Revealed: 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Z06 still rapes it.

i really really wonder if the current Z06 will be dethroned of its <100K purchase price, and 0-60 in 3.3 seconds, with the ability to handle like a god.

where in the world are you getting your unreasonable info from? the 0-60 is 3.7 at best and the handling is a mere opinion...

edit: haha edmunds even lists it as 4.5s ( a little exaggerated)

All in all the corvette is still the best bang for the buck, but i doubt it will ever have the sophistication, finesse, refinement, and passion of a european sports car...

my bad, its 3.9 seconds, edmunds always has the slowest times in the world for 0-60

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Z06 still rapes it.

i really really wonder if the current Z06 will be dethroned of its <100K purchase price, and 0-60 in 3.3 seconds, with the ability to handle like a god.

where in the world are you getting your unreasonable info from? the 0-60 is 3.7 at best and the handling is a mere opinion...

edit: haha edmunds even lists it as 4.5s ( a little exaggerated)

All in all the corvette is still the best bang for the buck, but i doubt it will ever have the sophistication, finesse, refinement, and passion of a european sports car...

The C6 Z06 did 7 min 42.99 sec at the ring on the stock run-flat tires. The 997 Turbo did 7 min 40 sec, but required Cup tires to do that. Cup tires give you about a 7 sec advantage or so. The ring is a high speed track, so the Z06's high speed acceleration probably gives it some advantage. However, it's still hard to ignore the other aspects.

The C6 Z06's all around performance is very strong. Does it handle better than the 997 Turbo? Probably, but if it did, the difference is probably small.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Z06 still rapes it.

i really really wonder if the current Z06 will be dethroned of its <100K purchase price, and 0-60 in 3.3 seconds, with the ability to handle like a god.

where in the world are you getting your unreasonable info from? the 0-60 is 3.7 at best and the handling is a mere opinion...

edit: haha edmunds even lists it as 4.5s ( a little exaggerated)

All in all the corvette is still the best bang for the buck, but i doubt it will ever have the sophistication, finesse, refinement, and passion of a european sports car...

The C6 Z06 did 7 min 42.99 sec at the ring on the stock run-flat tires. The 997 Turbo did 7 min 40 sec, but required Cup tires to do that. Cup tires give you about a 7 sec advantage or so. The ring is a high speed track, so the Z06's high speed acceleration probably gives it some advantage. However, it's still hard to ignore the other aspects.

The C6 Z06's all around performance is very strong. Does it handle better than the 997 Turbo? Probably, but if it did, the difference is probably small.

lets watch them argue that you dont know anything about performance cars, i wanna watch this. comon comon. someone bite at the bait.

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: NFS4
http://forums.thecarlounge.net/zerothread?id=2411507

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=109294

$123,000? Better yet, take two of these and call me the morning

Heck, you could probably have a Blue Devil in about a year.

The Blue Devil is still coming? I thought it was cancelled and the SS was live.

Everyone on TCL didnt believe me when i said the following things.

Camaro in late 07 early 08.
Blue Devil next year,
no more Z06
Vette SS.

so far, that article is pretty good for 2 of the 4 ive said.

Here's another recent article on a new Corvette

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: Rudee

Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Too bad no one here could afford it.

Speak for yourself.

two words: Breast Implant.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: Rudee

Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Too bad no one here could afford it.

Speak for yourself.

two words: Breast Implant.

:laugh:

 

[AmericanRebel]

Any rational car enthusiast obviously shouldn't chose between the z06 and 911, he plainly needs both. It should be a very close comparison as they both have very similar performance numbers, i can't wait till the next Road & track arrives

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: Naustica
I see the interior still sucks.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: jtusa

Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Too bad no one here could afford it.

Not true.

Too bad none of us can drive it to its full potential.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: jtusa

Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Too bad no one here could afford it.

Not true.

Too bad none of us can drive it to its full potential.

That's not true either. Get one, and I'll be happy to show you.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: jtusa

Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Too bad no one here could afford it.

Not true.

Too bad none of us can drive it to its full potential.

That's not true either. Get one, and I'll be happy to show you.

I'll put my money on Apex.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: bR

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: jtusa

Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Too bad no one here could afford it.

Not true.

Too bad none of us can drive it to its full potential.

That's not true either. Get one, and I'll be happy to show you.

I'll put my money on Apex.

ill do that too.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: bR

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: jtusa

Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Too bad no one here could afford it.

Not true.

Too bad none of us can drive it to its full potential.

That's not true either. Get one, and I'll be happy to show you.

I'll put my money on Apex.

ill do that too.

Let me know when you get the car, and I'll meet ya.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: bR

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: jtusa

Originally posted by: Soccerman06
Too bad no one here could afford it.

Not true.

Too bad none of us can drive it to its full potential.

That's not true either. Get one, and I'll be happy to show you.

I'll put my money on Apex.

ill do that too.

Let me know when you get the car, and I'll meet ya.

Lets use this car
http://www.lotus-elise.org.uk/M400/PreDelivery/209_0956.JPG

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Model: M400
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Dimensions: Overall length: 4,089mm, overall width: 1,885mm, height: 1,143mm
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Kerb weight: 1,060kg
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Engine type: V6 biturbo
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Total displacement: 2968cc
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Maximum power: 425 bhp at 6,500rpm
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Maximum torque: 390 lb ft at 5,250rpm
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Power-to-weight ratio: 400bhp/tonne
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Performance: Maximum speed 185mph, 0-62mph (0-100kph): 3.5secs
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Transmission: Six-speed manual, rear-wheel drive, limited-slip differential
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Construction: Tubular welded chassis, composite body panels
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Price: £55,995

 

[James3shin]

looks to be a quick ride, but it has that USUAL porsche look. I guess I was looking for some more change, a little bit more in the aggressive department.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

that car is like 40years of german engineering....its a master piece.

many believe this latest porsche is damn near perfect....you all saw in top gear, that despite being the least powerful and the cheapest (against the V8 Vantage and the M6) it was the quickest by a country mile.

its a fine car, and id love to own one

i like how the write up says "by standers".......lol more like inoccent bystanders....killed by the immense power of that 3.6litre twin turbo flat six

 

[vizkiz]

Originally posted by: drnickriviera
Why even make the rear lid able to open? Can't do jack squat except check the fluids.

Nope, you can remove the airbox and change the alternator too. Excuse Porsche for wanting to save some money on warranty work by not building the cars so the tech has to drop the engine to do something on it.

 

[vizkiz]

In the 997 model Turbo, the auto is faster than the 6spd. The auto is a new 5spd DSG gearbox. The official Porsche 0-60 times are 3.4 for the auto and 3.7 for the stick.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: vizkiz
In the 997 model Turbo, the auto is faster than the 6spd. The auto is a new 5spd DSG gearbox. The official Porsche 0-60 times are 3.4 for the auto and 3.7 for the stick.

Are you positive? I thought the DSG type gearbox won't replace the tiptronic until a year or two.

 

[vizkiz]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: vizkiz
In the 997 model Turbo, the auto is faster than the 6spd. The auto is a new 5spd DSG gearbox. The official Porsche 0-60 times are 3.4 for the auto and 3.7 for the stick.

Are you positive? I thought the DSG type gearbox won't replace the tiptronic until a year or two.

Not according to the Press Release I read on the PCNA website, accessible to people who work at Porsche dealerships.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: vizkiz

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: vizkiz
In the 997 model Turbo, the auto is faster than the 6spd. The auto is a new 5spd DSG gearbox. The official Porsche 0-60 times are 3.4 for the auto and 3.7 for the stick.

Are you positive? I thought the DSG type gearbox won't replace the tiptronic until a year or two.

Not according to the Press Release I read on the PCNA website, accessible to people who work at Porsche dealerships.

Ah, very cool. They really need to update the info on their website and brochures. Everything still says Tiptronic S.

 

[vizkiz]

Also, the 502lb-ft torque rating is misleading and for the most part, incorrect.

The new 911 Turbo?s engine produces 480 hp at 6,000 rpm, 60 hp more than its predecessor, raising specific output of the 3.6-liter boxer-Six to an all-time high of 133 hp per liter. More notable is the engine?s torque curve, which has been bolstered and broadened by the variable turbine geometry system. Peak torque rises to 457 lb-ft (previously 415 lb-ft), but that peak now spans an extended rpm range from 1,950 to 5,000 rpm, compared to 2,700--4,600 rpm in the previous 911 Turbo. Additionally, a function in the optional Sport Chrono Package allows a 10-second, mid-rpm-range ?overboost?, temporarily increasing turbo boost under full throttle by 2.9 psi, and swelling peak torque to 502 lb-ft.

Any Turbo not equipped with the sport chrono package, or any car with it but Sport mode not turned on, will only have 457lb-ft of torque.

 

[vizkiz]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: vizkiz

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: vizkiz
In the 997 model Turbo, the auto is faster than the 6spd. The auto is a new 5spd DSG gearbox. The official Porsche 0-60 times are 3.4 for the auto and 3.7 for the stick.

Are you positive? I thought the DSG type gearbox won't replace the tiptronic until a year or two.

Not according to the Press Release I read on the PCNA website, accessible to people who work at Porsche dealerships.

Ah, very cool. They really need to update the info on their website and brochures. Everything still says Tiptronic S.

Actually, I may be mistaken. I was just reading from the Press Release again and it does not mention the DSG gearbox. Must have been something else I was reading about the car, not from Porsche. I was under the impression that it would be DSG from the get-go, but I now believe I was wrong. Sorry about that.

 

[SampSon]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Z06 still rapes it.

i really really wonder if the current Z06 will be dethroned of its <100K purchase price, and 0-60 in 3.3 seconds, with the ability to handle like a god.

Do you have proof the Z06 rapes it, or is that just heresay, like usual?

Either way the 911 is at least a thousand times sexier than the Z06, and isn't built like sh!t. I still love the video of the Z06 owner getting his ass handed to him by a wrx in a drag race.

0-60 in 3.3 seconds for the Z06.

that was no stock WRX, and that was no C6 ZO6

You're right it wasn't a stock WRX but it was a stock C5 Z06.
I'd be willing to bet that modified WRX would still beat the stock C6 Z06. The modified WRX destroyed the Z06, and I know the new Z06 wouldn't make much of a difference. Point is that a little itty bitty 4cyl import spanked the pinnacle of American sports car, that's embarassing.

You're still basing your opinion off of numbers on paper, which everyone knows means very little.
I would still bet my bottom dollar on the new 911 over the new Z06. Porsche is still a vastly superior manufacturer and car. Anyone who says they would rather roll around in a vette over a 911 is nickle and diming themselves. Don't get me wrong, I love the new vette, but it I had a choice I would always take the porsche, as would the vast majority of people.

and i could smoke that WRX with a GTO, or an old 5.0, or an old station wagon if i were to mod it... modded vs stock is NOT a fair comparison EVER.

I think you highly overestimate your driving abilities. Aparently that Z06 driver couldn't smoke that WRX. The AWD gives the car an incredible ability to launch, you have to be a extremely good driver to get a high powered RWD car to hook up like an AWD car. I personally don't think you're that "extremely skilled driver", don't take it personally or anything.

I wouldn't hesitate to put $1,000 on the line if I were to sit in the seat of that WRX and you in the seat of that z06 or even a GTO.

Also comparing a 2.0L 4 cyl to a 6L 8cyl isn't a fair comparison, "ever". The corvette has an engine 3 times the size of the WRX. For the WRX to take the Z06 is quite a feat, no matter what your fanboy mind tells you. Sure a modded Z06 would beat the WRX, but a modded 911 would utterly destroy a modded Z06. I love the Z06 and it is a great bang for the buck, but when you're in the market for a top notch porsche you're probably not considering a corvette. They are on different levels of quality, always have been, always will be.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Porsche: There is no substitute.

I really can't think of another car brand that exudes sophistication, masculinity, understated elegance, exclusivity, and precision all at once. Porsche is the "Mont Blanc" of the car world.

You're thinking Aston Martin.

Aston's are British. Half the time the damn electrical system doesn't work at all, and the other half of the time it's catching on fire.

Ahh, Lucas electronics. If Lucas made guns, wars wouldn't start.

ZV