News Roe v. Wade overturned

[gothuevos]

Not to derail the thread too much, but the GOP feels super liberated now to cross off all the items on their bucket list:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1522018267208069120

 

[A///]

Was that not about kindergarten/preschool? I wonder if Abbott is aware Hitler would have had him killed for being in a wheelchair.

 

[A///]

I'm not a lawyer by trade, but could liberal states sue the federal government and drop out from having to fork over cash to poor red states?

 

[nickqt]

I'm not a lawyer by trade, but could liberal states sue the federal government and drop out from having to fork over cash to poor red states?

I mean, yeah. I'll just drop this off here, yet again.

Democrats Should Weaponize Federalism

If Democrats truly believe in the power of their policies, they should be ready to weaponize federalism.

www.politicalorphans.com

 

[zinfamous]

Isn't Oregon mostly a GOP shithole outside of Portland and Beaver Town?

Also, it's the only state/region/principality/country/whatever that I know of that was founded and dedicated explicitly on the foundations of white supremacy, to create a pure, Christian, white utopia, free from the machinations of those Eastern Devils.

 

[nOOky]

States bordering Texas such as Oklahoma are already receiving an influx of out of state abortion seekers. I am old enough to remember the horror stories of botched abortions using coat hangers in dark rooms by unlicensed people. It's fairly fucking medieval to have a country that not only does not progress, but goes backwards. Instead of talking about better health care for all, we're moving in the opposite direction, which is the wrong direction for a supposedly free civilized country. Sad, very sad.

 

[K1052]

Biden should get the FDA to make mifepristone and misoprostol available OTC.

 

[K1052]

Symbolism getting a little heavy handed lately.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1522171676401803264

 

[Viper1j]

I just had to chime in on what Laura Ingraham said on Fox news tonight.
Ingraham actually said that women are "too smart" to decide what is best for their body. Women are "too smart" make decisions addressing their own healthcare, their own well being.
Women are too smart to know what is best for their reproductive rights..
Try to wrap you mind around THAT if you can.
And so, according to Laura Ingraham speaking on her Fox show, it takes a man to make those decisions for a woman since a woman can not make those decisions because women are too smart.

You know why women across the country are outraged over this Trump supreme court?
Because women across the country have the right to be outraged over this Trump supreme court despite what Laura Ingraham thinks.
Gee, and Ingranam looks so convincing... for a man.

Laura has a dick.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Symbolism getting a little heavy handed lately.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1522171676401803264

I know it's not really the point, but am I seeing this right? Do those really just lift straight upward? Not a very good barrier for a mob if so.

 

[K1052]

I know it's not really the point, but am I seeing this right? Do those really just lift straight upward? Not a very good barrier for a mob if so.
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I assume there is some way to lock the panel in place that is not visible.

 

[dank69]

...
Edit: I don't remember, but are we allowed to curse?

Fuck yeah!

 

[dank69]

Privacy matters:

 

[conehead433]

So every member of Congress can just go home. The SC can legislate from the bench. Congress can just meet to decide on budget or war. It's definitely time to end the filibuster or we'll have minority rules forever.

 

[gothuevos]

Gotta say...this plus the push to end public schools (guess that will happen this decade too) has me second guessing if even 2-3 generations from now will be able to pull out of this. Once the schools are fully privatized, they can indoctrinate at will from a young age.

So they control the highest court, most/all levers of govt and then the schools.

This is what some would call a permanent victory.

 

[cytg111]

Now is the time to collect data from doctors all over, have you been of service to a

Symbolism getting a little heavy handed lately.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1522171676401803264

Yea maybe you're fucking up if you need a moat with gators to shield you from the people of whom you are "serving".

 

[gothuevos]

So every member of Congress can just go home. The SC can legislate from the bench. Congress can just meet to decide on budget or war. It's definitely time to end the filibuster or we'll have minority rules forever.

Would an end to the filibuster even matter? This SCOTUS is basically in charge and would strike down whatever they want.

 

[fskimospy]

Gotta say...this plus the push to end public schools (guess that will happen this decade too) has me second guessing if even 2-3 generations from now will be able to pull out of this. Once the schools are fully privatized, they can indoctrinate at will from a young age.

So they control the highest court, most/all levers of govt and then the schools.

This is what some would call a permanent victory.

Ooh, now we’re up to three generations.

By next week you’re going to be like ‘this Republican statement on Tucker Carlson Tonight shows the republicans shall rule for 3,500 years as did as god emperor Leto II Atreides’.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Would an end to the filibuster even matter? This SCOTUS is basically in charge and would strike down whatever they want.

Senate is free to enact any laws they see fit (that passes veto muster). SC can't 'decide' to make abortion illegal if senate literally enshrines it into law/constitution.

 

[fskimospy]

Senate is free to enact any laws they see fit (that passes veto muster). SC can't 'decide' to make abortion illegal if senate literally enshrines it into law/constitution.

I think you’re underestimating SCOTUS. If the senate passed a law to protect abortion rights it’s entirely possible SCOTUS would strike it down saying it intrudes on state sovereignty or whatever.

This is why we should expand the court. It’s time to reign in a lawless branch of government.

 

[gothuevos]

Ooh, now we’re up to three generations.

By next week you’re going to be like ‘this Republican statement on Tucker Carlson Tonight shows the republicans shall rule for 3,500 years as did as god emperor Leto II Atreides’.

Then please explain to me how when one party controls that much and holds that much power over everyone's lives, how that can be overcome.

And please don't say "by voting" because that too, soon, will be useless.

Should we just balkanize?

 

[sdifox]

Seems people hear what they want. If Roe vs Wade gets overturned, it will not end abortion. It would leave it up to the states. how is that bad? If the majority of people in a state want it one way, thats how they will vote and what they will get. I am pro-choice with some restrictions (i think an abortion up until birth should not be legal for example). If the majority of people in a state want abortion to be legal up until the moment of birth, they can have that. Abortion is NOT in the constitution at all. When someone says they are loosing their constitutional right, where in the constitution does it say anything about abortion. Not one single person will loose the right to an abortion. It will be legal in many states, many states will have restitrictions. Guess whart? You can travel and/or move to any state in our country you want! Move to a state that is more in line with your beliefs. It really is that simple.

You can also choose not to have an abortion you know. Like right now.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I think you’re underestimating SCOTUS. If the senate passed a law to protect abortion rights it’s entirely possible SCOTUS would strike it down saying it intrudes on state sovereignty or whatever.

This is why we should expand the court. It’s time to reign in a lawless branch of government.

I mean that was literally the argument for overturning RvW, 'it isn't a law and SC shouldn't be setting law-like precedents so fuck RvW, get the senate to do their job'. Ironically i don't disagree with that assessment but I vehemently disagree with the way it's being done, because it's throwing the US citizenry to the wolves while we spend like 30 fucking years fighting in congress to get these things actually addressed.

 

[fskimospy]

Then please explain to me how when one party controls that much and holds that much power over everyone's lives, how that can be overcome.

And please don't say "by voting" because that too, soon, will be useless.

Should we just balkanize?

‘Explain how republicans won’t control everything in this fantasy scenario I created where republicans control everything’. Lol.

There are real threats to our country that come from the Republican Party but you’re not able to talk about them rationally. Think about it - one idiot trying to appeal to a primary electorate said something and you added another 20+ years to your Republican tyranny.

 

[K1052]

I think you’re underestimating SCOTUS. If the senate passed a law to protect abortion rights it’s entirely possible SCOTUS would strike it down saying it intrudes on state sovereignty or whatever.

This is why we should expand the court. It’s time to reign in a lawless branch of government.

This is correct. Without court reform everything else is meaningless or worse a waste of precious time/political capital.