Rising cost of taking a puff

[QueBert]

The mexicans and jews have sugar cane based Coke. SO if it were just HFCS as it well should be, you are still covered.

Mexican Coke is ridiculously expensive, I was about 10 miles from the Mexican border a few weeks ago yet it was a good .50 more per bottle over the HFCS stuff. That's nothing if you only drink a Coke here or there, but I drink at least a 6 pack a day, some days a 12 pack. The mob would be my only solution seeing how the Mexican prices would probably be about in line with any "tax" we got on the HFCS, which would wind up costing me between $90-180 a month

 

[sdifox]

Mexican Coke is ridiculously expensive, I was about 10 miles from the Mexican border a few weeks ago yet it was a good .50 more per bottle over the HFCS stuff. That's nothing if you only drink a Coke here or there, but I drink at least a 6 pack a day, some days a 12 pack. The mob would be my only solution seeing how the Mexican prices would probably be about in line with any "tax" we got on the HFCS, which would wind up costing me between $90-180 a month

dude, your problem is not which coke, it's the amount of coke. You are in the certain death category with that much pop.

 

[SMOGZINN]

That same law also wiped out the RYO/MYO (roll your own/make your own) with a tax increase that was something like 900%. It essentially closed the loophole, where it was conceivable to smoke for less than $40 or so a carton anywhere in the states. Previously you could get a carton of RYO for less than $10.

Is that the law that goes into effect next week, because I checked today you can still buy rolling tobacco with papers for around $20 a carton for American Spirit.

 

[QueBert]

dude, your problem is not which coke, it's the amount of coke. You are in the certain death category with that much pop.

Maybe, been drinking it like this since I was about 16 and *knock on wood* I pass my physicals with flying colors (35 now) I've worked for companies that had plenty of programmers in their late 50's who pounded Mt. Dews like water for decades, so maybe I'll get lucky like them.

 

[*kjm]

You know what's the worst part about these cigarette taxes? If suddenly everyone in the country decided, tomorrow, to quit smoking, that tax revenue would dry up. But hey, the whores we vote into office have gotten used to depending on that source of income to fund all their pet projects, and they're not going to just let it dry up like that, are they??

Wouldn't surprise me to find out the real reason they're jacking up the tax on cigarettes is because that revenue has been dropping in recent years, and they have to make up for it now. I know the possibility of everyone quitting is NIL, but imagine what else they'd suddenly tax, or tax more grossly, if that did happen. "Oh well, guess we'll just have to tax gasoline up to $5/gallon, and triple the tax on alcohol!"

Sad thing is you are right..... It is going to come from somewere and the new non smokers are going to say who cares I'm still saving now you all know what we went through..... but will they stop?

 

[sdifox]

Maybe, been drinking it like this since I was about 16 and *knock on wood* I pass my physicals with flying colors (35 now) I've worked for companies that had plenty of programmers in their late 50's who pounded Mt. Dews like water for decades, so maybe I'll get lucky like them.

Diabetes, heart decease, all awaits you.

 

[Fingolfin269]

dude, your problem is not which coke, it's the amount of coke. You are in the certain death category with that much pop.

We're all in the certain death category. I would have less joy in my life if I cut down on my Diet Mt. Dew intake so screw it.

 

[irishScott]

So in terms of overall enjoyment, you still have to pay less for a pack of quality cigs than a 6-pack of quality beer. I fail to see the outrage.

Not to hijack, but to you smokers, why do you smoke cigs in the first place? Never tried them myself, don't see the point. Cigars I can see trying because they can actually smell pretty damn good and are otherwise classy. Cigs smell like shit and are becoming more and more synonymous with low-class (as it should be IMO).

 

[QueBert]

Diabetes, heart decease, all awaits you.

Diabetes doesn't come from consumption of sugar, usually it's attributed to a significant rise in weight. And I can't gain weight to save my life. While I know drinking soda isn't good for me, it's doubtful it'll lead to me ever getting Diabetes. Heat problems, possibly, but we all gotta go somehow. Enjoy life while you're here, you never know how/when you're going to pass.

 

[jiggahertz]

Is that the law that goes into effect next week, because I checked today you can still buy rolling tobacco with papers for around $20 a carton for American Spirit.

I think he's referring to SCHIP which obama signed a month or so after taking office. Along with added taxes on cigarettes, cigars and pipe tobacco it also increased the RYO tobacco tax by 2200%.

 

[TridenT]

Mexican Coke is ridiculously expensive, I was about 10 miles from the Mexican border a few weeks ago yet it was a good .50 more per bottle over the HFCS stuff. That's nothing if you only drink a Coke here or there, but I drink at least a 6 pack a day, some days a 12 pack. The mob would be my only solution seeing how the Mexican prices would probably be about in line with any "tax" we got on the HFCS, which would wind up costing me between $90-180 a month

You do realize that HFCS is made of corn and that corn is subsidized by the US government... I think the US also has sugar tariffs and quotas. :/ It's one of the only reasons why we don't use sugar anymore in a lot of these products.

 

[Fingolfin269]

So in terms of overall enjoyment, you still have to pay less for a pack of quality cigs than a 6-pack of quality beer. I fail to see the outrage.

Not to hijack, but to you smokers, why do you smoke cigs in the first place? Never tried them myself, don't see the point. Cigars I can see trying because they can actually smell pretty damn good and are otherwise classy. Cigs smell like shit and are becoming more and more synonymous with low-class (as it should be IMO).

You've asked a great question and to be honest I have no idea. You're right, they smell like shit and they taste like shit unless you smoke them on a regular basis (dead taste buds). I imagine the only reason to continue is because of addiction. I don't care what anyone says, quitting smoking is hard. It's so easy to say "I'll just quit tomorrow." The health aspects are not even a great motivator to a smoker because they seem so far down the road that in a smoker's mind there will always be time to quit if health is the reason.

 

[nonameo]

So why not just roll your own?

 

[SMOGZINN]

You've asked a great question and to be honest I have no idea. You're right, they smell like shit and they taste like shit unless you smoke them on a regular basis (dead taste buds). I imagine the only reason to continue is because of addiction. I don't care what anyone says, quitting smoking is hard. It's so easy to say "I'll just quit tomorrow." The health aspects are not even a great motivator to a smoker because they seem so far down the road that in a smoker's mind there will always be time to quit if health is the reason.

The answer is most of us started when we were young. At first it was just a few smokes every now and then, often because all the adults we respected smoked and it felt like a right of passage. It doesn't take long to get addicted, and once you are it is hell to stop. As I said in another post, the cravings never seem to go away, you just learn to live with them.

 

[Fingolfin269]

The answer is most of us started when we were young. At first it was just a few smokes every now and then, often because all the adults we respected smoked and it felt like a right of passage. It doesn't take long to get addicted, and once you are it is hell to stop. As I said in another post, the cravings never seem to go away, you just learn to live with them.

You're right, the cravings never do go away. One can be months in the clear and then get a craving like you never quit. It's some weird shit.

Granted I finally decided to start having a smoke or two when I'm out at a bar but luckily have developed the willpower to leave it at that.

 

[GasX]

Diabetes doesn't come from consumption of sugar, usually it's attributed to a significant rise in weight. And I can't gain weight to save my life. While I know drinking soda isn't good for me, it's doubtful it'll lead to me ever getting Diabetes. Heat problems, possibly, but we all gotta go somehow. Enjoy life while you're here, you never know how/when you're going to pass.

Constant incessant spikes in blood sugar result in constant incessant insulin spikes which results in insulin resistance which results in adult onset diabetes.

 

[SMOGZINN]

You're right, the cravings never do go away. One can be months in the clear and then get a craving like you never quit. It's some weird shit.

Granted I finally decided to start having a smoke or two when I'm out at a bar but luckily have developed the willpower to leave it at that.

That is pretty much what I did to. I spent a few months having a smoke or two while drinking. Then one weekend a friend of mine needed some comfort, and I spent the evening on his porch drinking and smoking...Now I'm smoking a pack a day again.

 

[CraigRT]

Maybe, been drinking it like this since I was about 16 and *knock on wood* I pass my physicals with flying colors (35 now) I've worked for companies that had plenty of programmers in their late 50's who pounded Mt. Dews like water for decades, so maybe I'll get lucky like them.

If I have more than 1 pop per day I feel terrible about myself. I went like a year without touching a pop at all.

That is just ridiculous, man. Try drinking something else.

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

The answer is most of us started when we were young. At first it was just a few smokes every now and then, often because all the adults we respected smoked and it felt like a right of passage. It doesn't take long to get addicted, and once you are it is hell to stop. As I said in another post, the cravings never seem to go away, you just learn to live with them.

So true. I quit smoking in February and feel great but sometimes I think about it and get the huge urge to smoke but I've learned to think about something else then it goes away. It's weird that way. I'm glad I quit though. I could never see myself a "smoker".

As for the price of smokes, I feel bad for smokers. Actually, I don't. The writing is on the wall. It's time to quit and put the money to things more important in life.

 

[CraigRT]

As for the price of smokes, I feel bad for smokers. Actually, I don't. The writing is on the wall. It's time to quit and put the money to things more important in life.

Ain't that the truth.

 

[QueBert]

If I have more than 1 pop per day I feel terrible about myself. I went like a year without touching a pop at all.

That is just ridiculous, man. Try drinking something else.

I drink a ton of water, I drink beer. I never feel terrible about myself for anything I eat or drink, life's too short to have regrets. If I die due to my diet then at least I enjoyed the time I had here.

 

[moshquerade]

I drink a ton of water, I drink beer. I never feel terrible about myself for anything I eat or drink, life's too short to have regrets. If I die due to my diet then at least I enjoyed the time I had here.

You can enjoy your time here just as well without being a glutton.

 

[IGBT]

suck it. you know you want too at any price.

 

[bobdole369]

because I checked today you can still buy rolling tobacco with papers for around $20 a carton for American Spirit.

No ya can't. RYO is much more than $50 a carton.

http://www.rollyourown.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=90_70

5 oz pack is about 5 packs, so half a carton for $25.99. Note a "pouch" is $8, which is about 2 packs. These are similar to the prices I last recall back in December when I quit.

Obama's SCHIP ensured this market is dead, or at least it cost the same to roll your own as it does to buy cigarettes. It'll be completely illegal to ship tobacco any day now if I recall, so only your local shops now.

 

[bobdole369]

Mexican Coke is ridiculously expensive

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