Request for a review of an A4-5300 and a G1610

[frozentundra123456]

Last week I tested my 5700 to play TR 2013. FPS was too low so I inserted my 7750 card in it and then it played ok=>30fps. Thats also the nice fact about the APU's, it will (you have to enable it first in Catalyst) use CF once you plugin another card. Quite a cheap upgrade.

No apus on the market yet can crossfire with a hd7750. What you were seeing was why a discrete card is far superior to an apu for gaming.

 

[bgt]

No apus on the market yet can crossfire with a hd7750. What you were seeing was why a discrete card is far superior to an apu for gaming.

It absolutely does CF. If you disable CF I get halve the FPS. I don't know where you get your information from?

TR 2013 on:

APU only..12FPS
7750 only 18fps
both........30 fps

 

[frozentundra123456]

It absolutely does CF. If you disable CF I get halve the FPS. I don't know where you get your information from?

TR 2013 on:

APU only..12FPS
7750 only 18fps
both........30 fps

hybrid crossfire compatibility list.

The HD7750 is GCN. None of the APU are that architecture. They are not compatible.

 

[NTMBK]

hybrid crossfire compatibility list.

The HD7750 is GCN. None of the APU are that architecture. They are not compatible.

In all fairness, Trinity already Crossfires with different architectures. Trinity is VLIW4, but all the cards it is listed as crossfiring with are VLIW5. GCN might not be any more crazy than that, but I don't know, I'm not a driver writer.

EDIT: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2871274&postcount=13

 

[bgt]

7750: 1100/1200
APU: 1013/933

APU@stock: (760/933)

APU+GPU@stock in CF: (GPU stock=800/1125)

 

[VirtualLarry]

That must be a recent development, the A10-5800K CF with 7750. I had no idea that was supported. If it now is, then that is a strong argument in support of AMD APUs with a cheap discrete card (7750/7770), over a cheap Pentium dual-core, for a budget gaming rig, because you get just that much more of a boost over just the discrete GPU, something that you wouldn't get with Intel.

AMD absolutely needs to get the word out to the tech press that this works, and start marketing it more. Last word that I heard was that the highest APU CF-capable GPU was the 6670.

 

[MeldarthX]

That just kicks some ass and makes things far; far more interesting.......specially in low in for recommendations

 

[frozentundra123456]

That must be a recent development, the A10-5800K CF with 7750. I had no idea that was supported. If it now is, then that is a strong argument in support of AMD APUs with a cheap discrete card (7750/7770), over a cheap Pentium dual-core, for a budget gaming rig, because you get just that much more of a boost over just the discrete GPU, something that you wouldn't get with Intel.

AMD absolutely needs to get the word out to the tech press that this works, and start marketing it more. Last word that I heard was that the highest APU CF-capable GPU was the 6670.

It will crossfire with some HD7000 cards, such as the HD7570 which is a rebadged HD6570. I am still not convinced that it will crossfire with a HD7750 or HD7770. Maybe there is something new that allows it, but I searched a long time on the internet and could not find any mention that it is possible to crossfire HD7750 and an APU.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

I had no idea that was supported. If it now is, then that is a strong argument in support of AMD APUs with a cheap discrete card (7750/7770), over a cheap Pentium dual-core, for a budget gaming rig

Me neither. This makes APU's far more interesting for budget gaming. I wonder if it works for the lower end non-K ones though?.

 

[NTMBK]

It will crossfire with some HD7000 cards, such as the HD7570 which is a rebadged HD6570. I am still not convinced that it will crossfire with a HD7750 or HD7770. Maybe there is something new that allows it, but I searched a long time on the internet and could not find any mention that it is possible to crossfire HD7750 and an APU.

Me neither. This makes APU's far more interesting for budget gaming. I wonder if it works for the lower end non-K ones though?.

I wonder if we could petition one of the major sites to investigate it? Just quickly try out various permutations of Trinity + 7700/7800 series to see what works.

 

[SPBHM]

can you please post a GPUZ screen of the 7750, and test both solutions on something like 3dmark 11 separately (disabling the IGP, not only the CF), also why does it say "3 GPUs",

I don't see how this config would work well... IGP = 384 VLIW4, 24 TMUs, 1866 DDR3, 775 = 512 GCN, 32 TMUs, 4500 DDR5

just look at how much faster the 7750 alone is compared to the IGP
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/878-10/gpu-f1-2011-civilization-v-battlefield-3.html

IF amd could make a CF between this, than they should enable CF for 7770+7870

it would probably have lot's of stutter, frames not being displayed correctly!?

Richland is only compatible with some Mars (384 GCN) GPUs

they don't even mention the faster (higher clock and DDR5) Mars GPUs, only the 650MHz with DDR3 as the highest model.

 

[bgt]

Trinity + 7700/7800 series to see what works.

If I try to use my 7850 it won't CF!!!!

 

[SPBHM]

APU@stock: (760/933)

APU+GPU@stock in CF: (GPU stock=800/1125)

can you disable the IGP? the second result looks low for 2 GPUs, are you sure both are being loaded during the test?

if the IGP can do 5.5FPS I would expect the 7750 to achieve 10FPS+ alone, without CF.

 

[bgt]

GPU only:

+ IGP: add 2fps

 

[SPBHM]

this is with the same OC (for the 7750) of the 15.0 FPS run?

that would be slightly less than 15% gain (if the new frames are actually being used), and possibly the addition of the typical CF problems? probably that's why AMD never talked about this combination... but anyway, interesting to see that it can be activated now,

 

[Yjeld]

3DMark06 results :

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/17209385

Default settings, did not register.

Not having used the software before, I'd say it looked pretty bad (the results and testing).

 

[bgt]

this is with the same OC (for the 7750) of the 15.0 FPS run?

Yep:biggrin: It seems to waist 3fps on syncs or whatever to make up for the frame timing.

 

[SPBHM]

3DMark06 results :

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm06/17209385

Default settings, did not register.

Not having used the software before, I'd say it looked pretty bad (the results and testing).

"Memory
4.096 MB
Module 1
4.096 MB Corsair DDR3 @ 667 MHz"

single channel memory is going to have a significant negative impact on 3d performance compared to dual channel when using integrated graphics.

as for the score, it looks something around the score of the HD 2600 pro or HD5450 for the IGP, the CPU score looks like something around a 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo.

 

[jacktesterson]

I'll test it. Send me a 7750/7770

 

[Phynaz]

The AMD A4-5300 will play all of them at 720p.

BS. Prove it.

 

[Sleepingforest]

The A4 will play them for suitably low standards of "play". The A10 can typically get 20-40 frames per second on medium at 768p; the much weaker A4 should get 10-20 at the very lowest possible settings. It's playable (I used an Intel C2D iGPU for a year in Assassin's Creed 2, and the A4 is MUCH better than that), but it is an "awful, pixelated, and often becomes a slideshow" sort of playable.