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ProviaFan

Lifer
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Originally posted by: przero
Exactly what is the RIAA doing that's so "heavy-handed"?
Oh, suing their customers for insane amounts of money, trying to invade the privacy of not only the guilty but also the innocent, trying to pass a s-load of legislation to give them more judicial, legislative, and executive powers - are those not "heavy-handed" actions? :confused:
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: L vis
Seems to me you ought to not buy any the entire holiday season. One day won't hurt them, I doubt they would even notice. The music stores would, but those bastards will never know. You need to figure out a way to have the cds start to pile up in the warehouses, then they will squirm.
Again, it's SYMBOLIC.

IF we can pull this off - IF we can organize PEOPLE, the general record buying public and make them AWARE of the crap the RIAA is pulling - we can do it for a week, a month or a year.

If they see it done for a day they will have real fear like they have never known.

CD prices will plummet and these rich and lazy SoBs will develop a MODERN business model instead of the 19th century one that is in place.

Heck, the Boston Tea party only muddied up the Harbor but the British were afraid and the REVOLUTION began.

It's time for another - NONviolent protest. Speak your conscience by voting with your wallets AND get everyone else you know involved (especially your parents of any age). ;)

 

apoppin

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Call me a pessamist . . .


. . . but this protest looks like it will never get organized.

I believe 'apathy rules' here. :p

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LordJezo

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It wont work.

No one but internet geeks care about the RIAA.

Everyone else will buy their music like they always do.

Why bother?
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: LordJezo
It wont work.

No one but internet geeks care about the RIAA.

Everyone else will buy their music like they always do.

Why bother?
WHY?

Because they are coming for us one at a time . . . don't complain here after it is too late when they have kicked in your door and taken your computer. :p

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jfall

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They will not be coming for people who are not breaking copyright laws.
 

dmcowen674

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Now more important than ever.

Many Civic Groups and Lawyers are flooded withe calls today, the onslaught on American Citizens by a Private Third Party Corporation using Federal Powers begins. A sad day indeed.

9-8-2003 RIAA Declares D-Day

Record Industry Sues Music File Swappers

The recording industry filed hundreds of lawsuits Monday against individual music lovers, accusing them of illegally downloading and sharing songs over the Internet

The industry in recent weeks also has served subpoenas on at least 10 universities in an effort to identify individual file-swappers.
 
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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: LordJezo
It wont work.

No one but internet geeks care about the RIAA.

Everyone else will buy their music like they always do.

Why bother?
WHY?

Because they are coming for us one at a time . . . don't complain here after it is too late when they have kicked in your door and taken your computer. :p

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When they came for my neighbours, I said and did nothing.
When they came for my friends, I said and did nothing.
When they came for my family, I said and did nothing.
When they came for me, there was no one left to turn to.


- M4H
 

przero

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jliechty - They go online ,see their copyrighted material "freely and openly" posted to share, and they take screenshots for evidence. They go to the ISP to identify the "sharer" and sue him for copyright violations. Not heavy handed, just serious action.

Moral of the story: Don't swap what ain't yours to swap!!!!
 

Tbirdkid

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My feelings are that I dont buy cds anymore. I dont download music anymore... i just quit supporting that crap alltogether... just because i hate them peeps. if i want some music... i will listen to the radio which i really dont do anymore unless i am in the car. and i am not in the car very much since gas prices went sky high. plus being on unemployment.... cant afford to go many places. Hell with em.. i will keep my non supporting ways going on black friday... im in
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: przero
jliechty - They go online ,see their copyrighted material "freely and openly" posted to share, and they take screenshots for evidence. They go to the ISP to identify the "sharer" and sue him for copyright violations. Not heavy handed, just serious action.

Moral of the story: Don't swap what ain't yours to swap!!!!
The REAL moal of the storyis that you are completely clueless. :p

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Songwriter says there will be no music because of Piracy.

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[Hugh Prestwood (http://www.hughprestwood.com/bio.htm) is a country
songwriter who has worked with many famous singers including Judy Collins.
--Declan]

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Subject: Re: FC: RIAA finally acts: Sues individual P2P users
From: jason <jaegner@mindspring.com>
To: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
Date: 08 Sep 2003 21:24:43 -0400

Declan,

I'd like to respond to Hugh Prestwood personally and the rest of the
recording industry reps generally.

First of all, know this: I have never used any P2P application. But if
you want me to sign an affidavit attesting my innocence, you can get
bent.

Given that, and given my great respect for Hugh I can't help but address
his points in order to demonstrate what is really wrong here:

"What is becoming increasingly clear is that the great majority of you
truly feel no guilt about the "sharing" of what I have created and own
-- my music."

--No, Hugh. What is becoming increasingly clear is that you're wanting
to over-own your creation for far too long. Copyright is us giving you
a monopoly for a limited time. It's certainly not us giving you (and
your kids...and their grandkids) a monopoly in perpetuity.

"You have lumped together many professions artists, songwriters,
engineers, producers, publishers, etc. into one big ugly corporate
caricature -- a rich and corrupt industry that can be stolen from
remorselessly."

--Again, I don't believe that's the case. I believe that the action of
"lumping together [of] many professions" has been done by the RIAA. If
you don't like the backlash, perhaps you should focus your ire upon the
organization that claims to represent you to the public.

"Moreover, you have unfairly condemned me and my record industry peers
for bringing the law to bear against you. In classic "blame the victim"
reasoning, you lay the responsibility for my losses at my feet, saying,
in essence, that the problem is not your theft, but rather my inability
to prevent it."

--See above...it is folly to expect the public to embrace extortion in
the name of art. It is even more incredulous that you and your record
industry peers are alienating those who might become your best
customers...especially considering the fact that file hosts can migrate
from country to country. And, please, PROVE YOUR LOSS! Don't cry on my
shoulder about how the "evil pirates" are "taking bread from your table"
until you can prove the theft.

"Well, file-sharers, I righteously say "bull." I,
songwriter/publisher,labored for years to create those songs, and I
really do legally own them."

--Finally, a glimpse of the arrogance that promulgates this debate.
Hugh, you're right. You worked your ass off on those songs, but the
only reason you "really do legally own them" is because we, the people,
at one time respected your work because we had the expectation that we
would be able to expound upon your work one day (within our lifetime)
without paying you for that opportunity. When it was asserted that your
ownership of your songs lasted beyond your lifetime, it cut into the
public domain. And you have the nerve to be offended that your
great-great-great grandchildren might not be able to own and capitalize
on your ideas? Heaven forbid they have an idea of their own.

"I not you -- have the right to control what happens to them, a right
your technology does not trump."

--This assertion is being proven wrong today. Your right used to be
able to trump technology. That is no longer the case.

Let us come together. You often love what I create, and I need to make
a living. I have been trying for several years now to find a way for us
both to be happy where you can easily acquire my songs and I can be
justly rewarded for my creativity. Try as I might, however, thus far I
have been unable to find a way to compete with "free". You must help
me.

--Absolutely. I want to reward your talent and keep bread on your table
because I love your music. But sueing your fans/customers? Wouldn't it
help if the RIAA were able to prove the FUD they've been feeding
everybody? I believe that it's highly probable that this "piracy" that
is so despicable to the entertainment distribution cartels might
actually be a boon to society as a whole.


Get a clue, Hugh. We're not consumers anymore.

--Jason

 

Dedpuhl

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Call me a pessamist . . .


. . . but this protest looks like it will never get organized.

I believe 'apathy rules' here. :p

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Probably not, but I'm going to spread the word.

Would anyone like to draft a 1-page flier explaining (to the uninformed):

What the RIAA is
What they are doing
Pricing
info about boycott
alternatives (second hand purchasing)
etc.


I can plaster Baton Rouge and my hometown with fliers. I have family in Indianapolis, Houston, Dallas, Orlando, and other misc. cities that would help post fliers and spread the word.

I'll spend $100 on paper and ink before I give another penny to the RIAA...
 

DurocShark

Lifer
Apr 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

When they came for my neighbours, I said and did nothing.
When they came for my friends, I said and did nothing.
When they came for my family, I said and did nothing.
When they came for me, there was no one left to turn to.


- M4H

A great reminder of our responsibilities...

Thanks M4H!
 

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: przero
Exactly what is the RIAA doing that's so "heavy-handed"?

What fvcking rock did you crawl out under from?


Time to flush the DiaRIAA


Ausm
 

DurocShark

Lifer
Apr 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jetblade
When do I get my pitch fork?

LoL... And don't forget the torches! heh.

Seriously, I agree the RIAA has the right to not be ripped off, but does the RIAA have the right to act as a government agency? They've seriously overstepped their bounds with these lawsuits.
 

ProviaFan

Lifer
Mar 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: Jetblade
When do I get my pitch fork?
LoL... And don't forget the torches! heh.

Seriously, I agree the RIAA has the right to not be ripped off, but does the RIAA have the right to act as a government agency? They've seriously overstepped their bounds with these lawsuits.
Not to mention that they're now trying to get the penalty increased to a felony, with 5 years in prison and a large fine for one freaking song! :Q

When will the insanity end? Probably only when the RIAA does. :disgust:
 

Viper GTS

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Equating your desire to steal music to the famous protest against taxation is a slap in the face to the people who staged that demonstration.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Viper GTS
 

Tom

Lifer
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"You should be ashamed of yourselves."

Exactly. The unethical behavior isn't coming from the RIAA..
 

Jetblade

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Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
"You should be ashamed of yourselves."

Exactly. The unethical behavior isn't coming from the RIAA..

So its ok to overcharge for a product? Or at LEAST give the consumer more options to spend there hard earned money wisely by giving samples or for the consumers to buy what THEY WANT and not ADDED GARBAGE?
 

BatmanNate

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I'd love to join you guys, but I don't think it would be very effective as no "artist" on any of the RIAA's labels has produced anything that has at all perked my interest lately so I wouldn't be buying one of their CD"s anyway. Like they say, Dinosaurs will die. ;)