Republicans view of Minority Groups

[Matt1970]

I never said otherwise.

It's completely unremarkable that you missed the point entirely. Perhaps you'd care to explain how we have racist results w/o underlying racism. You know, putting cause & effect together in a logical fashion.

Probably not.

That was extremely misleading without including that data and you know it.

 

[dank69]

That was extremely misleading without including that data and you know it.

What do you think "disproportionately poor" means?

 

[Jhhnn]

That was extremely misleading without including that data and you know it.

Anything to miss the point, huh?

http://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/acsbr11-17.pdf

 

[Matt1970]

Anything to miss the point, huh?

http://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/acsbr11-17.pdf

Next time maybe get to the point and skip the bullshit.

 

[Jhhnn]

Next time maybe get to the point and skip the bullshit.

Not that you're actually willing to address the point at all.

Your last several posts were clearly made in an effort to avoid it.

 

[Matt1970]

Not that you're actually willing to address the point at all.

Your last several posts were clearly made in an effort to avoid it.

I am sorry, did you even really make a point? All you did was point out that blacks are either inferior or discriminated against. Then you went on the usual spout of conservative racism with the typical ignoring of Democrat racism.

 

[zinfamous]

sounds typical liberal plantation like. here's another...

"how can we help the poor if we aren't allowed to create them" - the democratic party.

got any others you're willing to share?

sounds typical militant survivalist stormfront bigot to me.

here's another one: "Why don't the colored people just accept their sub-human status like in the fifties? They were much better off then!""

 

[Jhhnn]

I am sorry, did you even really make a point? All you did was point out that blacks are either inferior or discriminated against. Then you went on the usual spout of conservative racism with the typical ignoring of Democrat racism.

You have a remarkable set of ideological filters that cripple your intellect. You just proved it by saying that's all you got out of my post & then blowing the "democrat racism" whistle of false equivalency.

I think you need to define that term if you're going to use it. Please don't go historical on me. Yeh, sure, many overtly racist states, constituencies & representatives were Democrats long ago but that hasn't been vaguely true since Reagan blew their dog whistle in Philadelphia Mississippi back in 1980. They're all Republicans now.

 

[Matt1970]

You have a remarkable set of ideological filters that cripple your intellect. You just proved it by saying that's all you got out of my post & then blowing the "democrat racism" whistle of false equivalency.

I think you need to define that term if you're going to use it. Please don't go historical on me. Yeh, sure, many overtly racist states, constituencies & representatives were Democrats long ago but that hasn't been vaguely true since Reagan blew their dog whistle in Philadelphia Mississippi back in 1980. They're all Republicans now.

You don't want anyone to go historical because it doesn't bode well for your views does it? And I only have to go back 4 years to show a KKK member repeatedly elected by other Democrats to be 3rd in line for the Presidency or to lead them in the Senate.

You were asked for the list of all the representatives that switched parties and you have yet to come up with it. Maybe they didn't have a way to keep records in the 80's.

 

[First]

The country is pretty much divided down the middle. I guess the left's lie has been believed by quite a few other races as well.

lol. Weak dodge wimpy.

 

[Jhhnn]

You don't want anyone to go historical because it doesn't bode well for your views does it? And I only have to go back 4 years to show a KKK member repeatedly elected by other Democrats to be 3rd in line for the Presidency or to lead them in the Senate.

You were asked for the list of all the representatives that switched parties and you have yet to come up with it. Maybe they didn't have a way to keep records in the 80's.

Denial is a remarkable thing. I didn't say that the reps necessarily switched parties, but rather that the constituencies chose to elect Repubs over Dems. The people who live there switched allegiances in a historical split with Northern Dems over civil rights. It's been couched in other terms with allusions to other "values" but that's what it was about. They felt their traditional values were closer to those of Repubs, who are also traditionalists.

It's very important to remember that they all had to embrace each others' values in the process. It's not like white southerners switched parties in protest over civil rights to abandon their traditional values upon becoming Republican.

Robert Byrd was a dinosaur, first elected to Congress in 1953 even before Brown vs Board of Education. So was Strom Thurmond, who ran for President on the racist Dixiecrat ticket in 1948, switched to being a Repub in protest of the civil rights acts of the 60's. He was greeted with open arms. He led the charge in Southerners' switch to the Repub party.

Neither party is what they were 50 years ago because of that enormous migration.

What about "Democrat racism" today? How do you define that? How is it different from traditional racism? Have Dem leaders stood up & said "Hey! You stole our racists & we want 'em back!"?

 

[row]

sounds typical militant survivalist stormfront bigot to me.

here's another one: "Why don't the colored people just accept their sub-human status like in the fifties? They were much better off then!""

lol you're complaining about an article (partially) written by Thomas Sowell, an American economist, social theorist, political philosopher, author and Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, and copied from a black conservative web site.

in your neck of the cracker-ass hillbilly white bread and mayo woods these folk are commonly referred to as uncle tom. god you're a dumb fuck

 

[Matt1970]

Denial is a remarkable thing. I didn't say that the reps necessarily switched parties, but rather that the constituencies chose to elect Repubs over Dems. The people who live there switched allegiances in a historical split with Northern Dems over civil rights. It's been couched in other terms with allusions to other "values" but that's what it was about. They felt their traditional values were closer to those of Repubs, who are also traditionalists.

It's very important to remember that they all had to embrace each others' values in the process. It's not like white southerners switched parties in protest over civil rights to abandon their traditional values upon becoming Republican.

Robert Byrd was a dinosaur, first elected to Congress in 1953 even before Brown vs Board of Education. So was Strom Thurmond, who ran for President on the racist Dixiecrat ticket in 1948, switched to being a Repub in protest of the civil rights acts of the 60's. He was greeted with open arms. He led the charge in Southerners' switch to the Repub party.

Neither party is what they were 50 years ago because of that enormous migration.

What about "Democrat racism" today? How do you define that? How is it different from traditional racism? Have Dem leaders stood up & said "Hey! You stole our racists & we want 'em back!"?

Actually you did day that. "representatives were Democrats long ago but that hasn't been vaguely true since Reagan blew their dog whistle in Philadelphia Mississippi back in 1980. They're all Republicans now." You can claim Robert Byrd was anything you want, but he was still the top Democrat till he died in 2010. That isn't ancient history pal. That was 4 years ago.

 

[DominionSeraph]

You have a remarkable set of ideological filters that cripple your intellect.

No, what you're seeing are the limits of his range. Matt is simply not equipped to have even a low-level philosophical discussion. You can't fit five gallons of water in a one gallon bucket. Well, unless you exceed the water's electron degeneracy pressure. And if you exceed the neutron degeneracy pressure you could fit all the water in the universe in the bucket. But that's not important right now. All you need to know is if you try to fit all the information in the Universe into Matt's brain, all you get is Hawking radiation out.

 

[bradley]

As a disbeliever in established party politics, I find a larger US majority to be conservatives afraid to speak amongst a mostly liberal media backdrop.

Of course, one thing democrats and republicans share is a blithe ignorance regarding the false left-right dichotomy, while multinationals control the show.

Although.... rather than two separate wings of the same bird, our current system of government is more analogous to that same bird attempting to fly with one corrupted wing and failing miserably.

 

[Jhhnn]

Actually you did day that. "representatives were Democrats long ago but that hasn't been vaguely true since Reagan blew their dog whistle in Philadelphia Mississippi back in 1980. They're all Republicans now." You can claim Robert Byrd was anything you want, but he was still the top Democrat till he died in 2010. That isn't ancient history pal. That was 4 years ago.

I believe I've clarified that at this point, despite your attempts to divert into denial.

Is the rest of what I offered not true, and if so, what leads you to believe it isn't?

It turns out that party switching has been more common than I thought, but the net result today is still the solid South, except it's solidly Repub, a complete flip from what it was post- Reconstruction & pre- Civil Rights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_switching_in_the_United_States#1960s_2

Notice how everything started to change from the way it had been since 1880 in the 1964 election. Jimmy Carter was the last Dem to take the South in a presidential election, due largely to being a southerner, which was an anomaly. Clinton got part of it for the same reason.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_maps

If you think that the welcoming of those good ol' boys didn't change the Repub party, you're sadly mistaken.

 

[Matt1970]

No, what you're seeing are the limits of his range. Matt is simply not equipped to have even a low-level philosophical discussion. You can't fit five gallons of water in a one gallon bucket. Well, unless you exceed the water's electron degeneracy pressure. And if you exceed the neutron degeneracy pressure you could fit all the water in the universe in the bucket. But that's not important right now. All you need to know is if you try to fit all the information in the Universe into Matt's brain, all you get is Hawking radiation out.

That would make me a black hole. Cute, but don't you have some ponies you should be playing with?

 

[etrigan420]

lol you're complaining about an article (partially) written by Thomas Sowell, an American economist, social theorist, political philosopher, author and Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, and copied from a black conservative web site.

in your neck of the cracker-ass hillbilly white bread and mayo woods these folk are commonly referred to as uncle tom. god your a dumb fuck

O'Rly?

 

[Jhhnn]

Plus it is not as if the Democrats actually help the minorities. In fact they have done a great disservice to the black community

Exquisitely vague in a denialist sort of way. Exactly what disservice do you speak of?

See if you can turn that dog whistle talking point into a coherent argument.

 

[Meghan54]

You don't want anyone to go historical because it doesn't bode well for your views does it? And I only have to go back 4 years to show a KKK member repeatedly elected by other Democrats to be 3rd in line for the Presidency or to lead them in the Senate.

You were asked for the list of all the representatives that switched parties and you have yet to come up with it. Maybe they didn't have a way to keep records in the 80's.

And while you gloat in the fact that some Democrats were as bad as Republicans in their racist tendencies, you seem to also be unable to grasp history and historical significance of Dem. vs. Repub. in the South.


If you have yet to realize, Democrats in the South are Republicans by another name.....ultra conservative....and have rarely meshed with the national Democratic platforms. Otherwise, how can one explain the overwhelmingly consistent voting Republican in presidential elections cycle after cycle for decades in a region that, until "recent" history, elected almost exclusively local office holders form the Democrat party?

Of course, to explain WHY this has happened would mean rehashing your 8th grade history and civics classes, but why go there when you either willfully ignore what you were taught/exposed to about American history or just never bothered to learn.

 

[Matt1970]

And while you gloat in the fact that some Democrats were as bad as Republicans in their racist tendencies, you seem to also be unable to grasp history and historical significance of Dem. vs. Repub. in the South.


If you have yet to realize, Democrats in the South are Republicans by another name.....ultra conservative....and have rarely meshed with the national Democratic platforms. Otherwise, how can one explain the overwhelmingly consistent voting Republican in presidential elections cycle after cycle for decades in a region that, until "recent" history, elected almost exclusively local office holders form the Democrat party?

Of course, to explain WHY this has happened would mean rehashing your 8th grade history and civics classes, but why go there when you either willfully ignore what you were taught/exposed to about American history or just never bothered to learn.

Same old shit from you folks. Any time you don't like the smell on the shoes of the Democrat party you just say they aren't really Democrats. The problem the left has is they think this is some game where at the end as long as the dems win by one point in the racists category, they somehow are no longer racists.

 

[HomerJS]

The majority of Republicans I know have expressed that the only reasons why someone who is of a minority background was selected over a non-minority because of affirmative action, etc. This, of course, implying that the non-minority is automatically the better candidate despite not knowing anything else about the two.

:hmm:

Asians gave Obama almost 70% of their vote.

Guess it was all that Asian affirmative action

 

[dank69]

Same old shit from you folks. Any time you don't like the smell on the shoes of the Democrat party you just say they aren't really Democrats. The problem the left has is they think this is some game where at the end as long as the dems win by one point in the racists category, they somehow are no longer racists.

It's posts like these that make me wonder if you are just trolling. While you consistently make it clear you aren't very bright, I don't believe you are this stupid.

 

[row]

O'Rly?

aw, spell checker. refreshing to see someone who realizes their limitations and posts accordingly :thumbsup:

 

[Zaap]

If you have yet to realize, Democrats in the South are Republicans by another name.....ultra conservative....and have rarely meshed with the national Democratic platforms. Otherwise, how can one explain the overwhelmingly consistent voting Republican in presidential elections cycle after cycle for decades in a region that, until "recent" history, elected almost exclusively local office holders form the Democrat party?

Before posting this ignorance, did you even bother to check election maps? http://www.270towin.com/historical-presidential-elections/

I also might remind you, Democrats have run Southerners as presidential and/or VP candidates, fearing they can't win any other way. ( Maybe Dims forgot about Johnson/Carter/Clinton/Gore/ But of course such an obvious "Southern Strategy" isn't racist when the party of Jim Crow, segregation and the KKK pulls it.