Yep, the mac address of the external facing interface, not the mac address of any clients behind the router.
Yep, the mac address of the external facing interface, not the mac address of any clients behind the router.
Your ISP logs such activity down. They know when you had which IP address, so you're pretty much hopeless.
OH come on, the people who are getting nailed when they aren't guilty are what.. 1 in 500 when compared to those who get caught AND are guilty? Please, don't bring that in here.
I think most people are reluctant to stop pirating (movies, tv shows, music, etc) and so I don't see why we can't just admit it's wrong. Stop blaming hte RIAA and MPAA for charging ripoff prices. IF you don't like their policies, fight it, but don't do something illegal. This is almost like immigration law. People fought that house resolution so viciously, but in the end they did so just because they avoided the whole point that if you cross the border illegally, what you did was wrong.
Your ISP can't see behind your router. You can have 100 people connecting to your wifi router and your ISP only sees one IP (the IP address they assigned to the person that requested the broadband service). For instance, if someone connects to their neighbor's AP, the ISP records will only show traffic from the IP they assigned to the router, that's it. They have no idea if there are 1 or 100 people behind that router. So yeah, what is hopeless is the RIAA method of tracking down offenders.
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98 of the time they dont got any proof, jsut first ask them for proof and then say your naighbors use it also. But they can say its in your name and your responsible. Who knows
Wow, that's amazing. I wonder if anyone that "stole" music were infected with Sony's trojan? Oh yeah, the people that actually BOUGHT the music were the ones that got fvcked over.
Give me a break. I BOUGHT my DVDs, but according to the MPAA and the bullsh!t laws they forced through, I can't rip them to whatever format I want. I BOUGHT the movie and I'll rip it to whatever format I want. Fvck them!
Don't give me this "what does one have to do with the other" crap. My point is, the people that actually abided by the law and did the right thing were screwed over, HARD. And in the end, Sony pretty much got off scot free. They have also been found guilty of price fixing on more than one occasion. I have no sympathy for these people. And I hope they go down, HARD.
Buy the music directly from the artist either through their website or at a concert. That way they get most of the profit.
P2P is bad, but what does everyone think of IRC? #MP3
P2P is bad, but what does everyone think of IRC? #MP3
What are you talking about? How is ripping a DVD stealing someone's IP? You are also aware television executives feel skipping commercials on a show you recorded is "stealing" also? Give me a freakin' break.
Amused
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I didn't say it was. But since most theft is from people ripping CDs to post on the web for anyone to take, they tried to stop it.
Again, your beef is with the thieves who caused companies to try and protect themselves in this way.
At any rate, none of this is a valid reason for theft.
Yeah, and none of it gave the RIAA the right to legally steal from customers and plant trojans (viruses) on their customer's PCs, but they did it anyway. So what's your point?
Amused
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My point is that YOU have no point. None of this is a valid reason for theft. If you don't want to be sued for stealing music, don't steal it.
That you don't like the business practices of the record companies is irrelevant. That does not give anyone a valid excuse for theft.
Bottom line, as long as the content creators insist on treating legitimate customers as criminals and pushing legislation to eliminate my fair use rights, I'll continue to refuse to buy their products and simply download everything for free. I refuse to be punished for legally purchasing something (like in the Sony fiasco), I'll download it for free or purchase a DRM-free product.
The RIAA and MPAA have gone after lots of folks, many of which did not do anything wrong. They bully people into settling, and at the same time try to push legislation to further restrict the rights of those they haven't been able to nail. Anything that goes against them is a good thing in my book.
The RIAA and MPAA have gone after lots of folks, many of which did not do anything wrong. They bully people into settling, and at the same time try to push legislation to further restrict the rights of those they haven't been able to nail. Anything that goes against them is a good thing in my book.
So you think planting a virus on their customers' machines is justified? And how was price fixing downloader's fault? In the mean time, they are trampling all over people's fair use rights, but the downloaders are viewed as the real criminals. Give me a freakin' break.
Oh, I have a point, you just choose to ignore it. My point is, two wrong's don't make a right...it just makes you even.
Please don't confuse using a router with eliminating the evidence. There are still MANY ways that can prove or disprove your involvement in illegal file-sharing.
Wanna know what caused me to stop using IRC? An ABC news report of an FBI investigation of filesharing on IRC that showed video of an agent browsing through a channel I opped in. The further you get into it, the more people you know go to jail. I'll stick to purchasing my music/movies/games thank you.
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