Right Or Wrong? (Sexual Ethics)

[Hoober]

I'd say it's wrong, but I'd also say that I couldn't stand having a "schedule."

Sex is, for me, really good only when spontaneous. If you've got to plan out exactly when you're going to have it. Or if you've already had it twice that week and know that you can't have it any more, then it takes all of the fun away.

My wife's a little over halfway through her first pregnancy at the moment and isn't all that interested in sex. I don't roll her over in the middle of the night and have my way because I "need" it. I respect her enough to realize that it's her body, she can do with it what she pleases. It's my job to find other releases for that energy.

 

[timmyG]

will you retards please stop arguing about the legality of the act. no one cares. it was just a one time thing. no big deal really. why dont we just send him to the freakin electric chair for using some bad judgement one time with his wife. geesh. and certainly it's wrong to do that to the woman but i kinda feel bad for the guy. he was probably dissapointed and frustrated so he decided hed at least give it a shot.

 

[Jzero]

Strictly answering the question: Wrong.

I'll decline provision of further analysis.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: timmyG
will you retards please stop arguing about the legality of the act. no one cares. it was just a one time thing. no big deal really. why dont we just send him to the freakin electric chair for using some bad judgement one time with his wife. geesh. and certainly it's wrong to do that to the woman but i kinda feel bad for the guy. he was probably dissapointed and frustrated so he decided hed at least give it a shot.

No big deal, eh? Great, guess I'll go home and start boinking my wife while she's asleep and see how long it takes before I get the sh!t kicked out of me. The point is: it's pretty fvcking sick to do that to your wife without her consent. I don't care if he hadn't been getting any recently, it's still wrong.

 

[Hoober]

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: timmyG
will you retards please stop arguing about the legality of the act. no one cares. it was just a one time thing. no big deal really. why dont we just send him to the freakin electric chair for using some bad judgement one time with his wife. geesh. and certainly it's wrong to do that to the woman but i kinda feel bad for the guy. he was probably dissapointed and frustrated so he decided hed at least give it a shot.

No big deal, eh? Great, guess I'll go home and start boinking my wife while she's asleep and see how long it takes before I get the sh!t kicked out of me. The point is: it's pretty fvcking sick to do that to your wife without her consent. I don't care if he hadn't been getting any recently, it's still wrong.

Yep.

 

[Nitemare]

Did you let him finish?

My wife takes advantage of me all the time when I'm sleeping. Most of the time I don't even wake up or remember it.

<---sound sleeper

 

[timmyG]

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: timmyG
will you retards please stop arguing about the legality of the act. no one cares. it was just a one time thing. no big deal really. why dont we just send him to the freakin electric chair for using some bad judgement one time with his wife. geesh. and certainly it's wrong to do that to the woman but i kinda feel bad for the guy. he was probably dissapointed and frustrated so he decided hed at least give it a shot.

No big deal, eh? Great, guess I'll go home and start boinking my wife while she's asleep and see how long it takes before I get the sh!t kicked out of me. The point is: it's pretty fvcking sick to do that to your wife without her consent. I don't care if he hadn't been getting any recently, it's still wrong.

Well the way i interpreted the events it really didnt seem like a big deal. I guess that would totally depend on your definition of big deal. I stated that it was wrong right in my post. My point was, are you gonna take this guy to court and send him to jail as a rapist? Is that what you think should happen? If so, it is that type of irrational thinking that has fvcked up the legal system in the United States. Thats the type of irrational decision making that allows people to spill scalding hot coffee on their nutsack and win millions. Actually re-reading your post it seems that you are only disagreeing with statements i didnt make.

 

[Hoober]

Originally posted by: timmyG

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: timmyG
will you retards please stop arguing about the legality of the act. no one cares. it was just a one time thing. no big deal really. why dont we just send him to the freakin electric chair for using some bad judgement one time with his wife. geesh. and certainly it's wrong to do that to the woman but i kinda feel bad for the guy. he was probably dissapointed and frustrated so he decided hed at least give it a shot.

No big deal, eh? Great, guess I'll go home and start boinking my wife while she's asleep and see how long it takes before I get the sh!t kicked out of me. The point is: it's pretty fvcking sick to do that to your wife without her consent. I don't care if he hadn't been getting any recently, it's still wrong.

Well the way i interpreted the events it really didnt seem like a big deal. I guess that would totally depend on your definition of big deal. I stated that it was wrong right in my post. My point was, are you gonna take this guy to court and send him to jail as a rapist? Is that what you think should happen? If so, it is that type of irrational thinking that has fvcked up the legal system in the United States. Thats the type of irrational decision making that allows people to spill scalding hot coffee on their nutsack and win millions. Actually re-reading your post it seems that you are only disagreeing with statements i didnt make.

I'm not sure he should be sent to jail, but he needs help. And it sounds like, from Isla's posts, that he's getting it. Anybody that would simply take advantage of their wife like that, while she's sleeping, after she said no, has real issues.

 

[timmyG]

Originally posted by: Hoober

Originally posted by: timmyG

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: timmyG
will you retards please stop arguing about the legality of the act. no one cares. it was just a one time thing. no big deal really. why dont we just send him to the freakin electric chair for using some bad judgement one time with his wife. geesh. and certainly it's wrong to do that to the woman but i kinda feel bad for the guy. he was probably dissapointed and frustrated so he decided hed at least give it a shot.

No big deal, eh? Great, guess I'll go home and start boinking my wife while she's asleep and see how long it takes before I get the sh!t kicked out of me. The point is: it's pretty fvcking sick to do that to your wife without her consent. I don't care if he hadn't been getting any recently, it's still wrong.

Well the way i interpreted the events it really didnt seem like a big deal. I guess that would totally depend on your definition of big deal. I stated that it was wrong right in my post. My point was, are you gonna take this guy to court and send him to jail as a rapist? Is that what you think should happen? If so, it is that type of irrational thinking that has fvcked up the legal system in the United States. Thats the type of irrational decision making that allows people to spill scalding hot coffee on their nutsack and win millions. Actually re-reading your post it seems that you are only disagreeing with statements i didnt make.

I'm not sure he should be sent to jail, but he needs help. And it sounds like, from Isla's posts, that he's getting it. Anybody that would simply take advantage of their wife like that, while she's sleeping, after she said no, has real issues.

ya i agree and always have. well actually i think you are assuming way too much if that 1 incident = HAS REAL ISSUES. im guessing he was just playing around

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: Hoober

Originally posted by: timmyG

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: timmyG
will you retards please stop arguing about the legality of the act. no one cares. it was just a one time thing. no big deal really. why dont we just send him to the freakin electric chair for using some bad judgement one time with his wife. geesh. and certainly it's wrong to do that to the woman but i kinda feel bad for the guy. he was probably dissapointed and frustrated so he decided hed at least give it a shot.

No big deal, eh? Great, guess I'll go home and start boinking my wife while she's asleep and see how long it takes before I get the sh!t kicked out of me. The point is: it's pretty fvcking sick to do that to your wife without her consent. I don't care if he hadn't been getting any recently, it's still wrong.

Well the way i interpreted the events it really didnt seem like a big deal. I guess that would totally depend on your definition of big deal. I stated that it was wrong right in my post. My point was, are you gonna take this guy to court and send him to jail as a rapist? Is that what you think should happen? If so, it is that type of irrational thinking that has fvcked up the legal system in the United States. Thats the type of irrational decision making that allows people to spill scalding hot coffee on their nutsack and win millions. Actually re-reading your post it seems that you are only disagreeing with statements i didnt make.

I'm not sure he should be sent to jail, but he needs help. And it sounds like, from Isla's posts, that he's getting it. Anybody that would simply take advantage of their wife like that, while she's sleeping, after she said no, has real issues.

Operative words bolded.

Sleepy late-night sex can be a really cool thing under the right circumstances, but trying that after your wife has already said no while awake is pretty lame.

 

[TimmyG:] "My point was, are you gonna take this guy to court and send him to jail as a rapist? Is that what you think should happen? If so, it is that type of irrational thinking that has fvcked up the legal system in the United States. Thats the type of irrational decision making that allows people to spill scalding hot coffee on their nutsack and win millions."

"ya i agree and always have. well actually i think you are assuming way too much if that 1 incident = HAS REAL ISSUES. im guessing he was just playing around"

Yeah, why not try it with your future wife.

I'm sure you'll be praying that she doesn't have the courage to press charges. I know I would do it in all likelihood.

The fact is, a man who does stuff like this in all likelihood has a history in other aspects. He's likely to perceive his significant other as property and likely to be either verbally or physically abusive. Maybe you should try reading the background of the individuals involved? I would be persuaded if you find out that most do not fit that profile.

 

[BruinEd03]

Originally posted by: luvly
[TimmyG:] "My point was, are you gonna take this guy to court and send him to jail as a rapist? Is that what you think should happen? If so, it is that type of irrational thinking that has fvcked up the legal system in the United States. Thats the type of irrational decision making that allows people to spill scalding hot coffee on their nutsack and win millions."

"ya i agree and always have. well actually i think you are assuming way too much if that 1 incident = HAS REAL ISSUES. im guessing he was just playing around"

Yeah, why not try it with your future wife.

I'm sure you'll be praying that she doesn't have the courage to press charges. I know I would do it in all likelihood.

The fact is, a man who does stuff like this in all likelihood has a history in other aspects. He's likely to perceive his significant other as property and likely to be either verbally or physically abusive. Maybe you should try reading the background of the individuals involved? I would be persuaded if you find out that most do not fit that profile.

Timmy: This is not the irrational decision...this is called the guy violating the rights of the woman. Whether you like it or not that's the case. You can call it whatever you want, but the bottom line is it's sexual abuse. Of course it's up to her what she wants to do, but she has every right to press charges if she wants to, so please don't attack her for exercising her right to consider this...she is after all a citizen of the United States .

-Ed

 

[starwarsdad]

Originally posted by: alocurto
He should have known what he was getting into. Some people just don't like sex all the time... not me

Point granted, BUT what if both partners were happy with the physical part of the relationship prior to children, and now sex is nonexistent?

Kids change everything.

 

[timmyG]

Originally posted by: BruinEd03

Originally posted by: luvly
[TimmyG:] "My point was, are you gonna take this guy to court and send him to jail as a rapist? Is that what you think should happen? If so, it is that type of irrational thinking that has fvcked up the legal system in the United States. Thats the type of irrational decision making that allows people to spill scalding hot coffee on their nutsack and win millions."

"ya i agree and always have. well actually i think you are assuming way too much if that 1 incident = HAS REAL ISSUES. im guessing he was just playing around"

Yeah, why not try it with your future wife.

I'm sure you'll be praying that she doesn't have the courage to press charges. I know I would do it in all likelihood.

The fact is, a man who does stuff like this in all likelihood has a history in other aspects. He's likely to perceive his significant other as property and likely to be either verbally or physically abusive. Maybe you should try reading the background of the individuals involved? I would be persuaded if you find out that most do not fit that profile.

Timmy: This is not the irrational decision...this is called the guy violating the rights of the woman. Whether you like it or not that's the case. You can call it whatever you want, but the bottom line is it's sexual abuse. Of course it's up to her what she wants to do, but she has every right to press charges if she wants to, so please don't attack her for exercising her right to consider this...she is after all a citizen of the United States .

-Ed

BruinEd03 and luvly just re-read the original post. you really are a joke if you think that sexual assault charges are warranted from that description of events. of course i think its wrong and shouldnt be done like i have said before. if its like some random person on the street its one thing, but its his wife. this example is kinda a graphic example but what if they were having sex and all of a sudden the husband goes for the anal action without consent. is this another sexual assault crime to be tried in court? seems comparable to me. i think you are blowing the whole thing out of proportion. and sorry to isla for taking this thread kinda off topic.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Millennium
Thats rich... a guy who broke up with his girlfriend for giving him a blowjob is calling me mentally unstable. Whats next? Thanks for the laugh Saltboy! :evil:

Apparently you're not smart enough to actually read and comprehend my posts.

No, you just don't understand you are a moron.

 

[dirtboy]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Millennium
Thats rich... a guy who broke up with his girlfriend for giving him a blowjob is calling me mentally unstable. Whats next? Thanks for the laugh Saltboy! :evil:

Apparently you're not smart enough to actually read and comprehend my posts.

No, you just don't understand you are a moron.

Everyone knows your the biggest loser on this board.

Why don't you do us all a favor and STOP POSTING.

ktks

 

"BruinEd03 and luvly just re-read the original post. you really are a joke if you think that sexual assault charges are warranted from that description of events. of course i think its wrong and shouldnt be done like i have said before. if its like some random person on the street its one thing, but its his wife. this example is kinda a graphic example but what if they were having sex and all of a sudden the husband goes for the anal action without consent. is this another sexual assault crime to be tried in court? seems comparable to me. i think you are blowing the whole thing out of proportion. and sorry to isla for taking this thread kinda off topic."

TimmyG, get married and then try it (i.e., "porking" her whilst she's asleep) with a lady that said "no" when she was alert. I would be pleased to know what happens if you happen to run into a lady that knows her rights.

Funny I heard recently about laws passed to clear this subject. It basically said that married women too can press charges on counts of rape if they don't consent to sex from their spouses at that time. Trying is believing. Try it and tell me what happens.

Secondly, I guess you ignore the fact that in almost all cases these men have histories of verbal or physical abuses and controlling their spouses. Maybe that doesn't matter to you 'cuz you perceive it the same way.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: timmyG

Originally posted by: BruinEd03

Originally posted by: luvly
[TimmyG:] "My point was, are you gonna take this guy to court and send him to jail as a rapist? Is that what you think should happen? If so, it is that type of irrational thinking that has fvcked up the legal system in the United States. Thats the type of irrational decision making that allows people to spill scalding hot coffee on their nutsack and win millions."

"ya i agree and always have. well actually i think you are assuming way too much if that 1 incident = HAS REAL ISSUES. im guessing he was just playing around"

Yeah, why not try it with your future wife.

I'm sure you'll be praying that she doesn't have the courage to press charges. I know I would do it in all likelihood.

The fact is, a man who does stuff like this in all likelihood has a history in other aspects. He's likely to perceive his significant other as property and likely to be either verbally or physically abusive. Maybe you should try reading the background of the individuals involved? I would be persuaded if you find out that most do not fit that profile.

Timmy: This is not the irrational decision...this is called the guy violating the rights of the woman. Whether you like it or not that's the case. You can call it whatever you want, but the bottom line is it's sexual abuse. Of course it's up to her what she wants to do, but she has every right to press charges if she wants to, so please don't attack her for exercising her right to consider this...she is after all a citizen of the United States .

-Ed

BruinEd03 and luvly just re-read the original post. you really are a joke if you think that sexual assault charges are warranted from that description of events. of course i think its wrong and shouldnt be done like i have said before. if its like some random person on the street its one thing, but its his wife. this example is kinda a graphic example but what if they were having sex and all of a sudden the husband goes for the anal action without consent. is this another sexual assault crime to be tried in court? seems comparable to me. i think you are blowing the whole thing out of proportion. and sorry to isla for taking this thread kinda off topic.

Hello???? Anyone with a clue home in your head? It does not matter if it is a random person on the street or your spouse, it still constitutes rape/sexual assault if you force yourself on them without their permission. The wife has as much right to press charges as a woman on the street would if Mr. Wonderful decides to take it by force.

Would you want to be someone's wife and have your husband start cornholing you without your permission? If you told him no and he kept doing it, what would you do? Just lie there and take it? If he stops when you tell him no, then I would probably leave it at that unless it happens again. If he keeps on with it, then I would feel justified in pressing charges. Execution? That is a bit excessive but pressing charges COULD force him to get counseling for the obvious issues he's got.

Being married does not give you free rein to do whatever you like to your spouse sexually. It's still rape/sexual assault if you force yourself on your spouse when they have told you NO already.

 

[SeaSerpent]

Originally posted by: glen
I have never been pissed about waking up to a blow job.

LMAO!!
I do not have a problem with this either...my wife has been known to do this to me from time to time.

 

[styelers]

If it isn't mutual, that's rape!

 

[BatmanNate]

Frigid women are suck.

 

[sandorski]

Earlier in the thread(yesterday) I had a "smart" retort to the situation, but now that more details of the relationship and prior history of the people involved are known it would not be appropriate.

This is a messed up situation. I assume that some women(and likely few men) would have little problem with a similar situation, but that doesn't matter. When in a relationship one must respect the other persons feelings, that's just part of the "work". Sure, this probably constitutes "rape" in a legal sense, but if this is a 1 time or rare occurence event, Isla has to weigh(she seems to not want to end the relationship) the alternatives. A rape charge would end the relationship, discussing the situation and counseling(something already happening) is really the best way to deal with the issue. Perhaps bringing up "rape" as the reality of the situation would help convince the husband to not do it again, he would have to balance the "sin" of Masturbation" with "Rape" in his mind, though depending on his upbringing he might not be able to see the correlation.

Good luck Isla.

 

[dejacky]

Here's my opinion:

It shouldn't be a black and white scenario. If it's "right or wrong" all depends on the relationship you have with your husband. Assuming the worst, if your husband wants an amount of sex that you cannot provide and he feels he NEEDS this, then you will have a major relationship dilemma. Your options include either letting your husband have sex with other women (since masturbation isn't as pleasurable as REAL sex) or you can choose to get a peaceful divorce., OR you need to confront some issues with your husband alone or through psychological counseling. Again, some people like waking up to sex and other's don't...it's when you confuse "sex" with "sharing loving feelings intimately" and the understanding of these two terms with your husband that leads to indecisiveness and no resoltion. Do I believe it's okay to "pork" someone while they are sleeping? HELL NO. But, this entire outcome depends on how well you each know each other. As an aside, sex once a week seems minimal to me.


-dejacky

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Millennium
Thats rich... a guy who broke up with his girlfriend for giving him a blowjob is calling me mentally unstable. Whats next? Thanks for the laugh Saltboy! :evil:

Apparently you're not smart enough to actually read and comprehend my posts.

No, you just don't understand you are a moron.

So why is it no one is in agreement with you?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Millennium
Thats rich... a guy who broke up with his girlfriend for giving him a blowjob is calling me mentally unstable. Whats next? Thanks for the laugh Saltboy! :evil:

Apparently you're not smart enough to actually read and comprehend my posts.

No, you just don't understand you are a moron.

So why is it no one is in agreement with you?

I often agree with his statement in other threads, but your statement in this thread didn't bother me!