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Rick Perry

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Who would you vote for if it were Rick Perry vs. Barack Obama?

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Nebor said:
Like I'm going to listen to statistics and numbers regarding unemployment being spouted by a high school drop out. 🙄
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I guess I did fail to mention I am working on a graduate and professional degree. Ranked fairly high in my class I might add. What I am saying is I am not exactly an idiot.
 
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a777pilot said:
That makes no sense at all. Why then, would you support a person, Bobo, the Post Turtle, when he is all about supporting the muslim radicals in their quest for a world wide Caliphate? That's the most dangerous and freedom hating religion on the face of the earth.
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No clue what you're even talking about, but I have a feeling it's like an ultra-partisan 45IQ knee-jerk rant against whatever D currently occupies whatever seat you're discussing.
 
Wreckem said:
I guess I did fail to mention I am working on a graduate and professional degree. Ranked fairly high in my class I might add. What I am saying is I am not exactly an idiot.
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I don't know what you're worried about then, skilled unemployment is virtually a non-issue.
 
Nebor said:
I don't know what you're worried about then, skilled unemployment is virtually a non-issue.
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Personally I am not worried about finding a job.

However, I disagree with your statement. Thats another issue though. Unemployment does not accurately reflect those trying to get their first jobs out of college. Outside of engineering people undergrad and grad alike are having tough times finding jobs. Even at A&M and UT.

What I am trying to say is Perry is not some gift of god to the GOP. He is not. Not if you look at his true record and the real numbers.
 
Hey PJ your 'phantom' comment about Texas education facts/figures

you missed this one - Texas fails to graduate 1 out of every 3 HS students

factor that into your little schedule about how well they are performing

they are ranked 43/50 in that category - SC is last
 
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PrinceofWands said:
No clue what you're even talking about, but I have a feeling it's like an ultra-partisan 45IQ knee-jerk rant against whatever D currently occupies whatever seat you're discussing.
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If you don't know what I'm talking about then you really must read and study more.

I'll give you some hints....

Yemen

Egypt

Libya

Tunisia

Syria

vis-a-vis the muslim Brotherhood.

What do all of these countries have in common regarding their government.
 
NeoV said:
Hey PJ your 'phantom' comment about Texas education facts/figures

you missed this one - Texas fails to graduate 1 out of every 3 HS students

factor that into your little schedule about how well they are performing

they are ranked 43/50 in that category - SC is last
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Your source is highly suspect. Here's the first one I came across. You may want to read the section titled "Problematic Calculations".

http://www.all4ed.org/files/Texas_wc.pdf
 
Wreckem said:
The states own numbers show there will be atleast 335,000 people losing their jobs just because of the recently passed budget. Also Texas unemployment is at 8%, so I am not sure what the fuck you are smoking. Texas unemployment is expected to eventually hit close to the national average(9%).
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Which is a bunch of bullcrap. Most of those jobs are school related. The school district I live in had newspaper headlines and marches by students due to staffing "cuts" about 2 months ago. Guess what? The schools "found" additional money and now most of those teachers have already been hired back. did the media report this? Very briefly.

So, you're saying the jobless rate is going to abruptly change course from what it's experienced the last 7 months?

There are some things I won't defend Perry on, but right now, he's probably the best choice for the Repubs.
 
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CPA said:
Which is a bunch of bullcrap. Most of those jobs are school related. The school district I live in had newspaper headlines and marches by students due to staffing "cuts" about 2 months ago. Guess what? The schools "found" additional money and now most of those teachers have already been hired back. did the media report this? Very briefly.
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Actually you are completely wrong on it being bull crap or just school related. Show me that the over 13,000 public school employees that have already been laid off(fired) have been hired back, and more aren't still being laid off? You cannot. Because it hasn't happened.

You obviously do not follow state politics because public schools are still in circling patterns on further layoffs until the lege passes their school finance package in the special session. Public schools still do not know how much they will have next year because the Lege has not decided on a formula for making the $4billion+ in cuts. Public schools are now working with two sets of numbers based off the two potential school financing formulas. There will be further public school layoffs.

As for the ~335k, its the states own projections of which 198k or so are state employees being let go and the rest(165k) are jobs from private companies that depend on state money. Also, if I remember correctly only approx 35,000-50,000 were projected to be from public schools. The rest are from higher ed, health and human services, and other state agencies. These are the projections from the state, not me.

I will say the state has not issued an updated report, mainly because not everything is sorted out, but the only significant changes in the budget compromise were for public education, so you still have all the rest of the figures by in large the same, which means those depending on state money or are in state agencies suffering massive cuts are still going to be let go.

You have to understand, Texas gutted quite a few agencies. Some got completely zero'd out, others got 80% cuts, some got less but cuts equal jobs lost. In addition one prison was shut down and three youth facilities will be shut down. Most of those working in those four facilities will be laid of Sept 1, 2011. There will be an uptick of unemployment.
 
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Poor teabaggers 🙁 no matter how hard you scream Perry isn't going to run in 2012 and has stated so repeatedly, and as recently as 5/27. And even though it seems he is polling well with the kooks on ATP&N he doesn't do so well in legitimate national polls.
 
Wreckem said:
Actually you are completely wrong on it being bull crap or just school related. Show me that the over 13,000 public school employees that have already been laid off have been hired back, and more aren't still being laid off? You cannot. Because it hasn't happened.

You obviously do not follow state politics because public schools are still in circling patterns on further layoffs until the lege passes their school finance package in the special session. Public schools still do not know how much they will have next year because the Lege has not decided on a formula for making the $4billion+ in cuts. Public schools are now working with two sets of numbers based off the two potential school financing formulas. There will be further public school layoffs.

As for the ~335k, its the states own projections of which 168k or so are state employees being let go and the rest are jobs from private companies that depend on state money. Also, only approx 35,000 were projected to be from public schools. The rest are from higher ed, health and human services, and other state agencies. These are the projections from the state, not me.

I will say the state has not issued an updated report, but the only significant changes in the budget compromise were for public education, so you still have all the rest of the figures by in large the same, which means those depending on state money or are in state agencies suffering massive cuts are still going to be let go.
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Let's see if those numbers hold true in 6-9 months. I'm not holding my breath that they do. And again, it would take a major change of events beyond the new fiscal budget to reverse the 7 month trend of downward unemployment to get us over 9% in that period.
 
CPA said:
Let's see if those numbers hold true in 6-9 months. I'm not holding my breath that they do. And again, it would take a major change of events beyond the new fiscal budget to reverse the 7 month trend of downward unemployment to get us over 9% in that period.
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I never said we get over 9. I said we'd get near the national average. This all started because people said Texas is better off. That's the perception but not the reality. Texas is middle of the pack for unemployment and will be losing jobs over the next ~year or so.

Perry touts Texas gained jobs, which there has been a net of 265k, but he fails to mention the state estimates there will be losses counteracting that. Its completely dishonest. Its completely dishonest to say Texas is better off than anyone as well. That seems to be the perception but that is not the actual reality. The reality is, the recession was slow to hit Texas and the oil industry booming helped counter some of it. Texas' problems have been glossed over by Perry and the leadership in Austin.

And honestly, this "recovery" isn't much of a recovery and I doubt it is going to sustain itself. And the 2013 budget likely won't be much better. What are they going to do then? Sooner or later Texas WILL have to address it's structural problems because growth has outstripped revenue and will continue to do so. They've known about this impending problem for years and never did anything. Now they make cuts gutting most everything. Still no sight of legitimately fixing the states problems. And that doesn't even get into the local bond issues where many localities are way over-leveraged.
 
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Jaskalas said:
Voting in opposition to the incumbent is not enough. In that case you'll get Bobo with an R after his name. You need to clearly understand just how similar Obama's policies are to Bush.
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I agree that there is some truth to that.

But I think people overlook the huge importance of those whom the President chooses to conduct important policy for the USA. Geithner, Holder and the whole Goldman Sachs group are good examples of the wrong people for the job.

Fern
 
I just thought I'd add another comment about Perry. The most recent polls show the majority of Texans do not support Perry.

His current approval rating in Texas is 41%(12% strongly approve) and 42% disapprove(28% strongly disapprove).

Also registered Republicans prefer Palin, Huckabee, and Paul(and a bunch of others) over him.
 
I'd just like to point out that Texas hit 8.4% unemployment in July.

Highest unemployment in Texas since the 1987.
 
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