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jambon2006

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Computer coming soon, a few questions !

Hi, i'll have the upcoming monday a new rig coming, here are the specs :

corsair 900D
i7 3970X overclocked at 4.4ghz
Asus Rampage Extrem IV
32GO Dominator 2400MHZ
3X asus Titans OC@1284mhz coreclock
Asus Xonar Phoebus
128go Samsung pro 840 for system and 512go samsuing pro 840 for games
2tb velociraptor 10k rpm (for the rest :p)
One 1440p monitor


The 3 titans are watercooled by 480+240mm rads, the Mobo+CPU are watercooled by a 480mm (two parrallel loops)

Now I didnt do the overclock, bought the pc already built, and the company made the overclock on the graphics cards and the cpu

My questions :

Is it Worth pushing the cpu a little bit more? Will i actually make a difference (even slighty) in gaming performance ?If it makes 0 FPS difference and only improves 3d mark score i'm not really interested.If it does make a difference, i'll probably use that guide http://www.overclock.net/t/1271026/o...clocking-guide , do you guys reckon it's viable ?

What to do with the ram? Will it indeed run at2400mhz without me doing antyhing? Any overclock i can make that can make a difference in gaming (not interested in benchmarks again :p, interested in 1-2 FPS in games tho)? If so, how to do that?

thanks a lot !​
 
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Be warned, that mobo has a tiny (and hence probably whiny and irritating) fan on the chipset.
 
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Pandamonia

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jambon2006 said:
Computer coming soon, a few questions !

Hi, i'll have the upcoming monday a new rig coming, here are the specs :

corsair 900D
i7 3970X overclocked at 4.4ghz
Asus Rampage Extrem IV
32GO Dominator 2400MHZ
3X asus Titans OC@1284mhz coreclock
Asus Xonar Phoebus
128go Samsung pro 840 for system and 512go samsuing pro 840 for games
2tb velociraptor 10k rpm (for the rest :p)
One 1440p monitor


The 3 titans are watercooled by 480+240mm rads, the Mobo+CPU are watercooled by a 480mm (two parrallel loops)

Now I didnt do the overclock, bought the pc already built, and the company made the overclock on the graphics cards and the cpu

My questions :

Is it Worth pushing the cpu a little bit more? Will i actually make a difference (even slighty) in gaming performance ?If it makes 0 FPS difference and only improves 3d mark score i'm not really interested.If it does make a difference, i'll probably use that guide http://www.overclock.net/t/1271026/o...clocking-guide , do you guys reckon it's viable ?

What to do with the ram? Will it indeed run at2400mhz without me doing antyhing? Any overclock i can make that can make a difference in gaming (not interested in benchmarks again :p, interested in 1-2 FPS in games tho)? If so, how to do that?

thanks a lot !​
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I have never played a game that was enough fun to warrant a PC that costs as much as your about to spend.

Best part is that your spending likely 3 times as much as you need to. A PC for 1/3 of the cost of that one will likely be as good as yours and one with 2 SLI cards will even have more FPS in some games haha.

This is what happens when people have more money than they have computer experience or knowledge.
 
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Dunno, in a lot of the benchs i've seen 3 titans outperform 2, especially at 1440p-1600p

I perfectly understands it bother you to see clueless people wasting money like this and i'm sure there will be plenty of responses like yours, i'm fine with at as long as you can help a bit along the way :)
 
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jambon2006 said:
Dunno, in a lot of the benchs i've seen 3 titans outperform 2, especially at 1440p-1600p

I perfectly understands it bother you to see clueless people wasting money like this and i'm sure there will be plenty of responses like yours, i'm fine with at as long as you can help a bit along the way :)
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You don't have to apologize to ANYONE! My goodness that looks like a beautiful rig. Who is doing the Water cooling?

I'll say this much jambon2006, if your new rig has a hard time playing a new game, then the rest of us are in for a whole world of HURT if we try to play it! Enjoy the new rig and pictures please when you get it :biggrin:

As far as "pushing it" it's easy to adjust the multiplier in the BIOS to 45 from 44 but I would wait till you've had the machine for awhile. That thing will be so fast I really don't know if it's worth it. I also venture to guess that the builder knows what OC runs best with all of that water cooling.
 
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Pandamonia

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jambon2006 said:
Dunno, in a lot of the benchs i've seen 3 titans outperform 2, especially at 1440p-1600p

I perfectly understands it bother you to see clueless people wasting money like this and i'm sure there will be plenty of responses like yours, i'm fine with at as long as you can help a bit along the way :)
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Tri SLI has always been an odd one because given that AMD has the bigger game following now its going to be interesting to see how Tri SLI performs. 2 way has very few issues but 3 and 4 way SLI has certain games that actually take a hit on performance.

Also id go for a 1600p monitor from Dell. The new one has no input lag in game mode.

Also 4.4ghz is a very mediocre overclock for a Sandy Xtreme. id have opted for a chilled water setup on the CPU and GPU's to give some real cooling. If your going to waste this kind of money then you may as well waste it right.
 
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Maybe a silly thing that depends on your timely needs. But IB-E is coming in 2 months. So maybe it would be worth the wait.
 
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Tri SLI has always been an odd one because given that AMD has the bigger game following now its going to be interesting to see how Tri SLI performs. 2 way has very few issues but 3 and 4 way SLI has certain games that actually take a hit on performance.

Also id go for a 1600p monitor from Dell. The new one has no input lag in game mode.

Also 4.4ghz is a very mediocre overclock for a Sandy Xtreme. id have opted for a chilled water setup on the CPU and GPU's to give some real cooling. If your going to waste this kind of money then you may as well waste it right.
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The new u3014 has no input lag, it however has a lot of other issues (I'm urging you to get acquinted with those, especially after reading your first reply), wanted to try 27" before trying 30", and 27 is probably already too big for my eyes.
"Real cooling" over the classic wc i have wouldnt change much, it's voltage limitation that's holding the titans, same goes for the cpu if i want a 24/7 oc

You can find benchs with tri sli titans everywhere, 3 titans performs better overall. You can check some here http://www.anandtech.com/show/6910/origin-genesis-review-triple-titan-terror for instance.

The computer is already ordered, in fact it's almost done, so for the second time i'm not sure about the point you're trying to make - appart from me wasting money.

Maybe a silly thing that depends on your timely needs. But IB-E is coming in 2 months. So maybe it would be worth the wait.
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Didnt want to wait 2 months, i'll just upgrade whenever it feels like that cpu bottlenecks too much : P
 
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That's a beasty computer. If you ordered it pre-built and pre-OC, you shouldn't have to do anything but turn it on and start gaming.
 
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Pandamonia said:
I have never played a game that was enough fun to warrant a PC that costs as much as your about to spend.

Best part is that your spending likely 3 times as much as you need to. A PC for 1/3 of the cost of that one will likely be as good as yours and one with 2 SLI cards will even have more FPS in some games haha.

This is what happens when people have more money than they have computer experience or knowledge.
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Meh... its all relative. I'm sure someone could look at your PC and argue that a PC $200 cheaper would get you 90% the performance and so on and so on. I sure someone could look at your car and argue that a care $2000 cheaper could give 90% the performance in terms of getting from point a to point b.

Ultimately, its up to the person to determine how much he wants to spend and if he wants to put money into just luxury so be it. For all you know, the OP gives $500K a year to charity, or pays for his 3 kids to go to college selflessly, and just wants to spend a little bit on himself frivolously for once.

BTW, I have a pretty sweet, cost efficient PC right now, but as soon as I get a nice paying gig, likely will at least once in my life shell out for a sweet maingear PC or falcon northwest PC just to see what the experience is like.
 
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Arachnotronic

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Heh, enjoy your new computer, dude. It's fine as-is...doubt you'll get a lot more mileage pushing it.
 
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People do 5ghz on hexcore SB-E on extreme water.

If your chip is willing, I'm pretty sure your cooling setup is sufficient to facilitate it.

Also, with 3x titan, your bottleneck will definitely be on your cpu massively.

Any bit of extra performance you can eek out of it will be directly translated to gains.

I also think it's silly to do this kind of build so close to the release of IVB-E.
 
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pics are here! https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.623773690975437.1073741837.116401015046043&type=3

gonna ask them if its possible to remove some stuff in the frond so i can see the 2nd reservoir a bit

seems they're stuck with 4,4ghz at 1,35vcore, can the chip really be that bad? what the hell


discussing about what is silly in computers can always end up being quite tricky, but yea i "should" have waited i guess, good news is i can always upgrade later whenenver i see i can't max out a game, hopefully won't happen anytime soon : P
 
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Congratulations on your new build. It may be overkill, but it will certainly be a lot of fun to look at and talk about, and it will destroy any benchmark in its path. I hope you'll change your mind about benchmarks and post some test results when you get it.
 
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Very nice system! I'm sure you will enjoy it.

As far as whether it's worth overclocking? Why not! :) Yes, it will increase performance slightly, although obviously your system will be a beast even at stock settings. But overclocking is free performance - As long you as you don't go overboard it's also generally harmless.

edit: holy moly 3 Titans. You can give AdamK47 a run for the money :)
 
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That stupid article on the front page about which CPU is best for 1440p gaming suggested a 4770K for tripple GPU, then again it suggested an amd for a single gpu solution, lol

the lulz begin here
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yea, but they used gpus with PCI-E 2.0 for 3960x, and given how much "forcing" 3.0 improved framerate for people with 3930k (and that's with 680's so will be even better with titans i reckon), getting a 3970x was "Worth" the gamble. Either i'm missing something important or making benchs with the sb-e lacking pcie 3.0 makes no sense since the 40 pcie lanes is one of the reason people would tend to go for sb-e over anything else at the moment but its completely neglected if you limit them to pcie 2.0?


3970x over 3960x/3930k also assures me i get a C2 revision 100%, which makes the PIC-E 3.0 patch possible - can fail a bunch with youger revision.

oh well : P
 
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Congratulations on your new build. It may be overkill, but it will certainly be a lot of fun to look at and talk about, and it will destroy any benchmark in its path. I hope you'll change your mind about benchmarks and post some test results when you get it.
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they did a quick 3d mark run and it was around 27k they said, that any good? thanks !
 
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Woe that setup. From my point of view I wouldn't mess with the oc... however if it were my setup, I would try to see what the cost voltage wise to get to 4.5/4.6 it may not be worth it.. either way your gains would be very small. I really, really hope you have a mean fiber connection to go with all that power.
 
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Can get 20 ms on basically every bf3 server in europe

i've got 2s brain delay when it comes to reflexes tho, will have to work on that : P
 
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jambon2006, first THANK YOU for posting those picture. That rig is a work of art. Do you intend to use it or venerate it! Seriously, an absolutely beautiful machine. Intel has their own oververclocking utility software http://www.intel.com/content/www/us...p-boards-software-extreme-tuning-utility.html

When you get that rig install the Intel software run the stress test for @1 hr and monitor your temps. It will tell you if it is stable or not. If stable then move the clock multiplier to 45, bump the additional turbo voltage up very slightly and run another hour watching temps etc.

I had my 3770k at 44 x 100 and upped it to 45 by 100 with this same technique. I "only" use a Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme cooler. Your rig has incredible cooling capacity BUT has a lot of heat producing parts ( 3970k OC'd and 3 Titans). I bet you'll be fine.

Bottom line, you have an incredible rig that should be a BEAST not only in gameplay but for multithread apps.
 
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