News Roe v. Wade overturned

[fskimospy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1523833745937252354

Louisiana is of the rails

Ooh, we've got ourselves another nullification crisis.

Although this leads to an immediate question that if Louisiana thought this language was effective why didn't they pass it 40 years ago?

 

[Pens1566]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1523833745937252354

Louisiana is of the rails

Laughs in Supremacy Clause ...

 

[K1052]

Senate Republicans are trying to find the Democrats responsible for this.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1524050945470083073

 

[UNCjigga]

I know people with frozen embryos who are now concerned about what might happen to them if they opt not to use them. Typically you can donate to couples unable to conceive on their own, or you can donate them to science. But if you're not keen on the idea of having a biological son/daughter out there who doesn't know their biological parents, can you be charged for not allowing these embryos to develop?

The worst situation is being in a state like Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma etc. and having to decide whether to terminate the embryos now or keep them available for future family planning, but risk prosecution if you don't use them/make them available to others or be forced to carry a complicated pregnancy to term.

 

[Zorba]

We're basically already there in some places:

GOP candidate says he tells daughters to ‘lie back and enjoy it’ if rape is inevitable

https://wgntv.com/news/gop-candidat...-lie-back-and-enjoy-it-if-rape-is-inevitable/

"He is favored to win..."

I'm sure he tells his daughters to lay back and enjoy it multiple times a week. Where are the Q fucks when you need them?

 

[nakedfrog]

"He is favored to win..."

I'm sure he tells his daughters to lay back and enjoy it multiple times a week. Where are the Q fucks when you need them?

He did lose, at least, to a woman even. But by kind of a disgustingly small amount though. And he is a Q fuck, of course, aren't most people who actually want to have sex with children?

Robert Regan, tagged ‘perhaps worst candidate ever,’ loses House bid to Dem - Bridge Michigan

Democrat Carol Glanville defeated Republican Robert “RJ” Regan in a special election for a West Michigan House seat considered safely conservative. Comments on rape, QAnon and conspiratories about Jews turned off his own party.

www.bridgemi.com

 

[Muse]

Normal country stuff

https://twitter.com/x/status/1524033556216954880

That should be illegal. A licensed pharmacist should be required to honor an Rx.

 

[Paratus]

I'm really confused by this. For the longest time in pro-life circles, we wanted to prosecute abortion providers for murder, but not women who seek them out.
Maybe it's because I live in the north east, but something has really changed over time. There wasn't any impetus to investigate every miscarriage as a possible abortion (which is logistically impossible anyway).
It's getting pretty crazy, IMHO, even for us 'old school' pro-lifers.

So I've asked this before of pro-life folks but never got a decent answer. Maybe you can educate me. If you believe that abortion kills a child and that's the primary reason not to abort how to do you reconcile all the spontaneously aborted embryos/miscarriages that parents create while trying to procreate.

In your 20's the risk is around 15%
In your 40's the risk is around 85%
Taking RU486 without the second pill only causes abortion in 60-85% of cases. With both its above 95%

Since most people do not get pregnant the first month they try the above means almost all parents have killed some kids to have the kids they do - if you believe the above.

 

[dank69]

So I've asked this before of pro-life folks but never got a decent answer. Maybe you can educate me. If you believe that abortion kills a child and that's the primary reason not to abort how to do you reconcile all the spontaneously aborted embryos/miscarriages that parents create while trying to procreate.

In your 20's the risk is around 15%
In your 40's the risk is around 85%
Taking RU486 without the second pill only causes abortion in 60-85% of cases. With both its above 95%

Since most people do not get pregnant the first month they try the above means almost all parents have killed some kids to have the kids they do - if you believe the above.

God's will, lol. Miscarried souls go to heaven. Aborted souls go to hell.

 

[Paratus]

God's will, lol. Miscarried souls go to heaven. Aborted souls go to hell.

Interesting. So God either doesn't know which souls will be aborted or purposely sends innocent baby souls to hell to punish abortion. I wonder where in the bible this idea comes from.....

 

[dank69]

Interesting. So God either doesn't know which souls will be aborted or purposely sends innocent baby souls to hell to punish abortion. I wonder where in the bible this idea comes from.....

AFAIK the Bible only talks about how adulteresses SHOULD abort their babies and that the penalty for causing a miscarriage is in line with property damage rather than killing an actual born human.

 

[Ajay]

Yeah, not here for another abortion or religious debate. Just been watching the thread and was stuck by how things have changed. That's all.

@Paratus The simple answer is unsatisfying. I'm not smart enough or educated enough in Christian theology to make the complicated answer simple.

 

[hal2kilo]

"He is favored to win..."

I'm sure he tells his daughters to lay back and enjoy it multiple times a week. Where are the Q fucks when you need them?

Oh, you really thought they were against pedophiles.

 

[Zorba]

Oh, you really thought they were against pedophiles.

Nope, like everything else, it's projection.

 

[Paratus]

Yeah, not here for another abortion or religious debate. Just been watching the thread and was stuck by how things have changed. That's all.

@Paratus The simply answer is unsatisfying. I'm not smart enough or educated enough in Christian theology to make the complicated answer simple.

Fair enough.

 

[dainthomas]

Sounds like a 1st amendment violation to me.

Only if you're a corporation.

Senate Republicans are trying to find the Democrats responsible for this.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1524050945470083073

During Dredd Scott, the public was well aware that SC members were just politicians. We've been spoiled by a relatively long period of fairly neutral behavior (other than outliers like Bush v Gore) and somehow forgotten that.

These people are no more impartial than anyone else, and will go through any manner of mental contortions to get the result they want.

It's way past time to have rotating, limited terms.

 

[nakedfrog]

Yeah, not here for another abortion or religious debate. Just been watching the thread and was stuck by how things have changed. That's all.

@Paratus The simply answer is unsatisfying. I'm not smart enough or educated enough in Christian theology to make the complicated answer simple.

Weeeeellllll... the simple answer is: "Don't base legislation/SCOTUS decisions on Christian theology".

 

[Jaskalas]

I'm really confused by this. For the longest time in pro-life circles, we wanted to prosecute abortion providers for murder, but not women who seek them out.

They wanted to see results. Not the status quo of the past 60 years.
One cannot deny that the SCOTUS has made the new approach... effective.

 

[cytg111]

Ehm.
Question popped in.
What is this going to do to US readiness?
Not good thing I assume?

 

[esquared]

He did lose, at least, to a woman even. But by kind of a disgustingly small amount though. And he is a Q fuck, of course, aren't most people who actually want to have sex with children?

Robert Regan, tagged ‘perhaps worst candidate ever,’ loses House bid to Dem - Bridge Michigan

Democrat Carol Glanville defeated Republican Robert “RJ” Regan in a special election for a West Michigan House seat considered safely conservative. Comments on rape, QAnon and conspiratories about Jews turned off his own party.

www.bridgemi.com

This guy is a POS.

From a link in that article from his daughter , who said don't vote for him.

Michigan candidate’s daughter urges people not to vote for him in viral tweet

The daughter of a candidate running for a seat in the Michigan state House has drawn viral attention online after taking to Twitter earlier this week to plead with voters not to elect her father&nb…

thehill.com

"The only place where I really see systemic racism would be the abortion clinic cause they seem to target the African American community.”
“I don’t buy into this whole systemic racism thing at all,” he later said.

"“I’m not saying there’s not hurdles to overcome. We all have hurdles to overcome. You know, as a quote-unquote rich, white, Christian male, people look at me a certain way. And it’s not always good. So, everybody has obstacles to overcome

"He also said, unlike his daughter, he doesn’t believe white privilege exists "


Seriously WTF!
He has problems to overcome as a rich, white, Christian male???

 

[ch33zw1z]

This guy is a POS.

From a link in that article from his daughter , who said don't vote for him.

Michigan candidate’s daughter urges people not to vote for him in viral tweet

The daughter of a candidate running for a seat in the Michigan state House has drawn viral attention online after taking to Twitter earlier this week to plead with voters not to elect her father&nb…

thehill.com

"The only place where I really see systemic racism would be the abortion clinic cause they seem to target the African American community.”
“I don’t buy into this whole systemic racism thing at all,” he later said.

"“I’m not saying there’s not hurdles to overcome. We all have hurdles to overcome. You know, as a quote-unquote rich, white, Christian male, people look at me a certain way. And it’s not always good. So, everybody has obstacles to overcome

"He also said, unlike his daughter, he doesn’t believe white privilege exists "


Seriously WTF!
He has problems to overcome as a rich, white, Christian male???

yes, his problems include libtards, taxes, Jesus, other people not behaving the way he wants, kindness, empathy, cognitive dissonance, facts, systemic racism, and anything else that his little brain can come up with on a whim

 

[TheVrolok]

"“I’m not saying there’s not hurdles to overcome. We all have hurdles to overcome. You know, as a quote-unquote rich, white, Christian male, people look at me a certain way. And it’s not always good. So, everybody has obstacles to overcome

I abhor violence, but, sometimes, some folks just need a good ass kicking.

 

[sportage]

Well if Roe vs Wade is overturned, I think we still have hope.

 

[Greenman]

So I've asked this before of pro-life folks but never got a decent answer. Maybe you can educate me. If you believe that abortion kills a child and that's the primary reason not to abort how to do you reconcile all the spontaneously aborted embryos/miscarriages that parents create while trying to procreate.

In your 20's the risk is around 15%
In your 40's the risk is around 85%
Taking RU486 without the second pill only causes abortion in 60-85% of cases. With both its above 95%

Since most people do not get pregnant the first month they try the above means almost all parents have killed some kids to have the kids they do - if you believe the above.

You can do a lot better than this.
Conflating a natural phenomena with abortion is absurd. By that logic you could point out that every single person is going to die, so killing them is natural and inevitable. How can that be a crime?
Lets be honest here, abortion is about convenience. We flush those kids down the toilet because having them around would be a lot of trouble and expense. All the arguments about how many die naturally or it just being a clump of cells is what we tell ourselves so we don't feel bad about doing it.
I know what abortion is, I know the reasons why it exists. The only argument for it that holds water is that sometimes it's the lessor of two evils.

 

[fskimospy]

You can do a lot better than this.
Conflating a natural phenomena with abortion is absurd. By that logic you could point out that every single person is going to die, so killing them is natural and inevitable. How can that be a crime?
Lets be honest here, abortion is about convenience. We flush those kids down the toilet because having them around would be a lot of trouble and expense. All the arguments about how many die naturally or it just being a clump of cells is what we tell ourselves so we don't feel bad about doing it.
I know what abortion is, I know the reasons why it exists. The only argument for it that holds water is that sometimes it's the lessor of two evils.

This is not even remotely correct. We have laws on the books like manslaughter, for instance. If you undertook an action that you knew had an 85% chance of killing a person you would almost certainly be sent to prison for manslaughter even if you had no intent to kill anyone.

So I guess if pro-life people want to imprison women for manslaughter instead of murder for having sex over 40 that would be a more coherent argument - is that what you're going for?

The main problem for pro-life people is that the 'life begins at conception and deserves full legal protections' is obviously, inarguably insane. This is why they never grapple with the biology of it... they can't.