Responsible gun ownership Republican style.

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kage69

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I see people responding about Vermont, so I assume a certain shit for brains traitor I have on Ignore responded to me.

*yawn*

I won't bother. There is a crowd of fellow shooters I make a point not to engage with as arguing with cult members holds little appeal to me. Assholes who think active shooter drills and kevlar backpacks are just facets of modern life but then rageshit themselves over kids wearing facemasks in school - during a pandemic - aren't to be taken seriously.
 

Paratus

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No training required.
 

eelw

Lifer
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I see people responding about Vermont, so I assume a certain shit for brains traitor I have on Ignore responded to me.

*yawn*

I won't bother. There is a crowd of fellow shooters I make a point not to engage with as arguing with cult members holds little appeal to me. Assholes who think active shooter drills and kevlar backpacks are just facets of modern life but then rageshit themselves over kids wearing facemasks in school - during a pandemic - aren't to be taken seriously.
Well I decided to peek at show ignored post. Troll attempting to both siding 2A and voting. But yeah the hypocrisy is glaring.
 

HomerJS

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" But restrictions on voting prevents people from voting, which takes away that constitutional right. restrictions on guns, requiring training, and requiring a permit to conceal carry, does not prevent people from baring arms. "

You freely make the claim that any and all restrictions on voting prevent people from voting, but try to make the claim that even more time consuming, onerous, expensive, intrusive and unreasonable restrictions on owning a firearm has no effect on owning a firearm? You are lying to yourself if you make that claim.
If you have to wait an extra 2 weeks to get a gun you still get that gun. If you have to wait an extra 2 weeks to vote you don't get to vote.
 
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HomerJS

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Only a fool thinks handing out deadly weapons like Tic-Tacs with ZERO training is a good thing. That's why we have a resident fool.

Also not requiring informing police you are carrying is why they are against it.
 

Fenixgoon

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Only a fool thinks handing out deadly weapons like Tic-Tacs with ZERO training is a good thing. That's why we have a resident fool.

Also not requiring informing police you are carrying is why they are against it.
And when you do, they still shoot you...unless you're white :(
 

ch33zw1z

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If you have to wait an extra 2 weeks to get a gun you still get that gun. If you have to wait an extra 2 weeks to vote you don't get to vote.

He should probably brush up on the short read called the 2A. It's pretty obvious what the intent was.
 
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If you have to wait an extra 2 weeks to get a gun you still get that gun. If you have to wait an extra 2 weeks to vote you don't get to vote.
You apply 3 weeks before the actual vote, then you get a background check. Pay a small transfer fee of $25 or so and then you can vote. Same as buying a firearm.
 

MrSquished

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I heard this guy on a podcast and need to buy his book. Big gun enthusiast who has become sickened by the gun nut fetishization culture in America that is just horrific, as we can see from one of our most horrible soulless posters here - taj. They are just evil when it comes to guns. Things like not even requiring a modicum of training before allowing concealed carry is just a small symptom of how insane these people are. There are many others. Anyways this guy comes from a long history of being a part of gun culture and gun enthusiast and supporter and who still owns and has guns and shoots them with his kids, but is smart enough and has enough of a soul to realize people like our resident gun nut righties are just bad hombres:


 

MrSquished

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You apply 3 weeks before the actual vote, then you get a background check. Pay a small transfer fee of $25 or so and then you can vote. Same as buying a firearm.

I can imagine what you want the background check to do - any crime that minorities are arrested for more at a much higher rate than white people will automatically disqualify them from voting - such as weed convictions.
 
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Huh? How so? Please elaborate, as right now, it appears your stupidity is blinding.


If you can't take your firearm out of your house it's pretty tough to use it to defend yourself and your family.
 
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So what's the value of the current permitting system where you can get certified in most states?

Current system forces legal and responsible gun owners though a bunch of hoops.

An application process, minimal training, and a criminal background check.

IMO, the background check is nice, but the training requirements are really minimal.

If you are going to effectively and responsibility carry, you need to commit to a lot more training and range time to hone your firearm skills. Go to the range sometime and you will see just how busy it is. Ammo ain't cheap either.

The concern I would have with with CC is that if there are not provisions that disallow criminals to legally carry. I suppose one could argue that they can't purchase a firearm without passing the current checks... But this isn't that robust.

Would it make it difficult for LEOs to arrest suspicious individuals if they are found in possession of loaded firearms? I want Leos to be able to bust the truly bad guys, even if it's at the expense of a bit of convenience for legal gun owners. I'd rather have cops have crime under control rather than leave it up to me to have to endure the consequences of even a legally justifiable shooting.
The other 18 States where your training isn't recognized, and where they can change the requirements at any time for any whim. What other right requires a citizen to pay money and take training to use? Free speech? religion? ......voting?? search and seizure? innocent until proven guilty ? self incrimination? What RIGHT does an American citizen have to apply, pay for and get training in to use that Right?
 
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I can imagine what you want the background check to do - any crime that minorities are arrested for more at a much higher rate than white people will automatically disqualify them from voting - such as weed convictions.
If they commit the crime, they should have to pay for that crime. Most weed convictions are misdemeanors. No reason to lie about weed convictions like it's 1960.
 

Paratus

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Look at the lady behind her, face says it all
Well I just checked and the second amendment doesn’t say anything about trigger or barrel discipline. So I say if you want to walk around pointing a loaded weapon (I know hers is unloaded) wherever with your finger on the trigger go ahead.

That’s the world conservatives want, I say give it to them. If they have a problem with untrained rando’s pointing loaded weapons at them to bad. Plus your finger is already on the trigger if they start threatening you. So stand your ground.
 
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Well I just checked and the second amendment doesn’t say anything about trigger or barrel discipline. So I say if you want to walk around pointing a loaded weapon (I know hers is unloaded) wherever with your finger on the trigger go ahead.

That’s the world conservatives want, I say give it to them. If they have a problem with untrained rando’s pointing loaded weapons at them to bad. Plus your finger is already on the trigger if they start threatening you. So stand your ground.
1. How do you know "hers is unloaded" ?
2. Alec Baldwin knew it too.
 

ch33zw1z

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It's quite entertaining seeing this much flail by taj, it's been a while.

I just picture some weirdo polishing his firearms hoping someone draws on him, while he's not grenading children of course.