Road & Track 2006 Eclipse review

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: CRXican

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: CRXican

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: CRXican

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: CRXican
werd, de-tuned Evo 8 engine would be great. It might lack some of the torque but I bet it is much lighter and it's easy to mod.

Why would Mitsu be stupid enough to create something that would steal sales from the Evo?

That's a silly question. You're comparing a 4 door AWD car to a 2 Door FWD car. The EVO sales would not be "stolen" at all.

You're comparing two performance vehicles. People don't buy the Evo because it has 4 doors.
They buy it because it has the 4G63 and AWD.

If you give them a cheaper FWD option with the 4G63, you don't think some people would opt for that?

I guess some might but I think they like the AWD idea though. Many FWD haters out there.

You'd basically have a rebirth of the GSX and GST. The are FWD haters out there, but given the choice of FWD and AWD and a several thousand dollar gap, most of us would choose the FWD and have a car that can kill from a roll.

Mitsu created the Evo to fight against the WRX, the 350Z, the RX-8, etc.

The Eclipse is designed to fight against the RSX, the Celica, etc.

"The V6 GT should begin at about $23,000, with a well loaded example like our test car hovering at near $27,000."

That's from the article. Not much of a price gap between the Eclipse and the Evo and we're not even talking about how ugly the Eclipse is.

There's a difference though. There's no rebates on the Evo. The Eclipse GT should begin at $23k. After incentives, you can probably get it for closer to $20k, especially if you're a prior Mitsu owner. That's a $10k difference.

Now, if you're an idiot and you check off every item on the option list, that's an entirely different story. Not to mention that the Evo has none of those options.

 

[MasterAndCommander]

Not bad for a FWD fat tard

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: CRXican

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: CRXican

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: CRXican
werd, de-tuned Evo 8 engine would be great. It might lack some of the torque but I bet it is much lighter and it's easy to mod.

Why would Mitsu be stupid enough to create something that would steal sales from the Evo?

That's a silly question. You're comparing a 4 door AWD car to a 2 Door FWD car. The EVO sales would not be "stolen" at all.

You're comparing two performance vehicles. People don't buy the Evo because it has 4 doors.
They buy it because it has the 4G63 and AWD.

If you give them a cheaper FWD option with the 4G63, you don't think some people would opt for that?

I guess some might but I think they like the AWD idea though. Many FWD haters out there.

You'd basically have a rebirth of the GSX and GST. The are FWD haters out there, but given the choice of FWD and AWD and a several thousand dollar gap, most of us would choose the FWD and have a car that can kill from a roll.

Mitsu created the Evo to fight against the WRX, the 350Z, the RX-8, etc.

The Eclipse is designed to fight against the RSX, the Celica, etc.

Too bad your left with a Mitsu? A company that hid over a million complaints about their cars and had to recall something like 2.X million cars because of this lie. Buy Mitsu if you're an idiot.

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Too bad your left with a Mitsu? A company that hid over a million complaints about their cars and had to recall something like 2.X million cars because of this lie. Buy Mitsu if you're an idiot.

I've never had any problems with any of mine, and neither have any of my friends.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Too bad your left with a Mitsu? A company that hid over a million complaints about their cars and had to recall something like 2.X million cars because of this lie. Buy Mitsu if you're an idiot.

I've never had any problems with any of mine, and neither have any of my friends.

I could go through the list of things that went bad on my 95 GSX that Mitsu refused to fix and it was later found out they had covered up stuff...but It's not worth it. It doesn't matter that your 1-2 friends haven't had problems yet. It's a very well known fact that they lied and altered customer complaints and they're a POS car company.

Sorry bud..just stating the truth.

 

[StageLeft]

But it's a mitsubishi *laughs*

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Too bad your left with a Mitsu? A company that hid over a million complaints about their cars and had to recall something like 2.X million cars because of this lie. Buy Mitsu if you're an idiot.

I've never had any problems with any of mine, and neither have any of my friends.

I could go through the list of things that went bad on my 95 GSX that Mitsu refused to fix and it was later found out they had covered up stuff...but It's not worth it. It doesn't matter that your 1-2 friends haven't had problems yet. It's a very well known fact that they lied and altered customer complaints and they're a POS car company.

Sorry bud..just stating the truth.

Was your car completely stock and you never abused it? If so, humor me. What was wrong with it?

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Too bad your left with a Mitsu? A company that hid over a million complaints about their cars and had to recall something like 2.X million cars because of this lie. Buy Mitsu if you're an idiot.

I've never had any problems with any of mine, and neither have any of my friends.

I could go through the list of things that went bad on my 95 GSX that Mitsu refused to fix and it was later found out they had covered up stuff...but It's not worth it. It doesn't matter that your 1-2 friends haven't had problems yet. It's a very well known fact that they lied and altered customer complaints and they're a POS car company.

Sorry bud..just stating the truth.

Was your car completely stock and you never abused it? If so, humor me. What was wrong with it?

Totally stock, I never did anything to it. It was a lease vehicle. Clutch went out, Air Compressor went out, transmission problems. I started having problems at exactly 38,000 miles. That is when the Air Compressor ($1500) and then the clutch followed. All in all several grand worth of junk that went bad.

Dealer claimed it was normal wear and tear and would do nothing about it. It's ok though, I gave it back at the end of the lease with transmission problems. They wanted about 3K to fix it and tried to come after me for it. Needless to say I won that battle

 

[mb]

My friend always used to say "never buy a car from a company that makes TVs."

 

[sandman018]

/shrug

I enjoy my evo8

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: sandman018
/shrug

I enjoy my evo8

STI > Evo8

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

6-speed Max SE

Nice! I like those. But at the end of the day, it's still a 4-door grocery getter, and not a 2-door sports coupe.

The Eclipse is not a "sports coupe". It's a 2+2 gran tourer at best.

Furthermore, "nimble for a FWD car" is not the same as "nimble". That's like saying that "nimble for a 500 pound offensive lineman" is the same as "nimble". It just ain't happening.

ZV

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: sandman018
/shrug

I enjoy my evo8

STI > Evo8

not on the track says best motoring. plus the Evo8 starts at around $28k, standard with brembo's and advan's all around.

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

6-speed Max SE

Nice! I like those. But at the end of the day, it's still a 4-door grocery getter, and not a 2-door sports coupe.

The Eclipse is not a "sports coupe". It's a 2+2 gran tourer at best.

Furthermore, "nimble for a FWD car" is not the same as "nimble". That's like saying that "nimble for a 500 pound offensive lineman" is the same as "nimble". It just ain't happening.

ZV

qft. cant mitsu put out a sports car that dosent outweigh my grocery getter? 263hp at 3500lbs is nice, but 210hp at 2500-2600lbs would be much better. besides, what happened? i love the GSX.it was really the only eclipse worth getting.(99 model rocks)

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Furthermore, "nimble for a FWD car" is not the same as "nimble". That's like saying that "nimble for a 500 pound offensive lineman" is the same as "nimble". It just ain't happening.

ZV

Your logic sucks.

The huge, overwhelming majority of the cars out on the road today are FWD. Now, if the Eclipse performed as well as the huge, overwhelming majority of the FWD cars on the road, they would not have commented that it's "nimble for a FWD car", would they?

Which leads me to believe that it is BETTER than the majority of FWD cars on the road.

 

[Goosemaster]

the biggest news for the Eclipse is the new engine that powers the GT model: its a cast iron block, aluminum head 3.8 liter SOHC V6 that delivers 263bhp at 5750 rpm along with 260 lb.-ft. of front tire shredding torque at 4500 rpm.

LOL..I couldn't hold it in....

LOFL

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Totally stock, I never did anything to it. It was a lease vehicle. Clutch went out, Air Compressor went out, transmission problems. I started having problems at exactly 38,000 miles. That is when the Air Compressor ($1500) and then the clutch followed. All in all several grand worth of junk that went bad.

Dealer claimed it was normal wear and tear and would do nothing about it. It's ok though, I gave it back at the end of the lease with transmission problems. They wanted about 3K to fix it and tried to come after me for it. Needless to say I won that battle

WOW, I've never heard about anything that bad. I'm sorry to hear about it man, that sucks. I was expecting you to complain about crank walk and tranny problems, not about the grocery list you listed. It sounds like you had a shady dealer as well.

Where were the 2Gs produced? My curent Mitsu is made entirely in Japan.

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

6-speed Max SE

Nice! I like those. But at the end of the day, it's still a 4-door grocery getter, and not a 2-door sports coupe.

The Eclipse is not a "sports coupe". It's a 2+2 gran tourer at best.

Furthermore, "nimble for a FWD car" is not the same as "nimble". That's like saying that "nimble for a 500 pound offensive lineman" is the same as "nimble". It just ain't happening.

ZV

qft. cant mitsu put out a sports car that dosent outweigh my grocery getter? 263hp at 3500lbs is nice, but 210hp at 2500-2600lbs would be much better. besides, what happened? i love the GSX.it was really the only eclipse worth getting.(99 model rocks)

What car is your grocery getter?

PSA - If you make comments like " my grocery getter is better than this", please state what car you have.

 

[spidey07]

man that is one ugly car.

I'm sure it will get stomped in the twisties due to its weight. Mitsubishi loses again.
:thumbsdown:

"So is this the second coming of the Eclipse? In a word, no. I'm no physics major, but all that weight distributed 61 percent front/39 percent rear along with front wheel drive, soft springs, too much body roll and all season tires (that start squealing in protest long before they should) do not a sports car make. Understeer is the rule of the day entering low speed corners, while torque steer and wildly spinning inside front tire ( a limited slip differential is not available) make themselves evident on the way out. "

BOO!!!

 

[TuffGuy]

Originally posted by: spidey07
man that is one ugly car.

I'm sure it will get stomped in the twisties due to its weight. Mitsubishi loses again.
:thumbsdown:

Perhaps you should read the article.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: spidey07
man that is one ugly car.

I'm sure it will get stomped in the twisties due to its weight. Mitsubishi loses again.
:thumbsdown:

Perhaps you should read the article.

I did and quoted the important part.

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

6-speed Max SE

Nice! I like those. But at the end of the day, it's still a 4-door grocery getter, and not a 2-door sports coupe.

The Eclipse is not a "sports coupe". It's a 2+2 gran tourer at best.

Furthermore, "nimble for a FWD car" is not the same as "nimble". That's like saying that "nimble for a 500 pound offensive lineman" is the same as "nimble". It just ain't happening.

ZV

qft. cant mitsu put out a sports car that dosent outweigh my grocery getter? 263hp at 3500lbs is nice, but 210hp at 2500-2600lbs would be much better. besides, what happened? i love the GSX.it was really the only eclipse worth getting.(99 model rocks)

What car is your grocery getter?

PSA - If you make comments like " my grocery getter is better than this", please state what car you have.

I didnt say it was better, just lighter. 02 camry btw.(3164lbs). considering it is a 3.3L V6. tht is retty good. also, if you hadnt noticed, the V6 auto version only weighs in at 3450lbs.

why are so defensive about this car anyway. i mean relax. it's a car, it's not like someone is slamming your family.

FWD, not really sport but just "sporty" and overweight does not paint a pretty picture. RWD is preferred on sports cars for a reason. weight and balance gain.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

6-speed Max SE

Nice! I like those. But at the end of the day, it's still a 4-door grocery getter, and not a 2-door sports coupe.

The Eclipse is not a "sports coupe". It's a 2+2 gran tourer at best.

Furthermore, "nimble for a FWD car" is not the same as "nimble". That's like saying that "nimble for a 500 pound offensive lineman" is the same as "nimble". It just ain't happening.

ZV

qft. cant mitsu put out a sports car that dosent outweigh my grocery getter? 263hp at 3500lbs is nice, but 210hp at 2500-2600lbs would be much better. besides, what happened? i love the GSX.it was really the only eclipse worth getting.(99 model rocks)

What car is your grocery getter?

PSA - If you make comments like " my grocery getter is better than this", please state what car you have.

I didnt say it was better, just lighter. 02 camry btw.(3164lbs). considering it is a 3.3L V6. tht is retty good. also, if you hadnt noticed, the V6 auto version only weighs in at 3450lbs.

LOL....defending the performance of a Camry...that's rich


<--drives a POS 1990 Accord so he shouldn't be talking...but is

 

[Nutdotnet]

DSM Eclipse > Any Eclipse in the market today.

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: TuffGuy

6-speed Max SE

Nice! I like those. But at the end of the day, it's still a 4-door grocery getter, and not a 2-door sports coupe.

The Eclipse is not a "sports coupe". It's a 2+2 gran tourer at best.

Furthermore, "nimble for a FWD car" is not the same as "nimble". That's like saying that "nimble for a 500 pound offensive lineman" is the same as "nimble". It just ain't happening.

ZV

qft. cant mitsu put out a sports car that dosent outweigh my grocery getter? 263hp at 3500lbs is nice, but 210hp at 2500-2600lbs would be much better. besides, what happened? i love the GSX.it was really the only eclipse worth getting.(99 model rocks)

What car is your grocery getter?

PSA - If you make comments like " my grocery getter is better than this", please state what car you have.

I didnt say it was better, just lighter. 02 camry btw.(3164lbs). considering it is a 3.3L V6. tht is retty good. also, if you hadnt noticed, the V6 auto version only weighs in at 3450lbs.

LOL....defending the performance of a Camry...that's rich


<--drives a POS 1990 Accord so he shouldn't be talking...but is

sigh. again i never said camry was not better, just lighter which is somewhat miraculous considering ti has a full sized spare, big, padded seating for 5, 4 doors, is substantially bigger and has minimal weight cutting measures compared to most sports cars.

i see the mid 90s stage fro mitsu all over again, where the so called "sports car" is bloated so much with luxuries, they must raise hp to compensate(remember supra,300zx). when will mitsu learn, less is more. look at the elsie. 1980lbs, a "measly" 1.8l 190hp/125tq engine will smoke almost any car out there in a real track. it is very fast accelerating(4.9 to 60) and it is much better handling.