Rick Perry

Who would you vote for if it were Rick Perry vs. Barack Obama?

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  • Rick Perry

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TalonStrike

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There are a lot of rumors going around that he might run for president. I think it would actually make a lot of sense for him to run. Economically speaking, Texas has done quite well under Rick Perry. His economic record would immediately look better than Romney, whose state was 47th in the country for job creation while he was governor, and Tim Pawlenty, who left Minnesota with a huge state deficit. Also, Perry would be able to win over the Tea Party people better than a candidate like Romney could. However, Perry has made some wild statements about secession, and let's not forget how things went the last time a Republican governor from Texas became president.
 

a777pilot

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There are a lot of rumors going around that he might run for president. I think it would actually make a lot of sense for him to run. Economically speaking, Texas has done quite well under Rick Perry. His economic record would immediately look better than Romney, whose state was 47th in the country for job creation while he was governor, and Tim Pawlenty, who left Minnesota with a huge state deficit. Also, Perry would be able to win over the Tea Party people better than a candidate like Romney could. However, Perry has made some wild statements about secession, and let's not forget how things went the last time a Republican governor from Texas became president.

I would gladly take back that former Texas Governor as President over what we are stuck with now.

Perry has made some wild statements about secession...

Wild is sort of relative....May I suggest reading the following:

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
 
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Rick Perry....

BTW... WTF is Rick Perry?

JK... I'm done voting. Until someone gives me a plan on how we dig ourselves out of this hole I'm not interested. I'm not even sure I see myself living here 10 years from now.
 

a777pilot

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Rick Perry....

BTW... WTF is Rick Perry?

JK... I'm done voting. Until someone gives me a plan on how we dig ourselves out of this hole I'm not interested. I'm not even sure I see myself living here 10 years from now.

If you don't participate and vote, why are you complaining?

Also, if you don't like it here then why wait? Leave now.
 
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If you don't participate and vote, why are you complaining?

Also, if you don't like it here then why wait? Leave now.

I'm in a good position to ride it to rock bottom. I make my living off the top 1% of the top 1%.

But they will leave... and I will follow.

Besides, what am I voting for? Doom in 5 years vs doom in 10 years... Not much of a choice. When someone give me a plan on how to solve this shit I'll listen.
 

ProfJohn

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Rick Perry is a strange politician who actually understands that there is a 10th amendment and even stranger he thinks it should be applied far more often than it is.

Also, Bush and Perry nearly hate each other. They are polar opposites when it comes to their Republican views.

I think Perry cleans up in the primary and wins the general election too, but the general is more dependent on the economy and it could turn around in the next year.
 

NeoV

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Rick Perry? Yes, Texas is currently a hot-spot for corporations because of their tax code - but....

Check out the deficit in Texas - can't hammer the Dems on that when you have a whopper yourself

Check out the education rates in TX - scary stuff

He's a decent candidate - compared to the current GOP cast of clowns, but he's by no means a sure thing
 

NeoV

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why would an article be a must-read 'for any conservative or Repub out there'

why wouldn't it be a must-read for anyone interested in Politics?

that simple statement is a snap-shot of what's wrong with America today.

the job of our elected officials is to do what is best for the PEOPLE - not for their party.
 

ProfJohn

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Check out the education rates in TX - scary stuff
Let's compare the education rates in Texas to that of Wisconsin.

The following are scores from the National Assessment of Educational Progress which breaks the score down by race.
http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/
2009 4th Grade Math

White students: Texas 254, Wisconsin 250 (national average 248)
Black students: Texas 231, Wisconsin 217 (national 222)
Hispanic students: Texas 233, Wisconsin 228 (national 227)

2009 8th Grade Math

White students: Texas 301, Wisconsin 294 (national 294)
Black students: Texas 272, Wisconsin 254 (national 260)
Hispanic students: Texas 277, Wisconsin 268 (national 260)

2009 4th Grade Reading

White students: Texas 232, Wisconsin 227 (national 229)
Black students: Texas 213, Wisconsin 192 (national 204)
Hispanic students: Texas 210, Wisconsin 202 (national 204)

2009 8th Grade Reading

White students: Texas 273, Wisconsin 271 (national 271)
Black students: Texas 249, Wisconsin 238 (national 245)
Hispanic students: Texas 251, Wisconsin 250 (national 248)

2009 4th Grade Science

White students: Texas 168, Wisconsin 164 (national 162)
Black students: Texas 139, Wisconsin 121 (national 127)
Hispanic students: Wisconsin 138, Texas 136 (national 130)

2009 8th Grade Science

White students: Texas 167, Wisconsin 165 (national 161)
Black students: Texas 133, Wisconsin 120 (national 125)
Hispanic students: Texas 141, Wisconsin 134 (national 131)

So the children of Texas outscored the children of Wisconsin in 17 out of 18 categories. And they out scored the national average in all 18 categories.

We can go further and look at state drop out rates as well, again Texas v. Wisconsin v. Nation as a whole.

Event Dropout Rates for 9th-12th graders during 2006-7 school year:

White students: Texas 1.9%, Wisconsin 1.2% (national average 3.0%)
Black students: Texas 5.8%, Wisconsin 7.8% (national 6.8%)
Hispanic students: Texas 5.6%, Wisconsin 5.2% (national 6.5%)

And again Texas beat the national average in every category and beats Wisconsin in 2 out of 3. (BTW Wisconsin has the worst black 4th grade reading level in the country. http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/89007417.html)

Disclaimer: I didn't come up with all these wonderful numbers. Credit goes to this guy http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/03/longhorns-17-badgers-1.html
NAEP results can be found here: http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/
 

ProfJohn

Lifer
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why would an article be a must-read 'for any conservative or Repub out there'

why wouldn't it be a must-read for anyone interested in Politics?

that simple statement is a snap-shot of what's wrong with America today.

the job of our elected officials is to do what is best for the PEOPLE - not for their party.
I said conservatives and Republicans because the liberal members of the board will ignore everything in it and find something else to complain about or throw out false flags such as the education one you did.
 

Texashiker

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Both have shown that they will bow to special interest, so I can vote for neither one.

Given the 2 options between perry and obama, I will have to vote for the Libertarian candidate.
 

a777pilot

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I don't care who the GOP puts up as their candidate. I will willingly/happily/gratefully vote for anyone but O.

Also, I will do all that I can to support candidates whereby the GOP increases their majority in the House by a minimum of 30 seats and takes control of the Senate by gaining a minimum of 12 seats.

This country can get out of the fix we find ourselves but first we need to get rid of Bobo, the Post Turtle.
 

a777pilot

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Both have shown that they will bow to special interest, so I can vote for neither one.

Given the 2 options between perry and obama, I will have to vote for the Libertarian candidate.

Which is in effect a vote for O.
 

Texashiker

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Which is in effect a vote for O.

I vote for real change, a vote for the democraps or republicants is a vote for business as usual.

One thing about rick perry, with him you dont have to worry about any anti-gun laws getting passed.
 

ElFenix

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governor good hair is an empty suit. anyone who thinks the governor actually has control over policy in this state is living in a fantasy land.

well, perry might have some power as he's now appointed every appointee there is, no holdovers from the previous admin. but he's been riding texas a&m into the ground (which the aggies took because he was one of their hitler youth cheerleaders), and after doing that for years tried to ride UT into the ground (strongly rebuked by the UT alumni and the aggies have finally figured out his policies aren't that good for a&m so they got on board as well, finally).
 

a777pilot

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I vote for real change, a vote for the democraps or republicants is a vote for business as usual.

One thing about rick perry, with him you dont have to worry about any anti-gun laws getting passed.

That's a good thing. That's reason enough to vote for him right there.
 

a777pilot

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governor good hair is an empty suit. anyone who thinks the governor actually has control over policy in this state is living in a fantasy land.

well, perry might have some power as he's now appointed every appointee there is, no holdovers from the previous admin. but he's been riding texas a&m into the ground (which the aggies took because he was one of their hitler youth cheerleaders), and after doing that for years tried to ride UT into the ground (strongly rebuked by the UT alumni and the aggies have finally figured out his policies aren't that good for a&m so they got on board as well, finally).

Everything you say may be right but he is still a breath of fresh air when compaired to our current Fool, Bobo, the Post Turtle.
 

Nebor

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I like him more than Obama, even though he's really just an empty suit with big hair.

Like one of the above posters though, I don't vote, so I don't really care.
 

Jaskalas

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He's a decent candidate - compared to the current GOP cast of clowns, but he's by no means a sure thing

I agree. I'll need time and to see him campaign before deciding if he's worthy. By then I'll know enough of his policy.
 

a777pilot

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I agree. I'll need time and to see him campaign before deciding if he's worthy. By then I'll know enough of his policy.

I've seen the policies and practices of that Fool, Bobo, the Post Turtle. That more than enough for me to want to vote for anyone but O.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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I've seen the policies and practices of that Fool, Bobo, the Post Turtle. That more than enough for me to want to vote for anyone but O.

Voting in opposition to the incumbent is not enough. In that case you'll get Bobo with an R after his name. You need to clearly understand just how similar Obama's policies are to Bush.

Voting Republican is not enough. The candidate himself needs to be conservative and not just speak like one. We've been betrayed before, and we as voters will betray ourselves if we do not take that lesson to heart.

ANYONE is not enough. There is more than one Bobo out there, and I fear you are foolish enough to vote for one if he sweet talks you.