Republicans Twittering away credibility

[retrospooty]

There is a great article on CNN.com today about the reps blowing away any chance that they have at credibility... its a small one pager, but to sum it up... The point made is this. The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive. How can the public take their complaints seriously about the economy, healthcare, war, or anythig else (most of which they DO have valid points to make) when they wont even give a positive word when one is obviously deserved, as in with the Pirate situation over the weekend.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITI...republicans/index.html

Here's the problem: If Republicans can't allow that the president did his job well in this unambiguous case, why should we believe their complaints about anything else? If they can't pat him on the back for this one, why should we even listen to their arguments about the budget, about health care, about energy? If Republicans want Americans to see their arguments as credible -- as they may well be -- they need to present themselves as the credible opposition.

I feel the same about the reps on this forum... Every day there are several new posts about something or other that Obama is doing with the exact same MO a the reps in congress... Crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

How is it they expect anyone, other than other reps to take them seriously? If all you do is spout out negative, people tend to stop listening and rule out your opinion alltogether.

 

[StageLeft]

Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

QFT. But oh the irony.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

That's true and of course the lesson to take away is: pick your battles. If you flip out over something trivial on a daily basis, pretty soon people start to tune you out.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

Which is most likely why the Dem's lost the 2004 election.


The Republicans may seem to be stuck on stupid right now, but it is because they are fragmented. It will take them some time to find their message after the mess Bush & Co. made of things.

 

[bbdub333]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

Hard to argue with this fact.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
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That's true and of course the lesson to take away is: pick your battles. If you flip out over something trivial on a daily basis, pretty soon people start to tune you out.

Agree 100% - pick your battles wisely.

Never were better words for a politician (or a husband for that matter)

Fern

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

Which is most likely why the Dem's lost the 2004 election.


The Republicans may seem to be stuck on stupid right now, but it is because they are fragmented. It will take them some time to find their message after the mess Bush & Co. made of things.

The problem with that is...they're going to need entirely new players, a lot of these people have just dug themselves into gigantic hole and alienated a lot of people.

 

[Siddhartha]

The GOP is playing the classic role of the royal opposition. They have to be hoping that Mr Obama crashes and burns and that they can crank up anti Obama fear and outrage otherwise they can kiss the white house away for the next couple election cycles.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

That's true and of course the lesson to take away is: pick your battles. If you flip out over something trivial on a daily basis, pretty soon people start to tune you out.

Hard to say considering the success the democrat party as had demonizing everything Bush did which spilled over to Republican congressional and house members.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

Yeah it's not like the negativity towards Bush was justified or anything :roll:

Even many Republicans thought he was a failure.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

That's true and of course the lesson to take away is: pick your battles. If you flip out over something trivial on a daily basis, pretty soon people start to tune you out.

Hard to say considering the success the democrat party as had demonizing everything Bush did which spilled over to Republican congressional and house members.

You mean the democratic party? Are you not demonizing an entire political party and roughly 1/2 of America every time you repeat that Limbaugh-esque slur?

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

That's true and of course the lesson to take away is: pick your battles. If you flip out over something trivial on a daily basis, pretty soon people start to tune you out.

Hard to say considering the success the democrat party as had demonizing everything Bush did which spilled over to Republican congressional and house members.

Bush fell under his own weight - it was ultimately the abject failure of his policies, both domestic and international that did him in in the end, not the democrats' demonization.

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

Yeah it's not like the negativity towards Bush was justified or anything :roll:

Even many Republicans thought he was a failure.

I am trying hard to think of something positive that Bush did.

Other than the Hawaii nature reserve? And I know people gave him props for that.

But seriously, do we have any examples? Not like it matters I guess...

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

That's true and of course the lesson to take away is: pick your battles. If you flip out over something trivial on a daily basis, pretty soon people start to tune you out.

Hard to say considering the success the democrat party as had demonizing everything Bush did which spilled over to Republican congressional and house members.

You mean the democratic party? Are you not demonizing an entire political party and roughly 1/2 of America every time you repeat that Limbaugh-esque slur?

Really? Democrat or Democratic party? Take the stick out of your ass and return to reality.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

Largely true, but looking back at Bush's 8 year record, there frankly are hardly any real "wins" to speak of. I suppose you could say initial success in Afghanistan, but the dems largely recognized that and authorized the Iraq war as a result.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

That's true and of course the lesson to take away is: pick your battles. If you flip out over something trivial on a daily basis, pretty soon people start to tune you out.

Hard to say considering the success the democrat party as had demonizing everything Bush did which spilled over to Republican congressional and house members.

Bush fell under his own weight - it was ultimately the abject failure of his policies, both domestic and international that did him in in the end, not the democrats' demonization.

Uh huh and name one of Bush's major policies Obama is changing that had the democrats up in arms? Still deficit spending, still fighting the war in the ME, still deny habea corpus, still using wiretapping techniques.

The demonization painted everything he did as evil, wrong, and dumb. Funny how when Obama continues many of Bush's policies suddenly it is a pragmatic approach to a problem.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

With the Iraqi invasion, Katrina, the outing of Ms Plame, just to name a few, the Democrats did not have to fake outrage like the GOP is doing now.

 

[microbial]

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

That's true and of course the lesson to take away is: pick your battles. If you flip out over something trivial on a daily basis, pretty soon people start to tune you out.

Hard to say considering the success the democrat party as had demonizing everything Bush did which spilled over to Republican congressional and house members.

Bush fell under his own weight - it was ultimately the abject failure of his policies, both domestic and international that did him in in the end, not the democrats' demonization.

Revisionism is in full flower.

W in many ways was another teflon president (mostly due to 9/11), unfettered and unobstructed by the cowering and cowardly democrats--and he largely got done everything he wanted to get through. His 2nd term most certainly was due to our international involvement.

The irony here is that Republicans thrive on obstruction. That is their trademark, and that is what we have today, vis-a-vis the OP.

W's entire administration was based on propaganda and intimidation, and you were practically branded of treason if you dared to criticize.

Fantasyland is alive and well.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

Yeah it's not like the negativity towards Bush was justified or anything :roll:

Even many Republicans thought he was a failure.

I am trying hard to think of something positive that Bush did.

Other than the Hawaii nature reserve? And I know people gave him props for that.

But seriously, do we have any examples? Not like it matters I guess...

African aid comes to mind. Also, his persciption drug plan (which is flawed and I'm waiting for Dems to fix...but definitely is better than nothing). Not exactly a long list for sure.

 

[MagicConch]

People have short memories and won't care in 4 years that Republicans dogged this president. What will hurt them long-term is that they cannot rely on fiscal irresponsibility to bolster their numbers anymore since both sides are committed to deficit spending.

Originally posted by: OrByte

I am trying hard to think of something positive that Bush did.

Other than the Hawaii nature reserve? And I know people gave him props for that.

But seriously, do we have any examples? Not like it matters I guess...

He didn't pass around pardons as freely as other presidents which was impressive as well.

 

[Genx87]

He also pushed through the bank bailout which imo saved us from going into a depression.

 

[EXman]

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

That's true and of course the lesson to take away is: pick your battles. If you flip out over something trivial on a daily basis, pretty soon people start to tune you out.

Hard to say considering the success the democrat party as had demonizing everything Bush did which spilled over to Republican congressional and house members.

Bush fell under his own weight - it was ultimately the abject failure of his policies, both domestic and international that did him in in the end, not the democrats' demonization.

yes and no... The Media was and is in the tank for everything and anything demonizing President Bush. There were so few ideas put forward by the dems due to seeing that demonizing Bush seemed to work so why do anything else. Hell BHO ran against Bush. McCain was a figure head that was wooed and exaulted by the media for his left of true conservative values until he was the nominee then turned on him.

Don't get me wrong GWB is a goober but hell Everything is still Bush's fault and any credit is going to BHO according to the media/BHO administration itself.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Genx87
He also pushed through the bank bailout which imo saved us from going into a depression.

b-b-b-b-ut i thought republicans wanted the free market to work and the banks to fail, not this socialist B.S!

Oh wait, it was bush who did that so he gets a pass... but Obama's followup to Bush's actions is s-s-s-s-sOCIALISM! :Q

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Your point is valid but

The republicans are crapping all over anything and everything Obama does - picking it apart with a fine-tooth comb, exaggerating the negative and ignoring the positive.

This is exactly and I mean 100% PRECISELY what democrats did with Bush in office. It becomes impossible to take either demonizing side seriously.

That's true and of course the lesson to take away is: pick your battles. If you flip out over something trivial on a daily basis, pretty soon people start to tune you out.

Hard to say considering the success the democrat party as had demonizing everything Bush did which spilled over to Republican congressional and house members.

Bush fell under his own weight - it was ultimately the abject failure of his policies, both domestic and international that did him in in the end, not the democrats' demonization.

Uh huh and name one of Bush's major policies Obama is changing that had the democrats up in arms? Still deficit spending, still fighting the war in the ME, still deny habea corpus, still using wiretapping techniques.

The demonization painted everything he did as evil, wrong, and dumb. Funny how when Obama continues many of Bush's policies suddenly it is a pragmatic approach to a problem.

It's beginning to look more and more that Obama is a pragmatist...I personally like that about him. I think he'll be in trouble though if our economy starts recovering before all this stimulus spending takes effect.