Retail ATi X1800XT for $450+tax

[Capt Caveman]

Rollo - people are tired of you and that's including Nvidia owners. It's obvious you have an agenda and can't make comments w/out some bias. It's New Year's Eve. Go drink some of your fancy beer and enjoy the holidays.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Rollo - people are tired of you and that's including Nvidia owners. It's obvious you have an agenda and can't make comments w/out some bias. It's New Year's Eve. Go drink some of your fancy beer and enjoy the holidays.

Please point out how my original post is "biased", or how my desire to have Ackmed stop calling everyone he disagrees with ignorant is biased?

 

[rbV5]

Who's shittin* on moderation?

Rollo for Video Forum Mod
Fair and Balanced

Seems to suggest that:
1. There is a need for a Video Forum Moderator
2. That you would represent a fair and balanced approach, as opposed to the current approach.

I don't believe either to be true, and seems insulting to the current Video forum Mods IMO.

As far as Ackmed, go cry about it in FI.

 

[TecHNooB]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Rollo - people are tired of you and that's including Nvidia owners. It's obvious you have an agenda and can't make comments w/out some bias. It's New Year's Eve. Go drink some of your fancy beer and enjoy the holidays.

 

[Thorny]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: rbV5
Interesting how you continue shat on the face of the moderation in the video forum with your idiotic self promotion.

Who's shittin* on moderation?

The guy (Ackmed) who calls people "ignorant" in every other thread he posts in, or the guy (Rollo) who points it out and asks him to stop?

What "self promotion"? Asking Ackmed to stop his never ending stream of petty name calling somehow promotes me?

You guys really need to start up your own threads for your pissing matches. It gets old coming to video and seeing "Rollo vs. the rest of AT" in almost every ATI or NV thread...

 

[RobertR1]

I still don't get why rollo almost breaks into tears when people crap/go off topic in his threads when he's doing just the same in other people's threads?

 

[Cookie Monster]

Im beginning to suspect that people just join AT to flame rollo.

 

[MegaWorks]

It?s obvious that Rollo?s agenda is to lock this thread so that people won?t take advantage of this deal. Ackmed I suggest that you post this deal in Hot Deals.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Looks like a good deal to me. Didnt read the whole thread, but an X1800XT for 450? get it quick before its too late.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Who's shittin* on moderation?

Rollo for Video Forum Mod
Fair and Balanced

Seems to suggest that:
1. There is a need for a Video Forum Moderator
2. That you would represent a fair and balanced approach, as opposed to the current approach.

I don't believe either to be true, and seems insulting to the current Video forum Mods IMO.

As far as Ackmed, go cry about it in FI.

I suppose that's one way to take my signature, another would be that I'd like to help the mods and the guy that came up with the Fair and Balanced thinks those qualities make me a good candidate.

I didn't start the whole "Rollo for Mod" sig, I think people mostly have it to show they agree with what I do here.

As far as Ackmed goes, I'm just waiting for his response to the question of how he's proven his own intellect since he seems to love to question others.

I don't think what his wife looks like or how big his belly is gives us any understanding of why he loves to call other members ignorant.

 

[Asymptoke]

Ackmed you should apologize for calling people ignorant so many times. Rollo proved it.

Also Ackmed: if you have a big belly I would suggest you eat healthier and maybe start a walking program.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: MegaWorks
It?s obvious that Rollo?s agenda is to lock this thread so that people won?t take advantage of this deal. Ackmed I suggest that you post this deal in Hot Deals.

Errr, I think I've said twice in this thread that it's a great deal?



It obvious I'm just the latest victim of Ackmed's insults, as I posted 12 links to him calling people ignorant lately.

Don't you think those of us he's called ignorant have a right to know a little about the intelligence of the man calling us ignorant?!

Sheesh Ackmed - if you're afraid we'll try and find out your secret identity from your college records (which need to be released in this state BTW) just tell us about your level of post high school education without naming the colleges. It's pretty obvious you're probably some PhD egg head type, you don't get such a contempt for the reasoning powers of your fellow man by dropping out of grade school. So what's the Doctorate in?

 

[nRollo]

BTW- I think this and the $420 deal should be in Hot Deals as well, as those are great prices for that card. GO ATI!

Everyone wins on deals like this!

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: rbV5

Who's shittin* on moderation?

Rollo for Video Forum Mod
Fair and Balanced

Seems to suggest that:
1. There is a need for a Video Forum Moderator
2. That you would represent a fair and balanced approach, as opposed to the current approach.

I don't believe either to be true, and seems insulting to the current Video forum Mods IMO.

As far as Ackmed, go cry about it in FI.

I suppose that's one way to take my signature, another would be that I'd like to help the mods and the guy that came up with the Fair and Balanced thinks those qualities make me a good candidate.

I didn't start the whole "Rollo for Mod" sig, I think people mostly have it to show they agree with what I do here.

As far as Ackmed goes, I'm just waiting for his response to the question of how he's proven his own intellect since he seems to love to question others.

I don't think what his wife looks like or how big his belly is gives us any understanding of why he loves to call other members ignorant.

I think the mods have made it clear that they don't need your kind of help, in fact it seems you push the forum rules, (and more than once have teetered on the edge of a permanent ban), if not technically, then certainly the spirit of what their intent is...while at the same time Championing yourself for the role of "keeper" of the rules. Ironic.

I didn't start the whole "Rollo for Mod" sig, I think people mostly have it to show they agree with what I do here.

Maybe you all should start your own video forum then? In fact, I've seen other video forums now being advertised in AT member sigs as well. IMO, those types of proclamations are hurtfull to AT, particularly the video forum. If you all don't like it...leave is my advice.

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: Asymptoke
Ackmed you should apologize for calling people ignorant so many times. Rollo proved it.

Also Ackmed: if you have a big belly I would suggest you eat healthier and maybe start a walking program.

Oh, so you are going to flame the OP in his thread too? What exactly do you bring to the AT video forum?

 

[nts]

Originally posted by: Rollo
It obvious I'm just the latest victim of Ackmed's insults, as I posted 12 links to him calling people ignorant lately.

Don't victimize yourself.

And searching through someones profile to find threads, never would have occured to you eh

Don't you think those of us he's called ignorant have a right to know a little about the intelligence of the man calling us ignorant?!

Did you actually read the threads that you linked to?

From you Rollo:

LOL if the 25Mhz OC is "what's to come", I'm sure nVidia is sleeping soundly.
...
By the looks of that 20# hsf, the vast OCing potential of the X1800XT is readily apparent!

Ackmeds reply

Thats pretty ignorant thinking. Just because Asus doesnt overclock it a lot, doesnt mean it cant. My BFG is only 30Mhz above the stock core, but I clocked it up another 30Mhz.

are you ignorant by that post, Yes. Was his reply uncalled for, No.

Have a read through the other threads if you haven't already.

 

[Asymptoke]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Originally posted by: Asymptoke
Ackmed you should apologize for calling people ignorant so many times. Rollo proved it.

Also Ackmed: if you have a big belly I would suggest you eat healthier and maybe start a walking program.

Oh, so you are going to flame the OP in his thread too? What exactly do you bring to the AT video forum?

I didn't realize it was a flame? I've not yet brought anything to the video forum, because if I did, I might be called ignorant.

I was simply stating my opinion, as a new user, and offering a little advice. Obesity is a big health problem theses days, and it can cause a heart attack. If Ackmed has a big belly, then he could have health problems and possibly lower back pain. I have friends that are fat so I know what I'm talking about.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Asymptoke

Originally posted by: rbV5

Originally posted by: Asymptoke
Ackmed you should apologize for calling people ignorant so many times. Rollo proved it.

Also Ackmed: if you have a big belly I would suggest you eat healthier and maybe start a walking program.

Oh, so you are going to flame the OP in his thread too? What exactly do you bring to the AT video forum?

I didn't realize it was a flame? I've not yet brought anything to the video forum, because if I did, I might be called ignorant.

I was simply stating my opinion, as a new user, and offering a little advice. Obesity is a big health problem theses days, and it can cause a heart attack. If Ackmed has a big belly, then he could have health problems and possibly lower back pain. I have friends that are fat so I know what I'm talking about.

Did they have heart attacks?

 

[Pete]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
edit: and you're all off topic if you're not discussing the deal.

This thread is an OT train wreck, but I guess that's one way to keep the deal at the top of the page.

I dunno, while ~$500 is a pretty good price for an 1800XT, I'd probably hold off for the next gen. If the rumors are right, you should be able to get a 512MB next-gen R580/G71 for about $600 in about two months. That's probably worth waiting for if the next gen will bring 50% higher performance in future, FEAR-like (and probably UE3-engine) games.

BTW, in case it got lost in the verbal scrum, Capt Cavemen posted a slightly better deal that starts tomorrow:

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
FWIW - From Jan 1-14 Microcenter is having their Annual 20% off BYOPC Sale, including graphic cards. The ATI x1800xt is $599 but take 20% off and w/ the $50 rebate, we're now talking $430 plus tax. Wow!!!

 

[John Reynolds]

Originally posted by: Pete
I dunno, while ~$500 is a pretty good price for an 1800XT, I'd probably hold off for the next gen. If the rumors are right, you should be able to get a 512MB next-gen R580/G71 for about $600 in about two months. That's probably worth waiting for if the next gen will bring 50% higher performance in future, FEAR-like (and probably UE3-engine) games.

That's pretty much my thinking (gives jaundiced eye toward his aging X800 XT).

 

[fstime]

GO ATI!

Thats a first.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Im fallguy on forums where I can be, such as tribalwar, b3d, hard, ntcompatiable, dfi forums, maxpc, pcgamer, etc. Even nvnews.net. And he complains about OT, but goes off on it all the time?

Hey Ackmed, I took a look at DFI Forums and nvnews.net, and it says *Banned* under your avatar.

What's up with that? Did they get mad at you for calling them ignorant?

 

[Thorny]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Im fallguy on forums where I can be, such as tribalwar, b3d, hard, ntcompatiable, dfi forums, maxpc, pcgamer, etc. Even nvnews.net. And he complains about OT, but goes off on it all the time?

Hey Ackmed, I took a look at DFI Forums and nvnews.net, and it says *Banned* under your avatar.

What's up with that? Did they get mad at ytou for calling them ignorant?

FOR $@%&'S SAKE, GO TROLL ON ANOTHER FORUM!!!!

 

[BFG10K]

Hey Ackmed, I took a look at DFI Forums and nvnews.net, and it says *Banned* under your avatar.

Does anyone else find it ironic that this individual accuses people of having no life if they quote what he's said in the past?

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Rollo
You are correct that less supply is a component of higher pricing for the 7800GTX 512. I believe I am correct in that the X1800XT won't create enough demand at a price that is significantly higher than the 7800GTX 256, and the lack of demand at the higher price lead to increased supply and a downward shift in price.

well, no. you are correct that the GTX puts a soft ceiling on the price of the XT. when the GTX's price drops, the demand line for the XT shifts inward, making the market clearing price of the XT lower, ceteris paribus. but, if there isn't enough demand at a higher price there is actually too much quantity supplied, not too much supply. so then the price drops, and as the price drops the quantity supplied decreases until it equals the quantity demanded at the market clearing price point.

but, it's only a soft ceiling because ati could restrict supply, moving it inward, to keep the price up at the expense of quantity sold. that isn't often a profit-maximizing move in a market with large fixed costs (development), as there are large economies of scale to be had.

<--- BA economics, university of texas at austin, may 2001.

edit: and you're all off topic if you're not discussing the deal.

What he said! :laugh:
Do you have perchance a sister who is willing to date a slightly hippy like computer lover and writer in the Northwest? Such logic is so rare and wondrous in this forum of emotional vitriol that I think a gentle tear is beginning to course down my cheek!

I still find it hard to drop 450.00 bones on either a 7800GTX or X1800XT at this point with new cards coming out within six weeks. If this was August (when I got my 7800GTX) and cards still were four months or more away I would say buy. Just my opinion.