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radhak

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Newell Steamer said:
If only she was arme,..
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I know you are being sarcastic, but I want to state this - A gun is only so much protection. I daresay if she did not have that false sense of security that comes with the ownership of a gun, she'd not have gone back for a foolish controntation, and be alive today.
 
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blastingcap

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Forget this story at least until way more information comes out. I think they knew each other. They lost contact for five minutes and then made contact again? In Vegas? And could see eye color in the dark from range? Fishy.
 
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Genx87

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blastingcap said:
Forget this story at least until way more information comes out. I think they knew each other. They lost contact for five minutes and then made contact again? In Vegas? And could see eye color in the dark from range? Fishy.
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I agree. Reading about this story earlier. Something doesnt seem to add up. This guy cuts them off, words are exchanged, she goes home, magically finds him after getting her kid to bring his gun? Then they exchange some words. They split up again. The guy shows up at their house and opens fire?
 
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radhak said:
I know you are being sarcastic, but I want to state this - A gun is only so much protection. I daresay if she did not have that false sense of security that comes with the ownership of a gun, she'd not have gone back for a foolish controntation, and be alive today.
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I am in agreement with you, on the bold. I am mocking all the people who feel guns would have solved any old mess of trouble. Nonetheless, I strongly believe that if you want to own a gun for personal protection, you should.

In terms of the gun 'enabling' her - she would have gone back and asked her son to get his hatchet, baseball bat or crossbow instead. She went to her OWN child to find the man who threatened her, to threaten him back with a gun. Think about it, a woman so enraged, she was perfectly OK with sending her own child into danger.

That kind of stupid isn't brought on by owning a gun. It's brought on because the person is a raging moron.

This idea of no one,.. and I mean NO ONE, pushes me around is total bullshit. It has proven to get people beat and even killed.
 
JulesMaximus

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I thought more guns was supposed to create a polite society... isn't that the horseshit gun rights advocates always spew?
 
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tHa ShIzNiT

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I dont know why but I can't get past the husband wearing the bright red nascar jacket to the candlelight vigil

edit: I know why. Confirmation bias.
 
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A father defended his son as a "hero" for bringing his gun on a hunt with his mother for a driver in an apparent road rage incident that turned deadly.
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"My son is not an animal, my son is a hero in my book," Tammy's husband, Robert Meyers, said at a vigil Tuesday. "There were mistakes made like every one of us have made in our life, but this particular mistake was made to keep a bigger mistake from happening."
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Brandon insisted he had only gone along on the trip to make sure his mother would be safe.

"I did what I had to do to protect my family. Everyone can think what they have to think; I did it for a reason. And I'd do it for anyone I love," Brandon said.
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At a candlelight memorial for the nurse, mother and grandmother, relatives said the new information does not change the important facts of the case.

"She didn't go out on a hunt like they said. She took her daughter home to safety, she got her son, she took the chaos away from her home like any mother would," her cousin Susan Ramos said.

The family of Tammy Meyers is now offering a 1965 Chevrolet El Camino to anyone provides information that leads to an arrest, according to KSNV.

Tammy Meyers lived in the San Gabriel Valley and then Victorville before she and her family moved to Vegas.
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"We did nothing wrong yo!"

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...292349561.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_LABrand
 
DrPizza

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JulesMaximus said:
I thought more guns was supposed to create a polite society... isn't that the horseshit gun rights advocates always spew?
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Isn't it a slightly more polite society as a result of one person who believes in keeping it real now being gone? And if even one person learns from this, "gee, maybe I should drop it and not go try to find the person I'm road raging against," then society just got a little more polite.
 
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DrPizza said:
Isn't it a slightly more polite society as a result of one person who believes in keeping it real now being gone? And if even one person learns from this, "gee, maybe I should drop it and not go try to find the person I'm road raging against," then society just got a little more polite.
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Come on man, you know that nobody will learn anything from this. People will still rage and go off half-cocked and get themselves into situations that are entirely avoidable.

Even the husband is saying that his wife and son did nothing wrong. Um, then why is your wife dead? Maybe she did nothing wrong technically but she did something stupid and it got her killed. If she had just shrugged it off she would still be alive.
 
GagHalfrunt

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Woman went looking for a gun fight, got a gun fight. What's the problem? No innocent people got hurt, don't waste police resources on investigating.
 
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The best part:
The family of Tammy Meyers is now offering a 1965 Chevrolet El Camino to anyone provides information that leads to an arrest, according to KSNV.
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Basically the value they put on finding their mother's killer is an old used el camino lmao
 
SOFTengCOMPelec

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This link seems to add more information about exactly what happened.
Including the important revelation, that her son fired at the alleged attacker/killer, AFTER (very shortly), he fired.

I.e. It is their word against the yet to be found attacker, who fired first, anyway.

In my book, if they fired at the attacker or even looked like they were going to, then he can say it was self defense, I guess.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2958764/He-not-animal-Father-vigil-wife-s-slaying-Las-Vegas-road-rage-incident-defends-armed-son-s-decision-chase-angry-motorist.html

EDIT: Maybe I misunderstood, and he fired at the fleeing car.

'She figured this person was speeding, and right or wrong, they needed to be corrected
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Does not sound worth getting killed, because someone appeared to be speeding.

EDIT2: If it is the VICTIMS family who keep on changing the stories account, I will find it very difficult to believe whatever it is, that they are currently trying to claim. I'm not clear from reading the story, who changed it.

EDIT3: I'm being a bit silly here. The Mother was not armed herself, so should NOT have been the target, I suppose.
 
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SOFTengCOMPelec said:
EDIT3: I'm being a bit silly here. The Mother was not armed herself, so should NOT have been the target, I suppose.
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But if the son started brandishing his weapon and it went to crap from there she was in the area and I'm not shocked she got hit.

This whole story is a total cluster and it will be interesting to see where it goes. So far this sounds like dumb-ass on dumb-ass violence.
 
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brycejones said:
But if the son started brandishing his weapon and it went to crap from there she was in the area and I'm not shocked she got hit.

This whole story is a total cluster and it will be interesting to see where it goes. So far this sounds like dumb-ass on dumb-ass violence.
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I agree with you. I think it was dark at the time (not 100% sure), which increases the likelihood of her getting hit, anyway.

I think the story does seem to say that the son, did indeed have the gun in his hand, before/during the incident, which is just asking for trouble.

It will be interesting to see what happens with this story, eventually.
 
highland145

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EDIT3: I'm being a bit silly here. The Mother was not armed herself, so should NOT have been the target, I suppose.
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You must be single. Women are never unarmed. Try arguing with one.
 
SOFTengCOMPelec

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highland145 said:
You must be single. Women are never unarmed. Try arguing with one.
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Some people might prefer to actually get shot, rather than get into a shouting match, with an angry women. (Joke).

It has also crossed my mind, that I hope ballistic tests, find out that the bullets the son fired, are NOT in the victim. Hopefully that is not what happened. But stranger things have happened.
 
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