She gave a F**king laundry list of things you could do (or not do in this case) to get a free phone.
She gave a F**king laundry list of things you could do (or not do in this case) to get a free phone.
UberNeuman
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Ah, a thread that collects the mentally ill of a gop that never was....
\moronic gop members are why the gop is worthless today....
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Throckmorton
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Where did you live? You can't walk to many employers in most places. If you're a hipster living in San Fransisco, yes.
UberNeuman
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All they have is anger... this is why the gop isn't worthy/able to run the nation...
1prophet
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If you want every American to understand what this country is up against look at the type of people Obama surrounds himself with ( Goldman Sachs former employees being one example),
this woman is just a useful idiot to steer the anger of the middle class away from those in high places who have and still are screwing them.
As for free cellphones, they should be provided with a reliable cheap phone, no i-phone types unless these companies start building them here, last thing we need is our tax dollars enriching outsourcing loving corporations by giving away expensive phones with expensive contracts on the taxpayers back.
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Thump553
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And-to make it doubly sad-the only person I know who ever got one of these free phones is my mother in law. Her son-a devoted Rush listener-learned about the program on Rush's show and signed her up for it.
Frankly a large chunk of system abusers I know are righties. Their rationale is everyone is screwing the system, I better get some for me too. Mortality and self discipline is only rhetoric for them.
Geosurface
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All human beings are racist, from birth, it's genetic and natural. Even infants will stare longer at pictures of faces from people of their own race, etc.
Some adults work harder at fighting this innate tendency than others, some are more successful than others, some have decided it's not worth fighting at all.
Even the most ardent progressive white people will almost never be found living in areas with high concentrations of blacks for instance.
What they advocate for society often is very different from what they practice in their own personal lives and who they choose to associate with.
As for members of minority groups, it's really rather easy for them to avoid being called racist because firstly, all they have to do is use "diversity" and "multiculturalism" as code words for their racism, for the time being, because they are effectively the same at this time. They advocate more diversity, the end result is more power for their group. And they got to do it without having to specifically say it in a way that might have sounded racist.
However, the more important thing shielding them from being called racist by most people is just the mere fact that they are a minority, which means that usually even if they do speak in very blatantly racist terms they will get a pass for it. White liberals can only see racism in other whites. They either cannot recognize it, or refuse to acknowledge it, no matter how virulent, when it is in a minority person or group.
Some adults work harder at fighting this innate tendency than others, some are more successful than others, some have decided it's not worth fighting at all.
Even the most ardent progressive white people will almost never be found living in areas with high concentrations of blacks for instance.
What they advocate for society often is very different from what they practice in their own personal lives and who they choose to associate with.
As for members of minority groups, it's really rather easy for them to avoid being called racist because firstly, all they have to do is use "diversity" and "multiculturalism" as code words for their racism, for the time being, because they are effectively the same at this time. They advocate more diversity, the end result is more power for their group. And they got to do it without having to specifically say it in a way that might have sounded racist.
However, the more important thing shielding them from being called racist by most people is just the mere fact that they are a minority, which means that usually even if they do speak in very blatantly racist terms they will get a pass for it. White liberals can only see racism in other whites. They either cannot recognize it, or refuse to acknowledge it, no matter how virulent, when it is in a minority person or group.
Oakenfold
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I really don't care who started it. I'm not paying for it anymore. You can waste your taxdollars on it if you want but I won't stand for this anymore.
I really don't care what the name of the party is, my vote is going for the party that supports balancing the budget, cutting government spending and improving the economy.
If you are okay with giving your tax dollars to people that think they need a cell phone that's your business. I am not okay with paying for political party ideology including the idea that everyone needs a phone.
That woman is an absolutely disgusting piece of human garbage, She must be kicked off welfare and face justice for what she has done
Geo and Spidey in one thread. Good indication that the racism is free and flowing.
But, reading all the conservative posts in this thread, makes me just wonder if people have fully thought out the outcomes of their policies. Let me be cynical for a bit. Ask yourself these questions, what would cities look like if Welfare was truly gone. In an economy where jobs are scarce, college educated people have a hard time finding work, what would people do to survive who cant find jobs? That is the same with government funding birth control. Is it cheaper to fund birth control, then to pay for emergency care, welfare, incarceration? If you believe these people were irresponsible to begin with, do you think they are somehow going to start making better decisions?
I understand people can be angry, but does anger and irrationality solve these issues?
But, reading all the conservative posts in this thread, makes me just wonder if people have fully thought out the outcomes of their policies. Let me be cynical for a bit. Ask yourself these questions, what would cities look like if Welfare was truly gone. In an economy where jobs are scarce, college educated people have a hard time finding work, what would people do to survive who cant find jobs? That is the same with government funding birth control. Is it cheaper to fund birth control, then to pay for emergency care, welfare, incarceration? If you believe these people were irresponsible to begin with, do you think they are somehow going to start making better decisions?
I understand people can be angry, but does anger and irrationality solve these issues?
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Geosurface
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emperus you explicitly and definitively revealed yourself as an enormous racist in the Trayvon thread, but you go ahead and keep enjoying the black privilege of getting to be overtly, completely racist and never be called out on it by 99% of whites.
I'm sure it is nice!
I'm sure it is nice!
There is nothing wrong with the govt providing assistance for it's citizens. There is something wrong with creating a culture of dependency. Has this culture been created on purpose or does it exist due to poorly designed and executed programs?
That woman is just disgusting, the nerve of her to steal tax dollars. She must face justice and be put in a camp
Geosurface
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I agree and I think the culture of dependency has been created due to multiple factors. Legitimate need and legitimate good will/caring for others, but also cynical vote-trolling and shortsightedness.
I personally think that people have to learn to turn off a lot of their sympathy because I think the end result of the excess of sympathy we have now will be that EVERYONE lives in starvation and squalor, and then dies. We make hard choices now, or we have far worse choices forced on us later.
Cant the government just kick this pos out of the country, she cant even speak properly. If I ever met her I would teach her some proper English
Or is it that no matter how well designed an assistance program is, some people will either take advantage of it or feel entitled to the help? And, more importantly, that people with a political axe to grind will use those people as anecdotal evidence of a non-existent "culture of dependency".
Personally I lean towards that being the likely explanation. Just look at this thread. It's FILLED with people saying we should totally end the free phone program because of the video that started the thread. Forget people for whom a government provided phone is necessary and makes a huge difference in their lives, given that having a phone is a major requirement of being an adult in our society. None of THOSE people are in a video, therefore they must not exist and the "culture of dependency" must be all there is.
I do think there is room for improvement in how these kinds of programs are run. Identifying genuine need is good, but I doubt it's as easy as people think it is. But I don't think the smart alternative is ending them.
So what "hard choices" do we have to make? Are free phones somehow the tipping point between Leave it to Beaver American utopia and Soviet style failure? And if not, where is the line actually drawn?
Believe it or not, I like the idea of smaller government and lower taxes too. But generic ranting seems like a worse approach than looking at everything the government does and honestly judging our overall return on investment and whether the program can be made more efficient, or smaller, or even bigger if it's money put to good use.
Geosurface
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I'm not just talking about the US or these specific issues of phones, etc
I'm talking about on a global scale, an unsustainable civilization and overpopulation.
I'm talking about dangerous demographic trends and cultural trends, and I'm talking about solving them in wildly unpopular ways (eugenics, carnage)
umbrella39
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So please, enlighten me on which definition of racism allows you to say I have revealed myself as an enormous racist? You just don't have any clue of anything you talk about.
Black privilege huh? I always forget about all the privileges I enjoy as a black person.
Honestly, when did this white victim-hood culture begin? Hearing you talk, you would think walking into any board room or congressional office, there would be predominately minorities sitting around the table.
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