could turn out to be a pretty big deal. But is that how law enforcement bases their decisions on how to make an arrest? Unless they had some reason to think Stone was going to barricade himself in his house and shoot it out with the police, there was no reason for the action taken. They swatted a fly with a sledge hammer.
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The means & methods of the arrest were at the discretion of the FBI, not the Special Counsel. Maybe they thought a show of force was appropriate wrt Trump associates, given the effect of the shutdown on their operations-

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/us/politics/fbi-shutdown-law-enforcement.html

I'm pretty sure the FBI has their own axe to grind wrt El Presidente.
 
Greenman said:
It could turn out to be a pretty big deal. But is that how law enforcement bases their decisions on how to make an arrest? Unless they had some reason to think Stone was going to barricade himself in his house and shoot it out with the police, there was no reason for the action taken. They swatted a fly with a sledge hammer.
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What do you think of American military strategy to use overwhelming force. I thought it was rather patriotic to support that. And how did the manner of the arrest become such a big issue absent some unwillingness to see how guilty Republicans have been in all of this. I deeply believe in not allowing ideology rush to justice and see guilt in a red hat, but the opposite is to remain totally naive. Republicans rationalizing reasons to turn the FBI into the Stasi, is an industrial level effort. I think you are being played.
 
Greenman said:
.. They swatted a fly with a sledge hammer.
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You cant possibly say that without knowing the details around the arrest, as non of us do right now. So all you have to go on is: Do these people know how to do their jobs? If so, its for now probably warranted to give them benefit of doubt...and to assume it was STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE for the specific case in question..
OR of course, FBI could have gone full partisan theatrical mode in a classic deep state move to covertly take down Donald Trump, Grand Emperor Of The United States.
What do you think?

Hey we are missing an obvious play on words here... Roger Brick... Another Stone in the Wall.. queue Led Zeppelin: Just another Stone in the Wall ........
 
UberNeuman said:
Oh, by the way - 12 more sealed cases filed this week in DC. Nothing to see.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1088665084501598208

lol.
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This to me is quite interesting given that Stone's was not sealed. Makes me think we are either at end game with Mueller rounding up the bigger fish short of Trump or perhaps financial crimes related to the investigation and a lot of people who aren't public figures or part of Trump's campaign. I will say if there is a money trail involved in this conspiracy that it will guarantee unraveling of Trump.
 
Remember that Colin Powell hacked email saying that anything Hillary touched she fucked up with hubris?

Yeah. This entire administration has done nothing than trip over their own flaccid wrinkly old dicks at every step. Hopefully that arrogance is finally served a big ass bitter cup of Justice.
 
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