Republicans know they're in trouble once the website problems are solved

[Doc Savage Fan]

Looks like he got some goodies in exchange, unlike Bush who just wrote big pharma a blank check.

That backroom deal was never executed...but it sure as hell pissed off Dem leadership and I don't blame them!

 

[Druidx]

I’m surprised none of the ObamaCare fans haven’t been in here yet to proclaim “ See it wasn’t a complete failure after all, 6 people were able to apply”.

 

[boomerang]

Stick a Fork in Obama

He's done.

America put men on the moon. Now, with 3 ½ years and a half a billion dollars, we can't even build a website. This is how much Barry and his ilk have degraded the brand. We used to be the shining light on the hill. Now, we are darkness at the end of the tunnel. Barack Obama has been the worst thing that has ever happened to the Oval Office, and in the end, ObamaCare will seal his fate as a failed president.

Well...after the IRS targeting of political opponents, the NSA spying on everyone -- including the tapping of the German Chancellor's cell phone, the Fast and Furious dead, Solyndra and all the other crony capitalist backroom deals, the Pigford payouts, his $6 trillion addition to the national debt, the 13.6% U6 unemployment rate, the increase in food stamp and disability rolls, the Benghazi dead and the cover-up, the Syria embarrassment, the racial divisiveness, the doubling of the price of gasoline, and now, Healthcare.gov, people are starting to realize a thing or two about Mr. Hope and Change.

If you think people hate the website, wait until they get a load of ObamaCare itself. If I did not have such a visceral dislike for the man, I would almost feel sorry for him...it's going to be a long three plus years for Barack Obama.

 

[Matt1970]

So lets recap. Republicans know they're in trouble once the website is fixed, once the people forget about the lies, forget how expensive Obamacare is (if that's possible) and forget how many people who were doing the right thing and had insurance were forced out of their insurance.

 

[IGBT]

Americans will experience the negotiated corruption of obama care.. broken web site or not. Experience and financial purge are the lessons on the horizon to be learned.

 

[1prophet]

Yes, if you have a non-Grandfathered plan, as in if you got your insurance plan after mid-2010, your plan may be cancelled by the insurance company. The replacement plans are often more expensive.

From that quote, it is an untrue statement.

BARACK OBAMA, Feb. 25, 2010: Actually, any insurance that you currently have would be grandfathered in so you could keep it. So you could decide not to get in the exchange the better plan. I could keep my Acme Insurance, just a high deductible catastrophic plan. I would not be required to get the better one

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-bl...u-can-keep-your-acme-high-deduc#ixzz2jPi1gihT
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That's called bait and switch and you know it, people don't put up with that when they are buying a car from the auto dealers, who are notorious for that, they shouldn't have to buy it from the president.

Oh and the Republicans can go pound salt too, Obama handed them an Atomic bomb to use against him here and the idiots still are more interested in wasting time and the little credibility they have left proving he is a Muslim and where his birth certificate is.

 

[trenchfoot]

The Obamaboogieman is coming to get you! Hide the women and children! Break out the pitchforks and torches and full auto M-4's! Secede! Secede! Revolt!

C'mon guys, back off on the drama a bit, it's gone over the edge and into the Hannity fiefdom of Palin Land, fer cry'in out loud.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

The Obamaboogieman is coming to get you! Hide the women and children! Break out the pitchforks and torches and full auto M-4's! Secede! Secede! Revolt!

C'mon guys, back off on the drama a bit, it's gone over the edge and into the Hannity fiefdom of Palin Land, fer cry'in out loud.

If anyone is being a drama queen...it's you. If you think someone has gone over the edge, it might be more constructive to address it directly with rationality rather than spewing inane hyperbole.

 

[TerryMathews]

If anyone is being a drama queen...it's you. If you think someone has gone over the edge, it might be more constructive to address it directly with rationality rather than spewing inane hyperbole.

Ever notice how the libs that are so bothered by Hannity and Rush, sound absolutely crazy when they get worked up?

I mean, batshit crazy.

 

[BoberFett]

Ever notice how the libs that are so bothered by Hannity and Rush, sound absolutely crazy when they get worked up?

I mean, batshit crazy.

I notice all the time. They accuse others of "faux rage" as they spit all over their monitors going crazy on the internet.

 

[dank69]

Stick a Fork in Obama

He's done.

I'm totally surprised you could find two quotes from American "Thinker" that are critical of Obama. Surely a sign of the end times.

 

[dank69]

Don't forget the 1600 new IRS IRS agents and all the administrative/clerical people that are now leeching off of the taxpayers.

Schmuck is a great name for you. Not only are you regurgitating completely debunked talking points from 3 years ago, you don't even have the correct false number.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Ever notice how the libs that are so bothered by Hannity and Rush, sound absolutely crazy when they get worked up?

I mean, batshit crazy.

IMO both sides go batshit crazy at times.

 

[Matt1970]

Schmuck is a great name for you. Not only are you regurgitating completely debunked talking points from 3 years ago, you don't even have the correct false number.

LOL, the correct false number? Maybe he was 95% correct?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Schmuck is a great name for you. Not only are you regurgitating completely debunked talking points from 3 years ago, you don't even have the correct false number.

Speaking of politifact...

 

[dank69]

Speaking of politifact...

That must be a spoofed site because Politifact is a left-leaning website that never criticizes Democrats.

 

[TerryMathews]

That must be a spoofed site because Politifact is a left-leaning website that never criticizes Democrats.

You're probably right. Rush and Hannity probably hacked the interwebs from their conservatard bunker...

 

[schmuckley]

Schmuck is a great name for you. Not only are you regurgitating completely debunked talking points from 3 years ago, you don't even have the correct false number.

"For the current fiscal year, the IRS requested funding for more than 1,250 employees to prepare for the health care tax changes, according to its budget proposal. Most would fill support roles in areas such as information technology or customer service. Fewer than one-quarter would be agents.

For next fiscal year, the IRS requested funding for nearly 860 employees. Fewer than 10 percent would be agents.

This places the agent tally for fiscal years 2012 and 2013 near 375." Source: http://www.politifact.com/georgia/s...16000-irs-agents-will-enforce-obama-health-c/

1250+860=what? :hmm: 2110 new IRS workers
2110 X 35k=what? $73850000
35K is a very conservative estimate
That's 73 Million dollars in added tax burden.(at the minimum)

Yeah..I'll let you figure that one out..maybe...If you're not indoctrinated with the new math system yet

 

[dank69]

"For the current fiscal year, the IRS requested funding for more than 1,250 employees to prepare for the health care tax changes, according to its budget proposal. Most would fill support roles in areas such as information technology or customer service. Fewer than one-quarter would be agents.

For next fiscal year, the IRS requested funding for nearly 860 employees. Fewer than 10 percent would be agents.

This places the agent tally for fiscal years 2012 and 2013 near 375." Source: http://www.politifact.com/georgia/s...16000-irs-agents-will-enforce-obama-health-c/

1250+860=what? :hmm: 2110 new IRS workers
2110 X 35k=what? $73850000
35K is a very conservative estimate
That's 73 Million dollars in added tax burden.(at the minimum)

Yeah..I'll let you figure that one out..maybe...If you're not indoctrinated with the new math system yet

Meanwhile, in your original claim, you said "agents" and the link you just supplied says in the part that you actually quoted that only 375 are agents.

Further, lets take your 2110 and multiply by an optimistic $60k/yr and divide by 350,000,000 for a rough estimate of $0.36 per US citizen. The horror!

 

[ivwshane]

You know, I sometimes wonder just how much of what is going on would be a surprise to our dear friends on the left because their news sources aren't reporting things like this.

Lol! You say this and yet his post had a link from the huffiington post! Do you realize how big of a hack you are?

 

[dank69]

Lol! You say this and yet his post had a link from the huffiington post! Do you realize how big of a hack you are?

Boomerang is fully aware of how big a hack he is. He just doesn't care. He isn't very big on intellectual honesty. He is a full blown propaganda puppet. Sort of like a ProfJohn lite.

 

[nixium]

See this is what I mean. Trying to shut the government over this is a bad idea - any policy should live or die by the sword, so to speak.

Instead we lost 18 days of economic activity.

Tea party/repubs just don't have strategic thinking.

 

[BoberFett]

See this is what I mean. Trying to shut the government over this is a bad idea - any policy should live or die by the sword, so to speak.

Instead we lost 18 days of economic activity.

Tea party/repubs just don't have strategic thinking.

Gone? 18 days? The whole country just stopped?

We should probably eliminate federal holidays. Imagine how much economic activity is lost letting government employees stay home on Christmas.

 

[werepossum]

Could be. Fortunately Obama is not running for anything, and he is in till 2017, so Obamacare has a pretty long runway to iron out the kinks. By then, a lot of people will depend on it, and there will be no going back, only forward. New reforms will come along, but a repeal without a replacement is not going to be politically acceptable.
We are finally reforming health care, it will be interesting to see where we end up when all is said and done, but the ball is rolling.

That's a point that too many Republican pols forget, that underneath all the fail Obamacare does do some good things. Therefore repealing it should include a passed plan to keep the good things as well as eliminate the bad things. I think though that this roll-out has done too much damage to our health insurance industry to practically roll back, and any replacement is likely to get bogged down in lobbying for bennies. I suspect we're going to crash hard. This may have been the intent all along, although personally I thought they were shooting for gradually destroying the health insurance industry rather than one big Hiroshima.

Six (6).

What's that?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...e-on-first-day-internal-notes-show/?hpt=hp_t1

Several hundreds million spent and several years of work and that was the result?

Wow. I too am speechless.

"The answer is six."
"What is fail, Alex. I'll take Big Government for $400, please."

Gone? 18 days? The whole country just stopped?

We should probably eliminate federal holidays. Imagine how much economic activity is lost letting government employees stay home on Christmas.

LOL If it isn't done by Government, it doesn't count, for everything that is good and holy comes from the golden nectar of the bureaucrats as they hose down the great unwashed.

 

[Fern]

From 2010:
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatc...s-do-over-on-healthcare-grandfathering-clause



http://www.familiesusa.org/assets/pdfs/health-reform/Grandfathered-Plans.pdf

I blame the insurance companies but I'm sure you wont and you will stick to your anti Obama crap.

How the heck can HI companies be blamed? They didn't write the regulations, the Obama admin did.

Right now I've got two completely opposite thoughts on the cancellations:

1) The HI companies wanted this, and the Obama admin gave it to them, so they could 'up-sell' you a more expensive policy (due to all the new "essential benefits" required by Obamacare) thus making more money/profit.

2) The insurance companies do NOT want this. The Obama admin's regulations force them to cancel your policy with the result being you go shopping around on the website etc. for conforming coverage. I don't know of any business that wants to see their customers go shopping around. I heard an HI exec talking about this (cancelling policies and their customers forced to shop around) he sure as heck didn't seem happy about it. He seemed very believable that they would have much preferred their customers just continue on with them as usual. TBH, I really can't understand how any business would want to cancel 80% of their customers and see them hit the exchanges to shop around.

Fern