RIAA: You've read about it, but how do we protect ourselves?

[RIGorous1]

Ok I know alot of you have seen the RIAA posts all over ATOT, but no one has started a thread about what we can do to protect ourselves. It sounds crazy but I find myself avoiding Kazaa lately because of this, and I bet there are others who feel the same way.

So what do you suppose we can do? or is the best option to abstain? Do we legally stand a chance if we get a subpoena?

 

[Yossarian]

you're joking right? stop downloading copyrighted material. problem solved.

 

[Heisenberg]

*cough* open proxy *cough*

 

[neutralizer]

no just stop downloading from kazaa...
hehe usenet

 

[RIGorous1]

no, its not about that.... besides I can back up all my items with a physical bought copy, I sh!t you not... I have an entire closet full of cds, but who's going to buy a 1000 disc cd changer? Nevertheless, situations like this if you really are just backing-up your files, then are you safe even if you get subpoenaed?

 

[Nocturnal]

I stopped downloading music from Kazaa after I heard they are going after EVERYONE. I don't download anymore, and I've even told family memebers to stop. I can live without music. I listen to the radio!

 

[neutralizer]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I stopped downloading music from Kazaa after I heard they are going after EVERYONE. I don't download anymore, and I've even told family memebers to stop. I can live without music. I listen to the radio!

ew.. radio is such crappy quality. inet radio would be better, but usenet is rocks.

 

[Soybomb]

I've just chopped up a person and have the bits and pieces in my tub, how can I protect myself?

 

[Tret]

Who ever has kazaa or whatever uninstall now

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
no, its not about that.... besides I can back up all my items with a physical bought copy, I sh!t you not... I have an entire closet full of cds, but who's going to buy a 1000 disc cd changer? Nevertheless, situations like this if you really are just backing-up your files, then are you safe even if you get subpoenaed?

"Backing up your files" is specifically listed in the copyright laws as making one single copy of the CD. If you have all the CDs that you *say* you have, then just download something like Exact Audio Copy, download LAME, install both, and rip right from the CDs? You can specify better quality than what's out there. And you're guaranteed to have all the songs off of a single album, too.

Really, there's no reason to use Kazaa or any other p2p file-sharing program. Not backup purposes, or any other lame bullsh|t excuse I've ever heard.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Tret
Who ever has kazaa or whatever uninstall now

Yes sir! Right away Sir! Ahoy and Ahead Full and stuff, Sir!

 

[dartworth]

Originally posted by: Tret
Who ever has kazaa or whatever uninstall now

:Q...nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[Kaervak]

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
Nevertheless, situations like this if you really are just backing-up your files, then are you safe even if you get subpoenaed?

IIRC, no. You can have a backup copy of the cd you bought from that cd, but you can't download the MP3's of it. The backup must come from the copy you have.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Kaervak

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
Nevertheless, situations like this if you really are just backing-up your files, then are you safe even if you get subpoenaed?

IIRC, no. You can have a backup copy of the cd you bought from that cd, but you can't download the MP3's of it. The backup must come from the copy you have.

Right.

If you've got the CD, why do you even BOTHER with those programs? Do you LIKE to suffer through poor quality MP3s!?

 

[Feldenak]

Stop stealing

 

[Vic]

Uninstall all P2P programs. Cease sharing files. Use a hardware firewall (at the very least a NAT router). You are now "protected."

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Kaervak

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
Nevertheless, situations like this if you really are just backing-up your files, then are you safe even if you get subpoenaed?

IIRC, no. You can have a backup copy of the cd you bought from that cd, but you can't download the MP3's of it. The backup must come from the copy you have.

that's kind of dumb imo. what's the difference?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Stop stealing

Nobody is stealing. P2P programs violate COPYRIGHT LAWS, not theft. Theft is defined as the REMOVAL OF PROPERTY. Nothing is being removed. It is being copied.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Kaervak

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
Nevertheless, situations like this if you really are just backing-up your files, then are you safe even if you get subpoenaed?

IIRC, no. You can have a backup copy of the cd you bought from that cd, but you can't download the MP3's of it. The backup must come from the copy you have.

So rip the mp3's from the original CD you already own. How hard is that? Hell, that takes me less than 3 minutes per CD now.

And it's not downloading that the RIAA is going after, it's file-sharing, i.e. those who make copyrighted files available for uploading.

 

[Kaervak]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Kaervak

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
Nevertheless, situations like this if you really are just backing-up your files, then are you safe even if you get subpoenaed?

IIRC, no. You can have a backup copy of the cd you bought from that cd, but you can't download the MP3's of it. The backup must come from the copy you have.

that's kind of dumb imo. what's the difference?

I guess from their standpoint if you can't make a backup from your CD then you'll have to buy it again. More money for them. Whenever I buy a new CD, the first thing I do when I get home is make a copy and put the original in my CD tower.

 

[Tab]

Great Thread! Lets help are the thievs in this world!

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Stop stealing

Nobody is stealing. P2P programs violate COPYRIGHT LAWS, not theft. Theft is defined as the REMOVAL OF PROPERTY. Nothing is being removed. It is being copied.

Fine Sparky, then stop violating copyright laws.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Stop stealing

Nobody is stealing. P2P programs violate COPYRIGHT LAWS, not theft. Theft is defined as the REMOVAL OF PROPERTY. Nothing is being removed. It is being copied.

Wow... we agree on something

 

[dartworth]

Originally posted by: Tabb
Great Thread! Lets help are the thievs in this world!

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Stop stealing

Nobody is stealing. P2P programs violate COPYRIGHT LAWS, not theft. Theft is defined as the REMOVAL OF PROPERTY. Nothing is being removed. It is being copied.

Fine Sparky, then stop violating copyright laws.

Who said that he was? And where did he advocate violating copyright laws? He advocated Fair Use is all I saw. And he advised AGAINST downloading. Where is your issue?