ROFL AT THE SIMPSONS!!! (MODS, lock this or move it to P&N please)

[beer]

I cannot believe a thread about a cartnoon has degraded into a flame war like your typical P&N crap does. This is just unbeleivable.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: elanarchist

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Shelly21
Wow, very liberal.

Don't confuse liberal with true.

:roll:

Really? The government is throwing people who criticize it into Alcatraz?

:roll:

This is the most partisan I have ever seen the Simpsons be. It was sad and stupid. The lead into the story was especially painful to watch because it was so freaking stupid... and that was apolitical.

Amused, you are probably one of the most closed-minded conservatives on the ATOT boards. If something is just the tad bit leaning to the left, you automatically discount it as partisan. What's wrong with something *gasp* POLITICAL on the Simpsons? Has this become such a dirty word as to be swept under the table in American society? We put up with right-wing nutjobs like O'Reily and Hannity on Faux News, so don't you think its only fair to let The Simpsons have a jab at the right?

For your info, I don't like O'Reilly or Hannity and I'm not conservative... not by a long shot.

Repeat after me: "Just because someone is not liberal and despises liberal (read: socialistic) idealism does NOT mean they are "conservative.""

I disagree with conservatives as often as I do liberals. It is not my fault that all you take issue with is my anti-socialist posts on a message board flooded with liberal college students.

The Simpsons used to take a very balanced jab at both sides. This was a huge departure from that.

Hey, I'm not trying to flame man but the Simpsons have always been known s a liberal t.v. show... Always... They may take mainstream/centrist views at times but the show sides with the left far often than it sides with the right.

Really? I've seldom noticed that. In fact, it has lampooned both sides quite a bit... most often in the same show.

 

[shuan24]

Simpsons makes blunt jokes, and conservative people tend to not like that.

Big deal. Not saying they are liberal or conservative, I dont think the authors (or writers) are trying to convey either side. Get over it.

 

[SoylentGreen]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
It's a fscking cartoon for Christ Sakes, what's the big deal?

Is it difficult for you to grasp that each topic is discussed within the context of where it's from.

Yes, at least I hope, that people even here are taking it for what it was, a cartoon.

Yes it was funny.

Yes it was a departure from most episodes as of late if not the entire series. I haven't watched every episode to quantify my statment.

Yes it does paint a picture of where our country is headed if not already there. And this underlying truth is actually very, very sad.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Kiyup

Yes it does paint a picture of where our country is headed if not already there. And this underlying truth is actually very, very sad.

Oh bullsh!t. I see no danger of people being rounded up and deported for being unpatriotic. If you do, you should check into the paranoia problem you have.

 

[SoylentGreen]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Kiyup

Yes it does paint a picture of where our country is headed if not already there. And this underlying truth is actually very, very sad.

Oh bullsh!t. I see no danger of people being rounded up and deported for being unpatriotic. If you do, you should check into the paranoia problem you have.

Yes, I was speaking about EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF THE SHOW AS A PORTAYAL OF THE TRUTH.

So just for you, I'm going to start right now, a paypal fund to get a hooker and get you laid.

You need it bad.

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: elanarchist

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Shelly21
Wow, very liberal.

Don't confuse liberal with true.

:roll:

Really? The government is throwing people who criticize it into Alcatraz?

:roll:

This is the most partisan I have ever seen the Simpsons be. It was sad and stupid. The lead into the story was especially painful to watch because it was so freaking stupid... and that was apolitical.

Amused, you are probably one of the most closed-minded conservatives on the ATOT boards. If something is just the tad bit leaning to the left, you automatically discount it as partisan. What's wrong with something *gasp* POLITICAL on the Simpsons? Has this become such a dirty word as to be swept under the table in American society? We put up with right-wing nutjobs like O'Reily and Hannity on Faux News, so don't you think its only fair to let The Simpsons have a jab at the right?

For your info, I don't like O'Reilly or Hannity and I'm not conservative... not by a long shot.

Repeat after me: "Just because someone is not liberal and despises liberal (read: socialistic) idealism does NOT mean they are "conservative.""

I disagree with conservatives as often as I do liberals. It is not my fault that all you take issue with is my anti-socialist posts on a message board flooded with liberal college students.

The Simpsons used to take a very balanced jab at both sides. This was a huge departure from that.

Actually domestic Neocons are pretty much defined by their hatred of "liberal (read: socialistic) idealism." Theirs is a negative program to destroy the new deal. If you hate liberals but declare yourself "independent" then you're a crypto-neoconservative.

Anyway, the Simpsons aren't really "liberal," they are satirical. They've lampooned everybody, INCLUDING bill clinton. Remember the last line of one episode where clinton says, "and I'm a lousy president." Satire doesn't work if you pull your punches.

 

[shuan24]

Originally posted by: preslove

Actually domestic Neocons are pretty much defined by their hatred of "liberal (read: socialistic) idealism." Theirs is a negative program to destroy the new deal. If you hate liberals but declare yourself "independent" then you're a crypto-neoconservative.

Is it me or is that just hard to understand? I just graduated college, maybe I dont get out enough. Sad, very sad.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: preslove


Actually domestic Neocons are pretty much defined by their hatred of "liberal (read: socialistic) idealism." Theirs is a negative program to destroy the new deal. If you hate liberals but declare yourself "independent" then you're a crypto-neoconservative.

"neocon" :roll:

How can I be conservative?

I am pro-choice
I support equal legal rights for gay couples
I fully support the total seperation of church and state.
I strongly dislike much of the patriot act.
I oppose any and all laws against flag burning.
I oppose the war on drugs.
In fact, I oppose most, if not all morality based laws governing actions that cause harm to no one.

Next time you try to pigeon hole someone just because they oppose socialist policy... try a little harder.

My only "conservative" stance is opposition to socialist policy (and you can throw in a weak national defense). Not so much the New Deal as the "Great Society."

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: preslove


Actually domestic Neocons are pretty much defined by their hatred of "liberal (read: socialistic) idealism." Theirs is a negative program to destroy the new deal. If you hate liberals but declare yourself "independent" then you're a crypto-neoconservative.

"neocon" :roll:

How can I be conservative?

I am pro-choice
I support equal legal rights for gay couples
I fully support the total seperation of church and state.
I strongly dislike much of the patriot act.
I oppose any and all laws against flag burning.
I oppose the war on drugs.
In fact, I oppose most, if not all morality based laws governing actions that cause harm to no one.

Next time you try to pigeon hole someone just because they oppose socialist policy... try a little harder.

My only "conservative" stance is opposition to socialist policy (and you can throw in a weak national defense). Not so much the New Deal as the "Great Society."

You oppose the Great Society. So you don't like welfare, you don't like medicare and medicaid. What else? New Deal started the "socialist" ball rolling with Social Security. Do you like that socialist measure and not Medicaid? Domestic Neocons (Grover Norquist and others) hate these "socialist" measures and push for huge tax breaks that will bankrupt the government and force cuts to the "socialist" state. Most of these people actually want separation of church and state, they just play along with the christian right because they need a base.

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: elanarchist

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: Shelly21
Wow, very liberal.

Don't confuse liberal with true.

:roll:

Really? The government is throwing people who criticize it into Alcatraz?

:roll:

This is the most partisan I have ever seen the Simpsons be. It was sad and stupid. The lead into the story was especially painful to watch because it was so freaking stupid... and that was apolitical.

Amused, you are probably one of the most closed-minded conservatives on the ATOT boards. If something is just the tad bit leaning to the left, you automatically discount it as partisan. What's wrong with something *gasp* POLITICAL on the Simpsons? Has this become such a dirty word as to be swept under the table in American society? We put up with right-wing nutjobs like O'Reily and Hannity on Faux News, so don't you think its only fair to let The Simpsons have a jab at the right?

For your info, I don't like O'Reilly or Hannity and I'm not conservative... not by a long shot.

Repeat after me: "Just because someone is not liberal and despises liberal (read: socialistic) idealism does NOT mean they are "conservative.""

I disagree with conservatives as often as I do liberals. It is not my fault that all you take issue with is my anti-socialist posts on a message board flooded with liberal college students.

The Simpsons used to take a very balanced jab at both sides. This was a huge departure from that.

Hey, I'm not trying to flame man but the Simpsons have always been known s a liberal t.v. show... Always... They may take mainstream/centrist views at times but the show sides with the left far often than it sides with the right.

Really? I've seldom noticed that. In fact, it has lampooned both sides quite a bit... most often in the same show.

A media criticism class I had dedicated a few lectures to the simpsons... The dominant message of the show is a liberal one that tries to actually convert people on the right by applying conservative logic to "liberal" issues. Think about the episode in which Homer thought that Bart was gay as an example. Liberal ideology filtered through a conservative mindset. I mean, the show is on FOX and they have to conceal their true message to a degree. Of course, Sunday's episode was unusually gutsy and direct. You can agree or disagree with the show's politics but to write and air a show like that on a network owned by a famous conservative activist.. Well, that takes balls..

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: preslove

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: preslove


Actually domestic Neocons are pretty much defined by their hatred of "liberal (read: socialistic) idealism." Theirs is a negative program to destroy the new deal. If you hate liberals but declare yourself "independent" then you're a crypto-neoconservative.

"neocon" :roll:

How can I be conservative?

I am pro-choice
I support equal legal rights for gay couples
I fully support the total seperation of church and state.
I strongly dislike much of the patriot act.
I oppose any and all laws against flag burning.
I oppose the war on drugs.
In fact, I oppose most, if not all morality based laws governing actions that cause harm to no one.

Next time you try to pigeon hole someone just because they oppose socialist policy... try a little harder.

My only "conservative" stance is opposition to socialist policy (and you can throw in a weak national defense). Not so much the New Deal as the "Great Society."

You oppose the Great Society. So you don't like welfare, you don't like medicare and medicaid. What else? New Deal started the "socialist" ball rolling with Social Security. Do you like that socialist measure and not Medicaid? Domestic Neocons (Grover Norquist and others) hate these "socialist" measures and push for huge tax breaks that will bankrupt the government and force cuts to the "socialist" state. Most of these people actually want separation of church and state, they just play along with the christian right because they need a base.

Good gawd get a clue. :roll:

Better yet, keep that one dimensional, simplistic thought process. It should serve you quite well in life :laugh:

 

[preslove]

"Get a clue"
What a mature, multidimensional, nuanced reply :thumbsup: :roll:

 

[oLLie]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Hey, I'm not trying to flame man but the Simpsons have always been known s a liberal t.v. show... Always... They may take mainstream/centrist views at times but the show sides with the left far often than it sides with the right.

I'm a die hard Simpsons fan and I disagree that it has "always" been liberal; only the last one or two seasons have been left-leaning. I think it's a pretty pathetic attempt to revive their previous greatness.

Originally posted by: elanarchist
Amused, you are probably one of the most closed-minded conservatives on the ATOT boards. If something is just the tad bit leaning to the left, you automatically discount it as partisan. What's wrong with something *gasp* POLITICAL on the Simpsons? Has this become such a dirty word as to be swept under the table in American society? We put up with right-wing nutjobs like O'Reily and Hannity on Faux News, so don't you think its only fair to let The Simpsons have a jab at the right?

Maybe you have some beef with Amused from some other thread, but if you're referring to last night's episode of the Simpsons when you say "tad bit leaning to the left" I'm quite surprised at what you would consider center, or extreme left. As for what's "wrong" with something political on the Simpsons: nothing really, it's just that it doesn't make good comedy (at least the way the Simpsons writers have done it).

Off topic with what's wrong with the Simpsons: In the recent episode where Homer and Marge are trying to be romantic and escape the kids and Homer says "Now we can finally and romantically... hump". What is that? Some cheap attempt at Family Guy-esque low-brow humor? At least Family Guy low brow humor was funny, the Simpsons is just bleh. The people in charge should fire all the writers and just have Conan write all the episodes (or the writers from "Lisa the vegetarian"). Like I said, I am (or was) as die hard a Simpsons fan as they come, but it's in a pretty sad state now.

 

[Fritzo]

OK, so some people liked the episode, some didn't. Some like the Simpsons, some no longer like it (yet still torture themselves by watching it for some reason).

Move on.