RIAA hitting us hard, already 3-4 people got Subpoenas, just read

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Nocturnal

Lifer
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Well why doesn't everyone just boycott the crap out of the RIAA and everyone of their artists' music? I know it's very hard to get this out there. Too bad something like "Truth" wouldn't come about and do something against the RIAA.
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: ROTC1983
Originally posted by: jliechty
Originally posted by: ROTC1983
Originally posted by: Paulson
What I hope is that buymusic.com really picks up, and the RIAA can't get it's hands on the internet market (where they would make more money than just getting a certain percentage of the money)

If the RIAA is so hampered by low sales...
Sales aren't especially low, they're just lower than they were a few years ago. Instead of thinking logically and realizing that the sh!tty economy is the major part of the problem, the RIAA is trying to sue every file sharer and their brother (and their parents). Not the best way to solve the supposed "problem," IMHO.
They don't seem to have much common sense. Who is in charge of the RIAA right now? I might have to look that up.
The RIAA is nowhere as big as you might think. Their sales for last year were down to $14 billion last year compared to their all-time high of $16 billion in '99. All things considered, it's easy to see that the poor economy is largely responsible, NOT file-sharing. In fact, the RIAA's all-time sales record occurred during the early peak of Napster's popularity.

The problem here is that the RIAA wants to be able to have a sales model like the MPAA. They want to be able to make a crappy product, hype it like hell, and then have everyone celebrate and buy it the day it comes out. The problem is that a new album is not like a night at the theater. They have to live with the fact that people want good music, created by talented artists who have a lot of say about their own content, and people want to be able to listen to samples of the music before they buy it. The RIAA felt that electronic music files over the internet were a threat to their desired business model, even if they were the ones selling them.

Remember 10 or so years ago when your geek friends told you that someday you'd be able to listen to any song you wanted to or any movie you wanted to at any time you wanted to? Having grown up in the '70s with AM radio and a 19" black and white TV with 4 channels (plus PBS), I had looked forward to that someday all my life. Well, "that someday" was 3 years ago, but some asshole business execs decided to make it illegal because they wouldn't be able to control it the way they wanted to.
Thank you, RIAA/MPAA :|
 

csyberblue

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Aug 1, 2002
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Originally posted by: yukichigai
Originally posted by: Zebo
Everyone should fight the RIAA they will go bankrupt. It's not that hard to file motions and defend yourself even if your willing to put the time in. It will cost them big bucks too for each case. I don't wish this on anyone though.

File leins. I can't remember what kind specifically, but their is a lein you can file on property which is free to file, save the cost of postage and the paper to print the form on. There was an environmentalist who filed no less than 25,000 leins on a single company to protest its dumping policy. It took them about 5 minutes to get each lein reversed in court, but that's 5 minutes times 25,000, not to mention legal costs of the proceedings.

Someone who's law savvy should look this crap up.

genius idea. My dad was pissed off at a bank company one year, so he took out all the money from that bank, but kept 10 cents in. The bank still sends him an account statement every once in a while telling him that he has a dime in the bank. It's funny because it takes more than that just to mail off the letter. If something tricky like what you stated could be done a huge scale, it could actually make a difference.
 

ROTC1983

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Oct 2, 2002
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Thanks for the info Vic. I hope they get their acts straight and attempt to solve this issue from a different angle. Someone mentioned earlier though, they might already be in too deep.
 

jagr10

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Jan 21, 2001
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The RIAA makes more money from these fines than they do with cd sales so I guess this is a better business strategy.

 

Linux23

Lifer
Apr 9, 2000
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they simple want to have control over everything, and that is why we aren't able to legally purchase music. sad really because this could be big business.
 

yukichigai

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Apr 23, 2003
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Originally posted by: Vic
Remember 10 or so years ago when your geek friends told you that someday you'd be able to listen to any song you wanted to or any movie you wanted to at any time you wanted to? Having grown up in the '70s with AM radio and a 19" black and white TV with 4 channels (plus PBS), I had looked forward to that someday all my life. Well, "that someday" was 3 years ago, but some asshole business execs decided to make it illegal because they wouldn't be able to control it the way they wanted to.
Thank you, RIAA/MPAA :|

Just so you know, most of the movie industry has seen the writing on the wall. Looks like the MPAA wasn't able to hold it back as well as the RIAA did.
 

neutralizer

Lifer
Oct 4, 2001
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If I do have mp3s on my computer as backup and I don't have kazaa, RIAA can't do anything, right?
 

yukichigai

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Apr 23, 2003
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Originally posted by: neutralizer
If I do have mp3s on my computer as backup and I don't have kazaa, RIAA can't do anything, right?

As of yet they haven't started actively hacking people's computers, so while they could theoretically do something they aren't going to.
 

SWScorch

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May 13, 2001
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RIAA should die twenty-two thousand horrible painful agonizing deaths. I hate them with a passion. Not because they want to protect their assets, but becasue they're being boneheaded pricks about it. Death to them all. Let the artists start a recording association.
 

wfbberzerker

Lifer
Apr 12, 2001
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what i dont understand is that you can be fined anywhere from $750 to $15,000 per song you have on your computer. shouldn't a judge overturn this decision? it seems absurd to me that the music industry could justify that they're losing that much revenue PER SONG.
 

DanFungus

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Jul 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: yukichigai
Originally posted by: Zebo
Everyone should fight the RIAA they will go bankrupt. It's not that hard to file motions and defend yourself even if your willing to put the time in. It will cost them big bucks too for each case. I don't wish this on anyone though.

File leins. I can't remember what kind specifically, but their is a lein you can file on property which is free to file, save the cost of postage and the paper to print the form on. There was an environmentalist who filed no less than 25,000 leins on a single company to protest its dumping policy. It took them about 5 minutes to get each lein reversed in court, but that's 5 minutes times 25,000, not to mention legal costs of the proceedings.

Someone who's law savvy should look this crap up.

wow, this sounds really interesting. If anyone finds info on this, I'd love to read about it :D
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: wfbberzerker
what i dont understand is that you can be fined anywhere from $750 to $15,000 per song you have on your computer. shouldn't a judge overturn this decision? it seems absurd to me that the music industry could justify that they're losing that much revenue PER SONG.

They're not. And they're raping my wallet every time I buy a sh|tty album just to find that one good song that I like. Maybe I should sue them?
 

Electrode

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May 4, 2001
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The last time I used Kazaa was back when they were offering a Linux client, shortly after they shut out Morpheus. Am I fairly safe?
 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Do you get a free pass if you were sharing Liza Mineli or DMB songs?

Nope. Just the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Yeah but they actually have songs worth listening too (unlike Liza and Dave) I guess the RIAA figure that the Gay audience is worth major bucks!

 

BDawg

Lifer
Oct 31, 2000
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Do you get a free pass if you were sharing Liza Mineli or DMB songs?

Instead of getting sued, they just declare you guilty by reason of insanity.
 

pulse8

Lifer
May 3, 2000
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Do you get a free pass if you were sharing Liza Mineli or DMB songs?

Nope. Just the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Yeah but they actually have songs worth listening too (unlike Liza and Dave)

Did you feel the breeze when the joke went right over your head?
 

Binar

Banned
Dec 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: Electrode
The last time I used Kazaa was back when they were offering a Linux client, shortly after they shut out Morpheus. Am I fairly safe?

i don't think so they are looking for old timers and you are like the perfect candidate
 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Do you get a free pass if you were sharing Liza Mineli or DMB songs?

Nope. Just the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Yeah but they actually have songs worth listening too (unlike Liza and Dave)

Did you feel the breeze when the joke went right over your head?
I keep forgetting that Dave is the Jimi Hendrix of Rythym Guitar...Bwuhahahahaha
 

pulse8

Lifer
May 3, 2000
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Do you get a free pass if you were sharing Liza Mineli or DMB songs?

Nope. Just the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Yeah but they actually have songs worth listening too (unlike Liza and Dave)

Did you feel the breeze when the joke went right over your head?
I keep forgetting that Dave is the Jimi Hendrix of Rythym Guitar...Bwuhahahahaha

rolleye.gif


I think someone needs his diaper changed.
 

Twista

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Jun 19, 2003
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do hackers have an advantages of protecting there pc's since they always hack us!