News Roe v. Wade overturned

[Fenixgoon]

Ohio has issues?

It could come to this... For real.

https://www.theonion.com/ohio-law-mandates-rape-victims-send-thank-you-notes-for-1848860173

Ohio Law Mandates Rape Victims Send Thank You Notes For Gift Of Parenthood
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COLUMBUS, OH—Eliciting both outrage and acclaim from each side of the political aisle, Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R) signed a new law Friday mandating that rape victims send thank you notes to perpetrators for the gift of parenthood. “Parenthood is God’s gift to these women, so it’s only polite that sexual assault victims rush out and write a heartfelt note the moment they discover they’re pregnant,” said state Rep. Jean Schmidt (R), sponsor and author of the new law, who emphasized that victims should mail notes no later than three days after receiving a life-changing positive pregnancy test, lest they risk coming across rude and ungrateful to their rapist. “Face-to-face interaction is preferred, but at the very least a nice greeting card is required. Throwing in a gift basket wouldn’t be overdoing it either. I recommend all Ohio women keep some stationery and postage stamps on hand, just in case, since you never know when you might need them.” At press time, Schmidt added that any pregnant children writing thank you notes should be sure to keep their handwriting neat.

I saw that headline and said to myself "this isn't the onion?"

And that speaks volumes that ab onion headline can be mistaken as reality

 

[K1052]

I saw that headline and said to myself "this isn't the onion?"

And that speaks volumes that ab onion headline can be mistaken as reality

We're basically already there in some places:

GOP candidate says he tells daughters to ‘lie back and enjoy it’ if rape is inevitable

https://wgntv.com/news/gop-candidat...-lie-back-and-enjoy-it-if-rape-is-inevitable/

 

[cytg111]

We're basically already there in some places:

GOP candidate says he tells daughters to ‘lie back and enjoy it’ if rape is inevitable

https://wgntv.com/news/gop-candidat...-lie-back-and-enjoy-it-if-rape-is-inevitable/

Remember how House Of Cards got Trumped by real-life Trump?

R.I.P. Handmaid's Tale.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Collins is just the worst

https://twitter.com/x/status/1524006887015993346

Just another snowflake.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Last decade called and said I told ya so...

Eight staggering GOP comments on rape and women - Salon.com

It's not just GOP Senate candidate Todd Akin. It's practically a party tradition

www.salon.com

 

[Muse]

Near as I can tell the R party is morally bankrupt.

 

[pmv]

Bleak and dispiriting "cross-over" story. it's like a sort of 'mash-up' of the two biggest news stories right now.

‘Declare it to a doctor, and it’s over’: Ukrainian women face harsh reality of Poland’s abortion laws

Women turn to aid groups for help, with many unaware their rights to reproductive healthcare have vanished upon crossing the border

www.theguardian.com

More than 2 million Ukrainians have found refuge in Poland since the beginning of the war in February; the vast majority are women with children. While the two countries share history, culture and a border, women’s access to reproductive healthcare is radically different.

In Ukraine, abortions are legally provided on request in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy, oral contraception is sold over the counter without prescription and the morning-after pill is readily available. In Poland, abortion is almost completely outlawed and access to contraception is ranked as the worst in Europe, according to the European Parliamentary Forum. Many doctors refuse to prescribe emergency contraception or even IUDs (intrauterine devices) on ethical grounds, arguing that they are akin to an abortion.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Bleak and dispiriting "cross-over" story. it's like a sort of 'mash-up' of the two biggest news stories right now.

‘Declare it to a doctor, and it’s over’: Ukrainian women face harsh reality of Poland’s abortion laws

Women turn to aid groups for help, with many unaware their rights to reproductive healthcare have vanished upon crossing the border

www.theguardian.com

Yep, the conservatives in Poland have been doing the same thing the conservatives here want to do. They'll be the first to complain about overpopulation too

 

[dank69]

Near as I can tell the R party is morally bankrupt.

They. Have. Been. Morally. Bankrupt. For. Decades.

 

[K1052]

Normal country stuff

https://twitter.com/x/status/1524033556216954880

 

[Ajay]

More details on Republican next steps, now that they've apparently gotten rid of Roe:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1522044847254872064

I'm really confused by this. For the longest time in pro-life circles, we wanted to prosecute abortion providers for murder, but not women who seek them out.
Maybe it's because I live in the north east, but something has really changed over time. There wasn't any impetus to investigate every miscarriage as a possible abortion (which is logistically impossible anyway).
It's getting pretty crazy, IMHO, even for us 'old school' pro-lifers.

 

[K1052]

I'm really confused by this. For the longest time in pro-life circles, we wanted to prosecute abortion providers for murder, but not women who seek them out.
Maybe it's because I live in the north east, but something has really changed over time. There wasn't any impetus to investigate every miscarriage as a possible abortion (which is logistically impossible anyway).
It's getting pretty crazy, IMHO, even for us 'old school' pro-lifers.

Wait till states start tracking the cycles of female residents and geolocating their phones.

 

[dank69]

I'm really confused by this. For the longest time in pro-life circles, we wanted to prosecute abortion providers for murder, but not women who seek them out.
Maybe it's because I live in the north east, but something has really changed over time. There wasn't any impetus to investigate every miscarriage as a possible abortion (which is logistically impossible anyway).
It's getting pretty crazy, IMHO, even for us 'old school' pro-lifers.

I'd keep your head down because they are going to start rolling soon.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Normal country stuff

https://twitter.com/x/status/1524033556216954880

I don't want to live in this planet anymore

 

[JD50]

I'm really confused by this. For the longest time in pro-life circles, we wanted to prosecute abortion providers for murder, but not women who seek them out.
Maybe it's because I live in the north east, but something has really changed over time. There wasn't any impetus to investigate every miscarriage as a possible abortion (which is logistically impossible anyway).
It's getting pretty crazy, IMHO, even for us 'old school' pro-lifers.

You "old school pro-lifers" set the ground work for this.

 

[hal2kilo]

The right in Texas is already proposing to make it a criminal act to leave Texas to get an abortion. As well as making it a crime to donate or be an organization that helps women go out of state to get abortion.

Sounds like a 1st amendment violation to me.

 

[hal2kilo]

And no process to accomplish it.


Let us be clear here: Republicans have a platform. They are just not telling it to us because it is terribly unpopular.
They also have a clear plan to accomplish it, and are doing so.




There is a lot of people that vote democrat that are pissed off at the Party for letting this happen. They all feel that they voted these assholes in to keep just this sort of thing happening, and they failed. Instead they bickered amongst themselves about which companies should get rich. They refused to do what was needed to pass literally any reform, and while they were doing that the Republicans managed to accomplish their primary platform goal.

To most the Democrats are looking less then simply ineffective and more like keystone cops. Dancing around looking foolish while the crooks steal their wallets.
The Democratic party needs a reformation. They are currently useless. They are actually worse than useless, while they act incompetent the Republicans are getting results. Instead of reform we have gotten excuses. We need to let them know that excuses are not enough. The only way to do that is at the polls.

The idea here is that the Republicans are winning anyway. If we keep going the way we are they will eventually accomplish their every goal, but if we force a reformation in the Democratic party maybe in a decade or two they will actually accomplish something.

And sure the Republican might destroy or democracy, but let's face it they are going to do that anyway because the Democrats are not willing to stop them.

A year of investigations have revealed that the coup only failed because to many Republicans didn't really commit to it. Since those that did commit to it are not going to face any consequences, why would anyone not commit next time?


And this is basically the best we can expect them to get. They are only going to lose seats from here.
Here is a prediction: If the Republicans find themselves in the exact same situation the Democrats are in now in 2024 they will still manage to pass nearly every one of their priority items.

So voting for Republicans solves any of this? Logic not found. Vote!

 

[brycejones]

Normal country stuff

https://twitter.com/x/status/1524033556216954880

Those amoral women should have prepared better for their miscarriage or been better people so they didn't face god's punishment.


/s

Some deeper context:

DU MEZ: You're right. It does not. Now, there is a minority of evangelicals - of white evangelicals who do embrace this holistic life commitment, including the death penalty and pro gun legislation and pro health care - universal health care. But that is a definite minority. Among many white evangelicals, their moral system is one that really embraces an individualistic ethos or ethic, really. And so they will say this is a life of a human being, and it's just a clear-cut case, and it is an innocent life. And so in cases like the death penalty or even in - sometimes, this is extended to discussions of health care - well, if you had been more responsible, if you had higher income, if you - you know, there are things you could have done here, whereas abortion - it seems very simple or even simplistic.

But I should also add that we need to understand how abortion is also situated in terms of evangelical gender ideals. And for evangelicals - conservative evangelicals, gender difference is really foundational to their understanding of the social order. And they believe that God created men and women to be very different, even opposites. And the women's primary calling is that of wife and mother. And so abortion also really severs that kind of biological or social relationship - or threatens to do so. And for that reason also, abortion is such a priority for evangelicals because it kind of strikes at the heart of their understanding of women and men and their understanding of how God has ordered society.

The Road To Overturning Roe v. Wade : Consider This from NPR

Earlier this week, a leaked draft opinion from the Supreme Court suggested that after nearly 50 years, the court intends to overturn Roe v. Wade, the 1973 decision that legalized abortion nationwide. Almost as soon as abortions became legal, opponents began organizing efforts to repeal the law...

www.npr.org

 

[dainthomas]

Wait till states start tracking the cycles of female residents and geolocating their phones.

Anyone who uses an app to track it needs to stop. The government could subpoena those records.

 

[nakedfrog]

I'm really confused by this. For the longest time in pro-life circles, we wanted to prosecute abortion providers for murder, but not women who seek them out.
Maybe it's because I live in the north east, but something has really changed over time. There wasn't any impetus to investigate every miscarriage as a possible abortion (which is logistically impossible anyway).
It's getting pretty crazy, IMHO, even for us 'old school' pro-lifers.

Pro-forced-birthers.

 

[hal2kilo]

Pro-forced-birthers.

How else are you going to fix the replacement problem? /s

 

[Meghan54]

Yep, the conservatives in Poland have been doing the same thing the conservatives here want to do. They'll be the first to complain about overpopulation too

What do you mean they'll be the first? Every time immigration comes up, conservatives always chime in the country's too populated to accept immigrants. Every. Fucking. Time.

Been going on forever from that ilk.

 

[Commodus]

I'm really confused by this. For the longest time in pro-life circles, we wanted to prosecute abortion providers for murder, but not women who seek them out.
Maybe it's because I live in the north east, but something has really changed over time. There wasn't any impetus to investigate every miscarriage as a possible abortion (which is logistically impossible anyway).
It's getting pretty crazy, IMHO, even for us 'old school' pro-lifers.

For many supporting politicians and voters, if not most, it's not about being "pro-life." It's about controlling women and making them suffer. It's about using abortion to manipulate people into voting against their best interests. It's certainly not about the children, since the most adamant pro-lifers often hate education, social assistance programs and low-income wage improvements.

That's why people who genuinely care about human life don't get hung up on abortion. None of us in the pro-choice camp want to see a surge in abortions; we just understand that being truly compassionate means caring about women and born children, not obsessing over fetuses. We know abortion isn't a first resort and should always be taken seriously, but it should remain an option so that women always have control over when and how they start a family.

 

[KMFJD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1523833745937252354

Louisiana is of the rails

 

[nakedfrog]

For many supporting politicians and voters, if not most, it's not about being "pro-life." It's about controlling women and making them suffer. It's about using abortion to manipulate people into voting against their best interests. It's certainly not about the children, since the most adamant pro-lifers often hate education, social assistance programs and low-income wage improvements.

That's why people who genuinely care about human life don't get hung up on abortion. None of us in the pro-choice camp want to see a surge in abortions; we just understand that being truly compassionate means caring about women and born children, not obsessing over fetuses. We know abortion isn't a first resort and should always be taken seriously, but it should remain an option so that women always have control over when and how they start a family.

And let's not forget that the way to actually reduce abortions is improved sex education and easy/free access to birth control options.