Riots expected after acquittal: Michael Brown

[Rakehellion]

At least they stopped that Michael Brown!

 

[Svnla]

Don't be an asshole. Again, these are considered internal problems in the black community and you usually hear the speeches and outcries in churches, not a march. Go to any predominantly black neighborhood on Sunday, stop by one of their churches, and listen as they discuss their social problems. Just shut up and listen. You will see that these problems are discussed and debated. So, no, you won't see marches. In fact, they may still be happening but the last one I remember was back in the 1990s. Again, I know plenty of people in law enforcement who tell me about the people in the black communities that work with police to deal with these issues.

As for Al Sharpton, here are the relevant links.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/mitche...spotlight-gun-violence-here.html#.VHTtFYvF_Is

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/23742999/al-sharpton-in-chicago-to-address-gun-violence

http://nypost.com/2014/04/07/al-sharpton-secretly-worked-as-an-fbi-mob-informant-report/

Do you even bother to read?

Here it is again:

Show me the links and stories (from well know media sources) of mutliple marchings, yelling, screaming for justice of those killed from the link I posted. Show me some speech of "if I have a son" regarding black young men that were killed from the link I posted. Show me the stories of feverously seeking of justice as strong and as deep as T. Martin and M. Brown cases.

Show. Me. The. Links. Or. Sources. Period.

I do not want some token talk about "internal" problems. I want to see the feverously marching and yelling as loud and long as for M. Brown and T. Martin. I want to see pictures of "No Justice, No Peace" signs. Put up or shut up. So far, you haven't put up anything remotely as I asked. So you need to shut up. LOL @ your pathetic strawman about Al Sharpton. Did I mention his name in my original post? Nope.


LOL @ # 522 post.

 

[Dari]

Do you even bother to read?

Here it is again:



Show. Me. The. Links. Or. Sources. Period.

Yes, I read your post. I can read. And, no, you're not going to get that from me. I know what I've heard and seen. Again, maybe I should say it slower: T-H-E-S-E A-R-E C-O-N-S-I-D-E-R-E-D I-N-T-E-R-N-A-L P-R-O-B-L-E-M-S. Y-O-U W-I-L-L N-O-T R-E-A-D A-B-O-U-T T-H-E-M I-N N-E-W-S-P-A-P-E-R-S.

Again, black-on-black crimes are not considered sensational. Same thing with any crime where the criminal and victim are of the same race. There is little or no media interest, with exceptions. You and someone else claimed that Al Sharpton does nothing when it's black-on-black crimes. I gave you a link. Sharpton is probably the most famous civil rights leader in this country so everything he does gets reported. But there are countless other preachers and leaders who deal with these problems out of the media limelight.

 

[LegendKiller]

Again, the black community is a minority community. It may shock you but they consider these problems to be more internal, than external. You may not see it that way but that is how they see it. You don't know what happened after the media left.

They are *GREAT* at fixing them internally, aren't they?

It explains why they have such stable families, low single mother birth rates, low violent crime rates, low black on black crime rates, and economic prosperity.

This is the problem, no matter what, people like you excuse shitty behavior.

There are plenty of minorities that don't tolerate this shit.

 

[Svnla]

Yes, I read your post. I can read. And, no, you're not going to get that from me. I know what I've heard and seen. Again, maybe I should say it slower: T-H-E-S-E A-R-E C-O-N-S-I-D-E-R-E-D I-N-T-E-R-N-A-L P-R-O-B-L-E-M-S. Y-O-U W-I-L-L N-O-T R-E-A-D A-B-O-U-T T-H-E-M I-N N-E-W-S-P-A-P-E-R-S.

Again, black-on-black crimes are not considered sensational. Same thing with any crime where the criminal and victim are of the same race. There is little or no media interest, with exceptions. You and someone else claimed that Al Sharpton does nothing when it's black-on-black crimes. I gave you a link. Sharpton is probably the most famous civil rights leader in this country so everything he does gets reported. But there are countless other preachers and leaders who deal with these problems out of the media limelight.

Not only you are a horrible debater, you are a liar because I never mention Sharpton in my original post and here it is again:

I rather "have it and not need it than need it and not have it". Just saying. You want to wait for the police to come over and help? Knock yourself out. See how the police came over to help last night at Ferguson? Just saying.




http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/11/10/3-killed-10-wounded-in-weekend-shootings/


Not marching, no yelling, no screaming of "no justice, no peace", no rioting, no looting, nothing. No DoJ investigation of civil right violation, no "if I have a son" speech. Not a damn thing. Nada, zip, nothing.

That's the one you quoted previously. Where did I say anything about Sharpton? WHERE? Give it up and stop quoting me, liar/troll!!!

They are *GREAT* at fixing them internally, aren't they?

It explains why they have such stable families, low single mother birth rates, low violent crime rates, low black on black crime rates, and economic prosperity.

This is the problem, no matter what, people like you excuse shitty behavior.

There are plenty of minorities that don't tolerate this shit.

Don't forget about how they do in school and college. Of course, ACT/SAT tests are discriminated/biased toward whites. Funny how Asians are kicking butt in schools and colleges. Must be because Asians = honorable whites.

 

[Dari]

They are *GREAT* at fixing them internally, aren't they?

It explains why they have such stable families, low single mother birth rates, low violent crime rates, low black on black crime rates, and economic prosperity.

This is the problem, no matter what, people like you excuse shitty behavior.

I never said they were. But for people to say that, when it's black-on-black crimes, nothing is done within the community is asinine and reeks of ignorance. Again, just because you don't see something happening does not mean it isn't happening.

My family lives by the UN. In that area is Tudor City, which is like an enclave off of 2nd Avenue. If you are on 1st Avenue, below Tudor City, there is a nice spot where you can protest (illegally, I'm assuming). Every time I'm in that area I see people protesting in that little area. No one ever hears about them and nobody may care. But, there they are, protesting for whatever reason against the UN or their government or something. They exist, even if you don't know that.

 

[BoomerD]

 

[Dari]

Not only you are a horrible debater, you are a liar because I never mention Sharpton in my original post and here it is again:



That's the one you quoted previously. Where did I say anything about Sharpton? WHERE? Give it up and stop quoting me, liar!!!



Don't forget about how they do in school and college. Of course, ACT/SAT tests are discriminated/biased toward whites. Funny how Asians are kicking butt in schools and colleges. Must be because Asians = honorable whites.

There you go again being an asshole. IIRC, you quoted someone who mentioned the lack of outrage in black communities when it involves black-on-black crimes. I gave you a popular civil rights leader who does just that.
I gave you links. If you're going to have an argument, do it with reason and leave your emotions elsewhere.

 

[CZroe]

I never said they were. But for people to say that, when it's black-on-black crimes, nothing is done within the community is asinine and reeks of ignorance. Again, just because you don't see something happening does not mean it isn't happening.

My family lives by the UN. In that area is Tudor City, which is like an enclave off of 2nd Avenue. If you are on 1st Avenue, below Tudor City, there is a nice spot where you can protest (illegally, I'm assuming). Every time I'm in that area I see people protesting in that little area. No one ever hears about them and nobody may care. But, there they are, protesting for whatever reason against the UN or their government or something. They exist, even if you don't know that.

Excuse me, but their community is part of my community. If I don't see it, neither do they.

Fat lot of good it does if no one sees it.

 

[Dari]

Excuse me, but their community is part of my community. If I don't see it, neither do they.

Fat lot of good it does if no one sees it.

Uh huh

 

[FallenHero]

Neither of these are true. Black on black crimes are not broadcast but they are dealt with in the black community. People like Al Sharpton are there as well, imploring the youth to stop killing each other. People don't hear about it because it's not sexy or sensational. Same thing with black cops killing black people. In that case, it's not sensational but there is still severe outrage. I know a lot of people in law enforcement and hear about these things all the time, including community outreach programs and such...

Uhhh....

While the events down in Ferguson play out, back in Chicagoland the same old bullshit continues day in and day out with nary a peep. In the 107 days since officer Darren Wilson shot and killed 18 year old Michael Brown – 12:03pm, Saturday, August 9th – the following stupidity has taken place in Chicago:

155 homicides (74% black males)
725 shot & wounded
Six (6) 18 year olds killed: Kawantis Montgomery, Kamaal Burton, Tony McIntos, Alexandra Burgos, Rayvon Little, Johnathan Cartwright
59 18 year olds shot & wounded
29 teenagers (13-19) killed
244 teenagers (13-19) shot and wounded
10 shot (5 killed) by the CPD
2 teens – 17yo Laquan McDonald & 19yo Roshad McIntosh – shot & killed by the CPD
9yo Antonio Smith was executed by 4 jagoffs
3yo Donnell Coakley killed by his mother

Brutal, yet incredibly asinine and absurd to say the least.

So what is it about these stats that hasn’t caused people to lose their collective shit?

After all, there have been plenty of opportunities to march, chant, throw shit, break stuff, come up with a hashtag, etc… in the past few months, not only in Chicago, but all over the nation. So where is the national media? The cable news talking heads? The race pimpin’ super duo of Jesse and Al? The professional agitators and social justice warriors? The exploiting politicians? Almost 900 shootings and homicides in the past three months and not one is worthy of their attention.

Someone from ‘round these parts once said “never let a crisis go to waste”. Apparently these stats aren’t crisis-y enough.

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[CZroe]

Uh huh

You can't dismiss it that easily. I grew up in the projects as the white minority. In the Atlanta Greater Metropolitan Region, black people DO outnumber white people, meaning I am in their community instead of the other way around. Got it? ...or are you going to dismiss me with a smiley again?

 

[Dari]

Uhhh....



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That changes nothing.

The root problem in black communities have everything to do with the family, namely the absence of fathers. Another is the devaluing of education. Debating crises in a church helps little because those youths are not in the churches and have little respect for their elders, again because of the absence of fathers.

So, there is no absence of debates and anger wrt black-on-black crimes. But the relevant parties are not listening.

 

[Dari]

You can't dismiss it that easily. I grew up in the projects as the white minority. In the Atlanta Greater Metropolitan Region, black people DO outnumber white people, meaning I am in their community instead of the other way around. Got it? ...or are you going to dismiss me with a smiley again?

You claimed that if you didn't see it it wasn't happening. That is what I dismissed.

 

[Svnla]

There you go again being an asshole. IIRC, you quoted someone who mentioned the lack of outrage in black communities when it involves black-on-black crimes. I gave you a popular civil rights leader who does just that.
I gave you links. If you're going to have an argument, do it with reason and leave your emotions elsewhere.

Again, you are a liar.

Because the person I quoted never said anything about Al Sharpton and here is the post again.

Originally Posted by lozina
Same thing with massive, sustained black-on-black crime being tolerated while a case of white-on-black crime becomes national news

lozina did NOT say it, I did NOT say it, yet you provided links about Al Sharpton. No one asked for Sharpton. We asked for the massive and widespread of matching, yelling and screaming of justice. Straw man much?

You were saying something about "reason"?

 

[Dari]

Again, you are a liar.

Because the person I quoted never said anything about Al Sharpton and here is the post again.



lozina did NOT say it, I did NOT say it, yet you provided links about Al Sharpton. Straw man much?

You were saying something about "reason"?

Neither of you mentioned Sharpton. That was an error on my part (or maybe I read another post where they did mention Sharpton). Either way, that changes nothing. you both claimed that the black community was passive wrt black-on-black crimes. I disagreed. I gave you anecdotal proof. I also gave you proof from the most famous civil rights leader of today and a lightning rod for these race-based events, Al Sharpton, showing how he did his part wrt doing something about black-on-black crimes. I also showed you how he's been doing it for a long time. In case you were too slow to understand, my point was that Sharpton sought the betterment of African-Americans, whether the issues are internal or external. IIRC, you are Asian. I don't expect you to know much about Al Sharpton (or any other black leader) other than what you see and read in the national media. This was your education for today. Food for thought, you do the dishes.

 

[Sephire]

 

[Ns1]

Neither of you mentioned Sharpton. That was an error on my part (or maybe I read another post where they did mention Sharpton). Either way, that changes nothing. you both claimed that the black community was passive wrt black-on-black crimes. I disagreed. I gave you anecdotal proof. I also gave you proof from the most famous civil rights leader of today and a lightning rod for these race-based events, Al Sharpton, showing how he did his part wrt doing something about black-on-black crimes. I also showed you how he's been doing it for a long time. In case you were too slow to understand, my point was that Sharpton sought the betterment of African-Americans, whether the issues are internal or external. IIRC, you are Asian. I don't expect you to know much about Al Sharpton (or any other black leader) other than what you see and read in the national media. This was your education for today. Food for thought, you do the dishes.

cliffnotes: "Hey I was totally wrong but you know what, fuck you anyway"

 

[Svnla]

Neither of you mentioned Sharpton. That was an error on my part (or maybe I read another post where they did mention Sharpton). Either way, that changes nothing. you both claimed that the black community was passive wrt black-on-black crimes. I disagreed. I gave you anecdotal proof. I also gave you proof from the most famous civil rights leader of today and a lightning rod for these race-based events, Al Sharpton, showing how he did his part wrt doing something about black-on-black crimes. I also showed you how he's been doing it for a long time. In case you were too slow to understand, my point was that Sharpton sought the betterment of African-Americans, whether the issues are internal or external. IIRC, you are Asian. I don't expect you to know much about Al Sharpton (or any other black leader) other than what you see and read in the national media. This was your education for today. Food for thought, you do the dishes.

I did NOT ask for Sharpton yet you provided several links.


I asked this:

Show me the links and stories (from well know media sources) of mutliple
marchings, yelling, screaming for justice of those killed from the link I
posted. Show me some speech of "if I have a son" regarding black young men that
were killed from the link I posted. Show me the stories of feverously seeking
of justice as strong and as deep as T. Martin and M. Brown cases.

And how many links/sources did you provide? Nada, Zip. Nothing but "internal" problem.I am still waiting. Look like your turn to wipe the dishes. Just like the thread about the SUV driver in NYC vs. lawless bikers, you are so ignorant and clueless.

 

[Dari]

I did NOT ask for Sharpton yet you provided several links.


I asked this:



And how many links/sources did you provide? Nada, Zip. Nothing but "internal" problem.I am still waiting. Look like your turn to wipe the dishes. Just like the thread about the SUV riders in NYC vs. lawless bikers, you are so ignorant and clueless.

Again, I provided Sharpton because he is a prominent civil rights leader. To many, he is a lightning rod for race-based issues. I'm really trying to make this easy for you. Al Sharpton makes the news. Most black leaders, especially local ones, do not. I used him as an example of how the black community is not being passive about these issues. And, if Sharpton is there, you can bet countless others are as well. you can also bet that it's a big problem

Maybe what I've said are difficult to digest but, you'll get it eventually. Don't take it all in all at once. Small morsels should suffice. I'm done with you.

 

[shortylickens]

but they wont burn the government assistance checks.

 

[Svnla]

Again, I provided Sharpton because he is a prominent civil rights leader. To many, he is a lightning rod for race-based issues. I'm really trying to make this easy for you. Al Sharpton makes the news. Most black leaders, especially local ones, do not. I used him as an example of how the black community is not being passive about these issues. And, if Sharpton is there, you can bet countless others are as well. you can also bet that it's a big problem

Maybe what I've said are difficult to digest but, you'll get it eventually. Don't take it all in all at once. Small morsels should suffice. I'm done with you.

Any links? anything at all regarding of what I REALLLY asked for? Yup, still nothing, nada, zip. Just like you. Bunch of words but nothing substantial.

Hey, you were the one that quoted me, I did NOT quote you.

Better luck next time, kiddo.

 

[Ns1]

Any links? anything at all regarding of what I REALLLY asked for? Yup, still nothing, nada, zip. Just like you. Bunch of words but nothing substantial.

Hey, you were the one that quoted me, I did NOT quote you.

Better luck next time, kiddo.

there you go again being an asshole.

 

[CZroe]

You claimed that if you didn't see it it wasn't happening. That is what I dismissed.

No. I claimed that the message wasn't being received because I am in the community and did not receive it or witness it being received. You are presenting a false narrative as if it is an impenetrable community that cannot be observed from within.

 

[Svnla]

FBI says 76 law enforcement officers died in the line of duty in 2013 = http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-says-76-l...s-died-in-line-of-duty-in-2013-195926706.html