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Indus said:
To be honest I have a feeling Obergefell will be next to go and if anyone thinks the dems can stop that from happening is dreaming..

The elections are already fixed for 2022 and for the next century in the state courthouses thanks to the big lie.

We will be a 1 party state soon. Biden is the last whimper of the opposition to Trumpism.

Enjoy it while it lasts!
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And this as well. We're well on our way to autocracy. GOP is going to demolish the Dems in the midterms and 24. Democrats are absolutely fucking clowns.
 
TheVrolok said:
Absolutely this. This is now a major part of her legacy. Congrats RBG.
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Not really. Americans could have easily defeated Trump and Republicans if they turned out to vote, but many young people for whom this issue actually matters couldn't be bothered to vote. If your political strategy revolves around candidates being exciting and perfect, or justices resigning at right times, you are offloading responsibility from the people as electorate to individual politicians and chance, and you are going to lose.
 
Republicans mostly complaining about the leak (but mah norms) and ignoring the strong possibility the court has decided to enable states do something not 20% of the population approves of.
 
senseamp said:
Not really. Americans could have easily defeated Trump and Republicans if they turned out to vote, but many young people for whom this issue actually matters couldn't be bothered to vote. If your political strategy revolves around candidates being exciting and perfect, or justices resigning at right times, you are offloading responsibility from the people as electorate to individual politicians and chance, and you are going to lose.
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Of course Trump is a dramatically larger issue, and yes, as I responded to your other comment the feckless Democrat base is probably most to blame, but RBGs legacy for me will remain largely about giving up a seat to activist right wingers for what.. Pride? Conviction?
 
TheVrolok said:
Of course Trump is a dramatically larger issue, and yes, as I responded to your other comment the feckless Democrat base is probably most to blame, but RBGs legacy for me will remain largely about giving up a seat to activist right wingers for what.. Pride? Conviction?
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Look, I agree she should have been more strategic in her retirement, and she regretted it before death. But if you are betting on a single person staying healthy and doing politically smart thing, you are offloading responsibility. In a society with a responsible electorate that focused on issues at play more than who they'd like to have a beer with, neither Trump nor Bush would have been elected.
 
senseamp said:
Look, I agree she should have been more strategic in her retirement, and she regretted it before death. But if you are betting on a single person staying healthy and doing politically smart thing, you are offloading responsibility. In a society with a responsible electorate that focused on issues at play more than who they'd like to have a beer with, neither Trump nor Bush would have been elected.
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I absolutely agree with, wholeheartedly, just expressing my view of the RBGs tarnished legacy.
 
To be honest, leak only further discredits the court. It's clearly a sham and needs to be remade in full.
As for abortion, nothing in life is free. It's highly unlikely this will be a "free win" for the GOP in any capacity.
 
So ironic....
Trump republicans have become obsessed with stopping immigrants and minorities from crossing the border. Now, the majority of minorities and immigrants will be coming into America from the womb. HOW is Donald Trump ever going to put a wall around the womb?
 
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