Researchers claim to achieve room temperature/ambient pressure superconductivity

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UNCjigga

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If this is legit--whomever can perfect the manufacturing process and file the patent will make bank. I'm inclined to believe it will be a semiconductor manufacturer or related industrial concern? Since the research originated in South Korea, I'm betting all the chaebols are working on this (and not tweeting about it lol!)
 
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UNCjigga said:
If this is legit--whomever can perfect the manufacturing process and file the patent will make bank. I'm inclined to believe it will be a semiconductor manufacturer or related industrial concern? Since the research originated in South Korea, I'm betting all the chaebols are working on this (and not tweeting about it lol!)
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The original paper talks about measurements of a thin film of LK-99. I'm inclined to believe the original authors have developed a thin-film deposition process that's better than anything they've released publicly, and they're waiting for superconductivity to be confirmed in the bulk samples before trying to make bank themselves.
 
RnR_au

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If this is not faked, it kinda looks real apparently.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1687816717441916929

From later in the twitter thread;
Think it’s time to turn off, tune out, and wait for the peer-reviewed publications. If people are deep faking this stuff, there should be a reserved place in Hell next to the scammers who target the elderly.
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cytg111 said:
If it pans out 2030'ies is gonna be a-lot different than the 2020'ies.
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Even if real, there are a lot of hurdles to overcome to make this useful, so yeah 2030's at the earliest.

And even then, any of a number of "minor" engineering details might turn out to make this new class of materials interesting, but still limited to very niche applications.
 
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Dave_5k said:
Even if real, there are a lot of hurdles to overcome to make this useful, so yeah 2030's at the earliest.

And even then, any of a number of "minor" engineering details might turn out to make this new class of materials interesting, but still limited to very niche applications.
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I am hoping that if it's real they're gonna crack *why* it's real, and it will explode from there. But. Nothing to do now but sit back and wait.
 
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yottabit said:
Yeah thanks for pouring some cold water on that, I’m not sure how people are so delusional. Same thing with AI is going to make it so that none of us have to work, uh huh. It’s basically just going to accelerate the concentration of wealth gap disparity that’s been accelerating for so long already. Short of government intervention, all some breakthrough energy technology is going to do is make better profit margins for the power companies since they’ve already shown the market can bear current prices.

That being said, I’m excited for any new advances in superconductors since I think they may result in some radical advances in both commercial and consumer electronics.
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Super conductors would make a global renewable energy grid much easier. This would allow us to have a gird the sun never sets on.
 
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Apparently at least some levitation videos have been faked. :mad:

www.tomshardware.com

Beijing Superconductor Levitation Video Author Admits Fraud, Takes it Down

This is only one of several videos from different sources claiming to show the substance levitating.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com

www.nextbigfuture.com

Increasing Number of Fake LK99 Levitation Videos | NextBigFuture.com

There are real LK99 Videos and there is an increasing number of fake LK99 room temperature superconductor videos.
www.nextbigfuture.com www.nextbigfuture.com

This is why we can't have nice things.
 
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It turns out that in Kwon's original Korean paper, they don't use ingots... they smash the ingots, collect the tiny superconducting crystals and make a thin film out of this.

Everyone so far has been using ingots.

This little detail didn't make it into the arxiv english paper apparently. Maybe something to do with patents.

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LK99/comments/15ld09u

And an interesting story in the thread;
By the way, unfortunately, there is a very human element in scientific publishing where this happens (accidentally or with malice? you be the judge)

My lab was attempting to do a Noyori hydrogenation reaction (which won the Nobel prize for Chemistry, 2001) and we could never get it to work. We tried for a whole year. Then, my colleague had a bright idea of directly contacting members of the Noyori lab; they told us "oh yeah, you need to acid-wash the glassware before doing the reaction".

Oh.

Reaction works flawlessly when we pre-treat the glassware with acid. Any guesses as to why that little detail was left out in their manuscripts and experimental procedures?

Just speculating, that thin flim detail might be same sort of thing...
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RnR_au said:
It turns out that in Kwon's original Korean paper, they don't use ingots... they smash the ingots, collect the tiny superconducting crystals and make a thin film out of this.

Everyone so far has been using ingots.

This little detail didn't make it into the arxiv english paper apparently. Maybe something to do with patents.

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LK99/comments/15ld09u

And an interesting story in the thread;
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Superconducting Tyrosine, that's a new one.
 
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RnR_au said:
It turns out that in Kwon's original Korean paper, they don't use ingots... they smash the ingots, collect the tiny superconducting crystals and make a thin film out of this.

Everyone so far has been using ingots.

This little detail didn't make it into the arxiv english paper apparently. Maybe something to do with patents.
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Ha! Called it! (More or less.)

Ken g6 said:
The original paper talks about measurements of a thin film of LK-99. I'm inclined to believe the original authors have developed a thin-film deposition process that's better than anything they've released publicly, and they're waiting for superconductivity to be confirmed in the bulk samples before trying to make bank themselves.
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Another day, another tipbit. Apparently LK-99 only becomes superconductor when a current flows through it.

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Meghan54

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Meghan54

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RnR_au said:
That Apple article is already out of date.
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I see you didn’t even look at it. Popular Mechanics. Apple don’t write no news. And amazing article out of date being written today. Moves damned fast
 
cytg111

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Or Crysis for that matter ;).

Anyway. DANGIT. But we were prepared for that. Still, sucks to be an optimist sometimes.
 
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