Roadmap leaked: Nvidia GeForce GTX 580 to be 20% faster

[busydude]

They were at-least having some serious discussion until,

You havent been here a year and your telling a poster with years of experience to stop posting BS..LMAO!

Are you serious, or just being flippant?

If you think I made that comment based solely on time spent here, I cant be bothered answering you!...Christ this forum is getting tiring!

What?...drives?....I LOL'd at someone with not even a year posting on the forum claiming 1 of the most knowledgeable posters of GPU was spouting BS...enough already.. Why you think you have to come in a reference something from 4+ yrs ago, what a troll, FU

Years of experience does not mean a person will always be right, Can you please stop your thread crapping and let them have their discussion.

.....Look HD6800 series are great cards for the $$$, but they are just smaller Cypress chips with minor tweaks (not like HD5800 which had major tweaks from HD4800). Based on rumours that HD69xx will not be Cypress "retweak", it should be a worthy new/heavily revised architecture.

Great post there RS. Regarding how AMD positioned these new cards, IMO AMD positioned it to take away Nvidia's monopoly at $200 price point and to fill the gap between 5770 and 5850. These new cards are not meant for the users of 5850 and 5870 instead, these new cards are for new customers willing to upgrade from 48XX series cards, 4870 was a much better cards than a 5770 in terms of performance and price. AMD did not want to lose 48XX owners at $200 price point to Nvidia's GTX 460.

 

[Schmide]

Why you think you have to come in a reference something from 4+ yrs ago, what a troll, FU

It was irony showing how history is a double edged sword.

(i.e. I'd rather have 6 months of quality than 5 years of random misplaced aggression)

 

[Aristotelian]

Great post there RS. Regarding how AMD positioned these new cards, IMO AMD positioned it to take away Nvidia's monopoly at $200 price point and to fill the gap between 5770 and 5850. These new cards are not meant for the users of 5850 and 5870 instead, these new cards are for new customers willing to upgrade from 48XX series cards, 4870 was a much better cards than a 5770 in terms of performance and price. AMD did not want to lose 48XX owners at $200 price point to Nvidia's GTX 460.

Right, we've got the 6850 and 6870 at decent prices that bring pretty good bang for the buck (what many posters on this forum have been searching for and found only in the GTX460 as of late). One worrying thought might be that the 69XX series will carry a wild price premium for the added performance. My point? That we should hope Nvidia does decide to release something, anything, to combat what could potentially be continued DX11 marketshare dominance by AMD.

If games are going to evolve (as Scali has suggested from his viewpoint as a developer) with far more tessellation and who knows what else, enthusiasts like us are going to be looking for upgrades at least every other cycle. The only thing that can keep the prices from skyrocketing, on my view, is continued competition between the two companies.

Looking at Anandtech's review:

"As for the Radeon HD 6850 however, things are much more lopsided in AMD’s favor. It’s give and take depending on the benchmark, but ultimately it’s just as fast as the GTX 460 1GB on average, even though it’s officially $20 cheaper. And at the same time it draws less power and produces less noise than the GTX 460 1GB. In fact unless the GTX 460 1GB was cheaper than the 6850, we really can’t come up with a reason to buy it. (Aside: At the time of this post, the cheapest GTX4601GB on Newegg is 169.99 USD After Rebate, EVGA and with HAWX 2 and the cheapest 6850 is 179.99). For all the advantage of an overclock when going up against the 6870, the stock clocked card has nothing on the 6850. Even the GTX 460 768MB, while $10-$20 cheaper than the 6850, still has to contend with the fact that the 6850 is almost 10% faster and only marginally louder."

That sort of review doesn't bode well for the 460 these days, especially since that was and is the card that Nvidia enthusiasts were pushing. Here's hoping for some more competition.

[ignore poster]

No big deal as I got tired of running an English tutorial for you anyway. The vitriol in your posts undermines any possible impression of worthwhile reading or objectivity in what you say.

 

[Arkadrel]

yeah the 6850 is a bang on card.... it was ment to combat the 460 768 mb, and the 6870 was ment to combat the 460 1gb.

however amd might have under targeted their cards.

the 6850 is a rival for the 460 1gb, and the 6870 is a rival for the 470.

It just needs price tweaks,... the 6850 needs to match 460 1gb prices, and the 6870 needs to be a tad bit cheaper than a 470. Then these cards should sell well.

 

[sagrada]

yeah the 6850 is a bang on card.... it was ment to combat the 460 768 mb, and the 6870 was ment to combat the 460 1gb.

however amd might have under targeted their cards.

the 6850 is a rival for the 460 1gb, and the 6870 is a rival for the 470.

It just needs price tweaks,... the 6850 needs to match 460 1gb prices, and the 6870 needs to be a tad bit cheaper than a 470. Then these cards should sell well.

This happened with RV770 as well. The 4850 was targeted at the 8800GT and the 4870 at the 9800GTX. And look how that turned out 😉