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Moonbeam

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Your commentary has been repeatedly rejected by more than just me on these boards, and yet you still haven't gotten it through your thick skull that nobody here cares or is listening to your self-proclaimed 'wisdom'.
No kidding. Perhaps your views on the SCOTUS aren't having much effect either. Seems the most energized by the news are Republicans who now have more impetus to get out and vote now compared to Democrats than before the news of the impending decision broke. Maybe people vote for what appeals to them than they will vote against what they don't like. Maybe the more hatred is repressed the more one is beset by fatalism. Why get even for hating yourself when you can get what you feel you deserve. Ignorance has a price.

 

NWRMidnight

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No kidding. Perhaps your views on the SCOTUS aren't having much effect either. Seems the most energized by the news are Republicans who now have more impetus to get out and vote now compared to Democrats than before the news of the impending decision broke. Maybe people vote for what appeals to them than they will vote against what they don't like. Maybe the more hatred is repressed the more one is beset by fatalism. Why get even for hating yourself when you can get what you feel you deserve. Ignorance has a price.

The leak is the only thing that has energized the Republican's. It's not even been a week since the leak, and most non Republican's are processing what it all means (not that it was leaked), and it's to damn early to have any rational idea on how it will effect midterms. Specially since votes don't get cast for another 6 months. Any current polls are just knee jerk reaction polls with no real thought behind it.. It's like trying to argue that an announcement made just before a 500 lap race doesn't show to have any effect on the outcome of that race.. WTF! We have 6 months to go, and this is just getting started.
 
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The leak is the only thing that has energized the Republican's. It's not even been a week since the leak, and most non Republican's are processing what it all means (not that it was leaked), and it's to damn early to have any rational idea on how it will effect midterms. Specially since votes don't get cast for another 6 months. Any current polls are just knee jerk reaction polls with no real thought behind it.. It's like trying to argue that an announcement made just before a 500 lap race doesn't show to have any effect on the outcome of that race.. WTF! We have 6 months to go, and this is just getting started.

To be fair, that matters little, come time the wartime GQP propaganda machine will inject a pedophile mickey mouse into the base and get them riled up again just in time to make the coup stick.
The image of you as child raping child killing demons is a grip so tight.. you'd need psychedelics to loosen it.
It looks bleak.
 
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Moonbeam

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Interesting that you blame the young, healthy people, when it's actually the older people who have the attitude that I am not going to support others, have the misconception that UHC will cost them all they worked for in life, and cost them more going forward with the attitude "I had to work for it all, so you have to work for it all be damned", regardless what's right for humanity and society as a whole. Who spend decades trying to manipulate and program the younger generation to think the same. It's propaganda and lies like you are trying to present here, throwing false facts as you ignore the truth that has lead us to where we are today. It's the older people who are voting, it's the older people who are in political positions that are destroying this country with their old ways of thinking and their closed minds, not the younger people. The Exception we had a flux of younger generation who came out and vote this past election to help remove Trump for various reason. Most young people stay out of politics, don't vote and really don't care until they are older and gain some maturity, because they don't understand and don't realize just how important being involved in such matters are. So, where are you getting this Young people crap?

69% of young Americans favor national single payer healthcare. 32% said they were sure to vote. From a 2018 poll. My comment relates to this. I did not intend to deny what you said nor affirm what @Jaskalas said. My point is that when young people fail to vote they have an effect of elections, obviously, but your charity toward that group for their failure to vote is hypocritical.

What you did was to blame older people who are programmed to do what they do and are machines to which no blame can be assigned. They are a cause, a gear that turns as it turns in a machine. They are no more to blame for the people they program than the people who programmed them, nor are the young to be blamed because they don't vote. With the intention to blame goes the presence of the feeling of guilt. Perhaps you didn't vote when you were young. I did. Does that make me great. Does that make me better than those who are programmed. I dealt early with my programming because I was forced to by pain I could not suppress. Why, I have no idea. Certainly no virtue on my part I can see. An accident perhaps, luck, grace, whatever the reason I am grateful for it.

Is not voting his reasoning? nope! Is the younger generation not voting the cause of it.. nope! Did he even bring up voting? Nope! I did to show him why his blame on the younger generation is bullshit!

As I said above, not what I denied as factual.

Specially since the younger generation doesn't fully understand what's at stake because they are still learning and educating themselves because most of that education comes with time and experience from adulting.

You can't at once forgive one group for this and blame similarly programmed group, programmed also at a young age, for doing this. Well you can but as I said it's hypocritical.

So, STFU unless you are actually paying attention to what is being said and understand the context. You are just as bad as he is about trying to pass on false manipulation as facts, try and manipulate who's at fault, and taking things out of context to manipulate it into something other than what it is pertaining to, and frankly I am not in the mood for It!

As I said was aware of what was said and the context, none of which I intended to affirm or deny. When you claim not to be in the mood for something you should ask yourself what the state your mood reveals about your inner condition to people who have experienced and laughed at themselves for such moods. There is no one you can blame for anything other than your own inner capacity to become addled by external events.
 

Moonbeam

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The leak is the only thing that has energized the Republican's. It's not even been a week since the leak, and most non Republican's are processing what it all means (not that it was leaked), and it's to damn early to have any rational idea on how it will effect midterms. Specially since votes don't get cast for another 6 months. Any current polls are just knee jerk reaction polls with no real thought behind it.. It's like trying to argue that an announcement made just before a 500 lap race doesn't show to have any effect on the outcome of that race.. WTF! We have 6 months to go, and this is just getting started.
To be fair, that matters little, come time the wartime GQP propaganda machine will inject a pedophile mickey mouse into the base and get them riled up again just in time to make the coup stick.
The image of you as child raping child killing demons is a grip so tight.. you'd need psychedelics to loosen it.
It looks bleak.
I think there is truth in both comments. I had no intention to imply that the poll was anything other than potentially accurate today. I am fully aware that polls change. The right is already on damage control in a big way.
 

cytg111

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I think there is truth in both comments. I had no intention to imply that the poll was anything other than potentially accurate today. I am fully aware that polls change. The right is already on damage control in a big way.

So. What is your idea to counter the brainwashing on the right - in an effort to block them from taking house/senate come fall? The presidency 2024? To end the experiment?

More love?
 

NWRMidnight

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69% of young Americans favor national single payer healthcare. 32% said they were sure to vote. From a 2018 poll. My comment relates to this. I did not intend to deny what you said nor affirm what @Jaskalas said. My point is that when young people fail to vote they have an effect of elections, obviously, but your charity toward that group for their failure to vote is hypocritical.

What you did was to blame older people who are programmed to do what they do and are machines to which no blame can be assigned. They are a cause, a gear that turns as it turns in a machine. They are no more to blame for the people they program than the people who programmed them, nor are the young to be blamed because they don't vote. With the intention to blame goes the presence of the feeling of guilt. Perhaps you didn't vote when you were young. I did. Does that make me great. Does that make me better than those who are programmed. I dealt early with my programming because I was forced to by pain I could not suppress. Why, I have no idea. Certainly no virtue on my part I can see. An accident perhaps, luck, grace, whatever the reason I am grateful for it.



As I said above, not what I denied as factual.



You can't at once forgive one group for this and blame similarly programmed group, programmed also at a young age, for doing this. Well you can but as I said it's hypocritical.



As I said was aware of what was said and the context, none of which I intended to affirm or deny. When you claim not to be in the mood for something you should ask yourself what the state your mood reveals about your inner condition to people who have experienced and laughed at themselves for such moods. There is no one you can blame for anything other than your own inner capacity to become addled by external events.
If you where not trying to affirm or deny what @Jackalas said, than why the one liner that did just that? What was the purpose of that post, if you had no intentions of doing just that, with no context?

How did your one liner relate to this unknown context, not even by you, till after the fact? Answer: It's just an attempt to substantiate your one liner that was taken out of context, that implied you agree with @Jackasas. Even though you try to paint a different picture, and even trying to substantiate otherwise and say that the younger generation isn't to blame because they don't vote.. It's a good thing you have google, which allowed you to search for information so you can respond back to me, make up some context that you claim you where referring to, even though such information wasn't even know by you, until you googled it after the fact. This is called back peddling to save face.

The problem is, you really come across contradictive in your response after throwing up your statistics.. To the point you try to take blame away from the young and old, even though you threw up statistics about the younger generation and them voting. All while trying to make some implied personal attack with the belief I didn't vote when I was younger, which is not what I said, nor factual. Not that you would know anything about what I did when I was younger.. The facts that the younger generation doesn't vote, and why has nothing to do with me, my personal experience, you, or your personal experience. The fact that you attempted not once, but twice to make this personal rather than grasping the essence of why I am not in the mood to for your bullshit show just how stupid you are, and your response just confirms such bullshit.

In the end, it's intellectual laziness and pure ignorance to believe the younger generation, is in the same category as the older experienced generation, and somehow neither is to blame because of "programming", as if the programming doesn't come from the older generation and change starts with them.
 

Moonbeam

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If you where not trying to affirm or deny what @Jackalas said, than why the one liner that did just that? What was the purpose of that post, if you had no intentions of doing just that, with no context?

How did your one liner relate to this unknown context, not even by you, till after the fact? Answer: It's just an attempt to substantiate your one liner that was taken out of context, that implied you agree with @Jackasas. Even though you try to paint a different picture, and even trying to substantiate otherwise and say that the younger generation isn't to blame because they don't vote.. It's a good thing you have google, which allowed you to search for information so you can respond back to me, make up some context that you claim you where referring to, even though such information wasn't even know by you, until you googled it after the fact. This is called back peddling to save face.

The problem is, you really come across contradictive in your response after throwing up your statistics.. To the point you try to take blame away from the young and old, even though you threw up statistics about the younger generation and them voting. All while trying to make some implied personal attack with the belief I didn't vote when I was younger, which is not what I said, nor factual. Not that you would know anything about what I did when I was younger.. The facts that the younger generation doesn't vote, and why has nothing to do with me, my personal experience, you, or your personal experience. The fact that you attempted not once, but twice to make this personal rather than grasping the essence of why I am not in the mood to for your bullshit show just how stupid you are, and your response just confirms such bullshit.

In the end, it's intellectual laziness and pure ignorance to believe the younger generation, is in the same category as the older experienced generation, and somehow neither is to blame because of "programming", as if the programming doesn't come from the older generation and change starts with them.
I was aware when I posted you would likely feel this way. I am quite impressed with the vigor and logic you have expressed here to challenge my effort to provide the context I expressed in explaining my different focus. I have heard the argument Jaskalas made many times before from different sources. The peeve I have is that young people don’t vote. But as I said, there is no one to blame. Glad to hear you woke up early and voted. I suggested a possible reason for your defense and left it up to you to question yourself.

I an indifferent to whether you felt guilty or not because I don’t attach blame if you were. Humanity is asleep. I am only awake, like all others, to the extent of my self awareness, pathetic though it may be.

Best conversation I have had in a while. Usually I get all of the intellectual brilliance one can pack into 😆
 

Moonbeam

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So. What is your idea to counter the brainwashing on the right - in an effort to block them from taking house/senate come fall? The presidency 2024? To end the experiment?

More love?
More consciousness. You seek a solution to a problem that does not exist so to which there can be no solution. The situation is hopeless. There is nothing anybody can do. If you love you will not feel a need to change anything. Only there are you free. Nowhere to go, nothing to do, only the joy of being. Only you can awaken. I can counter nothing for you but you can. Thought you should know. Only you can awaken, whoever you are. If you stop externalizing the problem your ego can die from lack of sustenance.
 
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NWRMidnight

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I was aware when I posted you would likely feel this way. I am quite impressed with the vigor and logic you have expressed here to challenge my effort to provide the context I expressed in explaining my different focus. I have heard the argument Jaskalas made many times before from different sources. The peeve I have is that young people don’t vote. But as I said, there is no one to blame. Glad to hear you woke up early and voted. I suggested a possible reason for your defense and left it up to you to question yourself.

I an indifferent to whether you felt guilty or not because I don’t attach blame if you were. Humanity is asleep. I am only awake, like all others, to the extent of my self awareness, pathetic though it may be.

Best conversation I have had in a while. Usually I get all of the intellectual brilliance one can pack into 😆
so you are deliberately posting bullshit and admitting to it.. "I was aware when I posted you would feel this way"... you are trolling.. Otherwise you would have posted such context with your one liner, rather than back tracking and trying to substantiate your bullshit. And then you go on and try to play some manipulation of "I suggested a possible reason for your defense"... blah blah blah.. the good old trolling and baiting game.. and you indirectly admitted to it.

Funny how you are still stuck making comments on how you think you know why, or how I feel, and there is some guilt, or assumption of guilt that you seem to think I have.. yet your response is centered about making it personal towards me, even though you tried to deflect such truth, because you say you are indifferent, all though you are the one making such claims towards me, and nothing about that actual discussion about old/young and who's responsible for what.

You aren't here to have an intellectual conversation, you are here to manipulate bait and troll.. just more of the same bullshit manipulation of the truth.

IF you aren't here to bait and troll, how about you give an honest argument that supports the older generation isn't responsible when they are the ones programming the younger generation, the ones holding office, the ones making legislation, etc. Or at least come up with something that shows that the younger generation does vote, and I am full of shit about the majority of them not voting.. oh wait, your own statistics you googled, demonstrate they don't vote. OR are you full of shit, and your only argument is to keep making this personal, because you don't have a legitimate argument other than to focus on your projections on who, what, how, I am feeling or reacting?
 
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so you are deliberately posting bullshit and admitting to it.. "I was aware when I posted you would feel this way"... you are trolling.. Otherwise you would have posted such context with your one liner, rather than back tracking and trying to substantiate your bullshit. And then you go on and try to play some manipulation of "I suggested a possible reason for your defense"... blah blah blah.. the good old trolling and baiting game.. and you indirectly admitted to it.
What I said was that I knew you would LIKELY feel as you did. That is nothing personal but based on my insight into how the ego reacts to things with most people having way way too much ego. What you call backtracking was me trying to tell you that the important point you made, in my opinion, was not that they don't care about health care but that they too seldom show up to vote to support it and that the reason they don't is ingrained in our political system. Ideology is based on conditioning and our system if full of it with one group no better or worse than any other contrary to your claim it's old people's fault. What I admit to is indifference to that fact that I might offend your ego.

Funny how you are still stuck making comments on how you think you know why, or how I feel, and there is some guilt, or assumption of guilt that you seem to think I have.. yet your response is centered about making it personal towards me, even though you tried to deflect such truth, because you say you are indifferent, all though you are the one making such claims towards me, and nothing about that actual discussion about old/young and who's responsible for what.

As I said, the focus of attention, in my opinion, ought to be that young people don't vote which means that the old people who realize why they don't should do more to tell them such behavior is self defeating. You, yourself, however, can just stick with blaming old people as a group if you want to.

You aren't here to have an intellectual conversation, you are here to manipulate bait and troll.. just more of the same bullshit manipulation of the truth.

And yet here I am doing what I can to help you past that perception. Willing to try, indifferent to success.

IF you aren't here to bait and troll, how about you give an honest argument that supports the older generation isn't responsible when they are the ones programming the younger generation, the ones holding office, the ones making legislation, etc. Or at least come up with something that shows that the younger generation does vote, and I am full of shit about the majority of them not voting.. oh wait, your own statistics you googled, demonstrate they don't vote. OR are you full of shit, and your only argument is to keep making this personal, because you don't have a legitimate argument other than to focus on your projections on who, what, how, I am feeling or reacting?

I can do so but that does not guarantee you will agree since what I know is based on experiences you may or may not have had. You can't put an old head on young shoulders, if you know what I mean.

Humanity is asleep living upside down and backward to reality. We are caught in the delusion of Maya if I have my Indian based insight into this correct. We are trapped in the illusion of good and evil when they in fact do not exist. The human capacity to use language created the ability to think symbolically, to be able to connect emotional content to words related to experience. We were conditioned in this way by being put down as children to see ourselves as sinful when we acted against group imposed norms, norms that are the product of duality and have no fundamental reality but the only reality we now know.

In short we are all trapped by and doomed to fall under the sway of thought which is fear which is hate, one generation programming the next. Generations unborn will be blaming you for the ills we presently create. And all because we are afraid to challenge our programming, to struggle to awaken because it will take us back to memories where we died psychic deaths in order to survive the torment of our programming. We are all victims of outrageous torture we are terrified to remember.

As to young people opposing health care. I mentioned that the points made by Jackalas are not strange to my ears. Do you remember when Obama care first passed. There was originally an individual mandate that you were required to pay that was very unpopular and was deemed illegal. The word at the time as I remember was that it was also very unpopular among the young because they didn't see themselves as needing healthcare and were forced to pay for somebody else. The following is not broken down by age so I am going from what I remember coming from young people circa 2016.


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What I said was that I knew you would LIKELY feel as you did. That is nothing personal but based on my insight into how the ego reacts to things with most people having way way too much ego. What you call backtracking was me trying to tell you that the important point you made, in my opinion, was not that they don't care about health care but that they too seldom show up to vote to support it and that the reason they don't is ingrained in our political system. Ideology is based on conditioning and our system if full of it with one group no better or worse than any other contrary to your claim it's old people's fault. What I admit to is indifference to that fact that I might offend your ego.



As I said, the focus of attention, in my opinion, ought to be that young people don't vote which means that the old people who realize why they don't should do more to tell them such behavior is self defeating. You, yourself, however, can just stick with blaming old people as a group if you want to.



And yet here I am doing what I can to help you past that perception. Willing to try, indifferent to success.



I can do so but that does not guarantee you will agree since what I know is based on experiences you may or may not have had. You can't put an old head on young shoulders, if you know what I mean.

Humanity is asleep living upside down and backward to reality. We are caught in the delusion of Maya if I have my Indian based insight into this correct. We are trapped in the illusion of good and evil when they in fact do not exist. The human capacity to use language created the ability to think symbolically, to be able to connect emotional content to words related to experience. We were conditioned in this way by being put down as children to see ourselves as sinful when we acted against group imposed norms, norms that are the product of duality and have no fundamental reality but the only reality we now know.

In short we are all trapped by and doomed to fall under the sway of thought which is fear which is hate, one generation programming the next. Generations unborn will be blaming you for the ills we presently create. And all because we are afraid to challenge our programming, to struggle to awaken because it will take us back to memories where we died psychic deaths in order to survive the torment of our programming. We are all victims of outrageous torture we are terrified to remember.

As to young people opposing health care. I mentioned that the points made by Jackalas are not strange to my ears. Do you remember when Obama care first passed. There was originally an individual mandate that you were required to pay that was very unpopular and was deemed illegal. The word at the time as I remember was that it was also very unpopular among the young because they didn't see themselves as needing healthcare and were forced to pay for somebody else. The following is not broken down by age so I am going from what I remember coming from young people circa 2016.


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So funny how those views change when the shit hits YOUR fan.. :p

 

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So funny how those views change when the shit hits YOUR fan.. :p [/QUOTE]

One thing I don't see having changed about the guy in your link is that he was and still is a dick head whose only thoughts in the world are what is best for him. The conservative in me says let him lie in the bed he made. It's how you learn personal responsibility. Of course, that potentially will change if I find myself in hard times. Buddy, can you spare a dime.
 

sportage

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I guess it doesn't matter whether 59%, 69% or whatever want to keep legalized abortion when those same people keep voting for a party that does not want to keep legalized abortion. Im beginning to believe that a true majority of America in fact do want to ban abortion or at least do support to scuttle Roe vs Wade regardless of what they tell pollsters.

And, I'd like to know whats up with Bill Maher?
He's fast turning full blown republican.
Bill doesn't share the outrage from the pro choice, and said it really doesn't matter since most in-clinic abortions are performed via drugs, not a physical procedure.
He feels pro choice are comparing todays aborting technology with that of 50 years ago and thus the technical act of abortion can be handled at home and with a pill.
And Bill has been ranting over other progressive issues, stances, ever since he had his big issues with installing solar power into his home. Seems it took Bill two years of fighting local and state regulations just to get his 5 by 5 solar control shed installed and approved. Ever since his ordeal, Bill has been very anti progressive. If Trump runs again, I expect Maher to support Trump and republican anti regulation platforms.
Beside, Bill isn't funny anymore. I think pot addiction has dulled his creative abilities making him boring. And worst, he still thinks he's funny. So sad.

But enough about Bill.
I thought abortion would give democrats the advantage they need for the midterms, but now I believe quite the opposite will occur.
Yes, the high court purposely leaked their ruling, however if they wanted the world to know their decision beforehand then it really wasn't leaking, now was it?
A ground breaking ruling this huge had to be released i.e. leaked beforehand just to see if riots would break out, mass looting would occur, and police cars would be toppled then set on fire. Remember, the justices released this ruling with a hint of uncertainty. Released claiming it only "a draft" thus to temper the reactions. So yes, the justices knew exactly what they were doing and exactly how this ruling must be "first tested" on the public. Then, come June, the real ruling will be officially released, worded exactly as worded in the so called draft.

What I want to know is, will the high courts "little performance", their attempt at acting, earn them an academy awards nomination? And if they win, will all nine justices go on stage to accept the award?

AND FOR THE BEST PERFORMANCE FROM A US SUPREME COURT, THE NOMINEES ARE....
 
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Seems kinda upset people are noticing conservatives on the court are full of shit and are just doing what they want.



Interesting - so tell us Uncle Thomas, what does not recusing ourselves from blatant conflicts of interest mean? What does it mean to have perjurers decide law?

The level of infantile projection from right wing justices is giving GQP senators serious competition, wow.

We have to expand this court if we want it to have any credibility. Period.
 
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Zorba

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Banning birth control polls at sub 10% level support. Conservatives are actively engaging with many oppressive insanely low approval policies.

I hope he does. Ban birth control! Turn Mississippi blue.

Abortion has so many wedge points it's a little harder to really get prior to vote against their team. BC has basically zero wedge points and nearly ever sexually active person in the US has some experience with it.
 
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I hope he does. Ban birth control! Turn Mississippi blue.

Abortion has so many wedge points it's a little harder to really get prior to vote against their team. BC has basically zero wedge points and nearly ever sexually active person in the US has some experience with it.

Most of the laws percolating are no-exception ones so inevitably we're going to get GOP politicians explaining their position of how making somebody who was subjected to an incestuous rape carry a child to term is actually a good thing. Something very very few Americans actually agree with.
 

kage69

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Rational, non regressive people standing up to religious tyranny from the minority have a new flag here I think.

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sportage

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In all truth, republicans have never been for civil rights or improving the life of the individual. They don't like social security, they don't like medicare, they don't like food assistance programs, they don't like unions that strengthens our middle class, republicans don't like immigrants and especially immigrants seeking a better life, the list goes on and on. So WHY, all of a sudden, are republicans so hell bent concerned about the unborn child? What are they really up to? Is it a control thing? I don't buy this protecting the unborn child crapola because it goes against everything we already know about republicans. Their history. Their resistance against the social safety nets and resistance against unions. What is their true controlling factor?
 

Pohemi

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....Is it a control thing?....
Yes. That's all it is, that's why you see/hear so much about them caring only for the unborn fetuses and not at all about the child after it exits the womb. They give no fucks about the health and safety of children and their mothers, only controlling and limiting the choice of the mother between conception and birth.
 
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Banning birth control polls at sub 10% level support. Conservatives are actively engaging with many oppressive insanely low approval policies.


Arizona Senate candidate and Idaho Republican joins in on banning contraception.



It's amazing all these Republican males can stick their dicks in anything they want with no repercussion's. Maybe consider mandatory vasectomies for Republican male children and castration for adult males. Just consider mind you. What's next - tracking women’s periods to punish those who they perceive MIGHT be seeking a termination.

Maybe...


Even if contraception is banned. It will be available to the rich because, if their mistresses need it, they will get it. Same for abortions. As we speak some rich Baptist Christian "little princess" just got gang banged and knocked up at a party by some kid she doesn't even know - And will need an abortion because he doesn't want his precious little girls life to be "ruined". Or as we speak some rich Texas oil baron just knocked up his mistress and needs an abortion so HIS life and finances won't be destroyed.

All those that self-described ‘conservatives’ deem it necessary to vet despite otherwise being opposed to having government intrude on the private lives of citizens who may have their lives destroyed. The paradox is lost in the weeping and wailing over the moral panic of lost souls. Pro Choice means “I was born with these parts and their capacities and they are a part of me, and I am not a resource for public consideration. You don’t get to decide; I do!”
 

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Whoever leaked the draft likely is not on the liberal side of the court. Conservative infighting and disagreements a much more likely culprit.


I think now I'm going with Ginni Thomas as the leaker and that this may be another “own the libs” opportunity.

Also the irony and hypocrisy run amok...


Clarence Thomas - The Supreme Court “can’t be an institution that can be bullied into giving you just the outcomes you want"

Says the guy who's wife tried to overturn an election.