Republicans face unexpected challenges in coastal South amid shrinking white vote

[Phokus]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...cbda58-336a-11e2-bb9b-288a310849ee_print.html

I will laugh my ass off if Republicans are not only fucked over by the growing Hispanic demgraphic, but also the shrinking racist white vote in the south. The GOP is going to have to spend a ton of money just to keep some of those states come 2012/2016. I'd love to see GA go to the democrats.

 

[WHAMPOM]

The Dixiecrats that jumped ship in the Sixties to give the Republicans their Southern majority are finally dying off!

 

[jpeyton]

In 30 years, when the Latino population in Texas is large enough to turn the state blue, Presidential elections won't matter anymore. NY + CA + TX = The White House every single time.

The GOP as we know it today has an expiration date. The Tea Party was the last hurrah for their backwards social and economic policies. A few decades from now when we look back to this era, we'll realize our nation's shifting demographics in the south forced the party to change for the better.

 

[techs]

The Dixiecrats that jumped ship in the Sixties to give the Republicans their Southern majority are finally dying off!

You have to wonder how the Republicans pro smoking, pro fast food, anti health food policies have helped to kill off their base.

Maybe the Republican base has just gotten too fat to get out of the house to vote.:biggrin:

 

[Moonbeam]

Probably negative ions created over oceanic expanses or other large expanses of water, and carried inland by local breezes account for the coastlines and land water boundaries of the world being progressive.

 

[techs]

Probably negative ions created over oceanic expanses or other large expanses of water, and carried inland by local breezes account for the coastlines and land water boundaries of the world being progressive.

Its definitely either that or books.

 

[uclaLabrat]

In 30 years, when the Latino population in Texas is large enough to turn the state blue, Presidential elections won't matter anymore. NY + CA + TX = The White House every single time.

The GOP as we know it today has an expiration date. The Tea Party was the last hurrah for their backwards social and economic policies. A few decades from now when we look back to this era, we'll realize our nation's shifting demographics in the south forced the party to change for the better.

That's an exceedingly myopic view. The republican party will only keep pandering to its rabid right base as long as it's politically expedient. This election has shown that the tea party is no longer viable in the shifting demographics of this country. The party has zero loyalty, it will throw them under the bus instead of losing elections. Parties are whores, when the john runs out of money, it's time to find a new patron.

They will adapt their message, attempt to broaden their tent, and remain viable. Each party has done it before, they will do it again. The republicans aren't going anywhere, the tea party is going into the toilet.

 

[fskimospy]

That's an exceedingly myopic view. The republican party will only keep pandering to its rabid right base as long as it's politically expedient. This election has shown that the tea party is no longer viable in the shifting demographics of this country. The party has zero loyalty, it will throw them under the bus instead of losing elections. Parties are whores, when the john runs out of money, it's time to find a new patron.

They will adapt their message, attempt to broaden their tent, and remain viable. Each party has done it before, they will do it again. The republicans aren't going anywhere, the tea party is going into the toilet.

Yeap. Parties exist to win elections, if the current makeup of the party can't win it will change until it can. Sure it might take a few election cycles for them to realize it, but it will happen.

Fun thing to do is look at some video representations of congressional ideology over time. What you basically see is the two parties circling each other as each acts to fill an opening left by the other.

 

[Anarchist420]

The two party duopoly is a creation of the Illuminati. It was in Adam Weishaupt's plan. It's better to just try to work within the two party system... labels don't cause symptoms.

Third party candidates always get absorbed into the Republican Party, sometimes the Democratic Party.

There will always be only two major parties because third parties don't last and the men who run them don't last forever.

The problem in the U.S. is not the two party system at all, it's the Constitution which increased the size of the Federal govt which then allowed big business to trick people who don't do a good job thinking. The Federalists should have supported Hamilton's proposed Constitutional Monarchy (which he would've been at least the leader of the military, if not the people) because then America would've been in constant revolution more like France was and so the U.S. gov never would've had the power to rule the world... It's better to be homogenous pussies than divided aggressive dicks.

 

[feralkid]

The two party duopoly is a creation of the Illuminati. It was in Adam Weishaupt's plan. It's better to just try to work within the two party system... labels don't cause symptoms.

Third party candidates always get absorbed into the Republican Party, sometimes the Democratic Party.

There will always be only two major parties because third parties don't last and the men who run them don't last forever.

The problem in the U.S. is not the two party system at all, it's the Constitution which increased the size of the Federal govt which then allowed big business to trick people who don't do a good job thinking. The Federalists should have supported Hamilton's proposed Constitutional Monarchy (which he would've been at least the leader of the military, if not the people) because then America would've been in constant revolution more like France was and so the U.S. gov never would've had the power to rule the world... It's better to be homogenous pussies than divided aggressive dicks.

Ron Paul 2016, right?

 

[Anarchist420]

Ron Paul 2016, right?

Ron Paul forever would be best.

 

[Meghan54]

Ron Paul 2016, right?

No, he plays too much Deus Ex.

 

[trenchfoot]

The problem I see for the Repubs is that their ideology is in direct contrast with the changing demographics of the country.

The Repub ideology is basically Plutocratic in nature, which lends itself to being exclusionary rather than inclusionary.

It's hard or near impossible to change an ideology based on minority rule while still needing the votes of a majority in opposition to actually exist as a political entity.

We've already seen how the Repubs tried to overcome this obstacle using among other more subtle ploys, voter disenfranchisement, voter suppression and gerrymandering being used to accomplish their goal of minority rule.

And we've also seen how the Repubs employed minority rule in the Senate via filibustering, etc. So it seems to me this hard and fixed track they've laid for themselves is diamterically at odds with establishing a big tent philosophy akin to the Dems, which, for the Dems, is practically intrinsic in their own ideological principles.

Two parties vying for a changing demographic that inherently favors the Dems is something the Repubs will need witchcraft and god-like powers of deception to overcome. Not saying it's impossible seeing as if deception and misrepresenting themselves have been powerful and well-employed tools that they've used with striking effectiveness in the past.

I do think the Repubs have learned from this past election cycle that they can't be as honest, forthright and, well.....blatant in their ideological quest for minority rule.

 

[nehalem256]

The problem I see for the Repubs is that their ideology is in direct contrast with the changing demographics of the country.

The Repub ideology is basically Plutocratic in nature, which lends itself to being exclusionary rather than inclusionary.

It's hard or near impossible to change an ideology based on minority rule while still needing the votes of a majority in opposition to actually exist as a political entity.

We've already seen how the Repubs tried to overcome this obstacle using among other more subtle ploys, voter disenfranchisement, voter suppression and gerrymandering being used to accomplish their goal of minority rule.

And we've also seen how the Repubs employed minority rule in the Senate via filibustering, etc. So it seems to me this hard and fixed track they've laid for themselves is diamterically at odds with establishing a big tent philosophy akin to the Dems, which, for the Dems, is practically intrinsic in their own ideological principles.

Two parties vying for a changing demographic that inherently favors the Dems is something the Repubs will need witchcraft and god-like powers of deception to overcome. Not saying it's impossible seeing as if deception and misrepresenting themselves have been powerful and well-employed tools that they've used with striking effectiveness in the past.

I do think the Repubs have learned from this past election cycle that they can't be as honest, forthright and, well.....blatant in their ideological quest for minority rule.

If the Republicans had been willing to compromise 5% on their no-tax obsession after their 2010 thwacking of the Democrats and never mentioned the word rape they quite likely would have won in 2012.

 

[Incorruptible]

If the Republicans had been willing to compromise 5% on their no-tax obsession after their 2010 thwacking of the Democrats and never mentioned the word rape they quite likely would have won in 2012.

This and that pos obama would be out of the WhiteHouse. The democrats also pandered to women to help them win such as the fake `war on women`

 

[nehalem256]

This and that pos obama would be out of the WhiteHouse. The democrats also pandered to women to help them win such as the fake `war on women`

The sad part was all of the pandering to women didn't gain Obama any additional women voters over 2008.

EDIT: And while Romney won 44% of female voters and Obama won 45% of male voters you do not hear any talk about the Democrats having a male problem. I wonder why?

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/11/06/4966431/2012-election-exit-poll-shows.html

 

[shadow9d9]

The "war on women" has been extensive. Not only pushing the whole rape is god's will angle, but the unnecessary medical procedures for women, anti contraception stances, votes against equal pay, etc. There is a reason that women don't support this, and it isn't because any of it is "fake."

 

[shadow9d9]

The sad part was all of the pandering to women didn't gain Obama any additional women voters over 2008.

EDIT: And while Romney won 44% of female voters and Obama won 45% of male voters you do not hear any talk about the Democrats having a male problem. I wonder why?

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/11/06/4966431/2012-election-exit-poll-shows.html

There was no pandering to women though, that is the funny part of your delusion. All they had to do was sit back and let the pro rape, pro interference in the bedroom, and pro unnecessary medical procedures to humiliate women party do what they do best. The republicans are assuring that the newer generations of women won't go anywhere near them.

 

[nehalem256]

The "war on women" has been extensive. Not only pushing the whole rape is god's will angle, but the unnecessary medical procedures for women,

You mean making abortion harder.

anti contraception stances,

You mean not paying for them. By your logic the Democrats having an anti-lexus stance because they won't buy me one :hmm:

votes against equal pay, etc.

You mean refusing to pander to the feminist lie that money grubbing corporations that will outsource to china to save 10 cents will pay men more to do the same work.

There is a reason that women don't support this, and it isn't because any of it is "fake."

And yet 44% of women and a majority of married women voted Republican.

 

[nehalem256]

There was no pandering to women though, that is the funny part of your delusion. All they had to do was sit back and let the pro rape, pro interference in the bedroom, and pro unnecessary medical procedures to humiliate women party do what they do best. The republicans are assuring that the newer generations of women won't go anywhere near them.

What interference in the bedroom are you talking about?

EDIT: http://www.barackobama.com/life-of-julia/ no pandering huh?

 

[techs]

The sad part was all of the pandering to women didn't gain Obama any additional women voters over 2008.

EDIT: And while Romney won 44% of female voters and Obama won 45% of male voters you do not hear any talk about the Democrats having a male problem. I wonder why?

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/11/06/4966431/2012-election-exit-poll-shows.html

Because among younger voters the Democrats don't have a male voter problem.

And the War on Women doesn't exist? Only one party wants to dildo rape women who want an abortion.

 

[Incorruptible]

Because among younger voters the Democrats don't have a male voter problem.

And the War on Women doesn't exist? Only one party wants to dildo rape women who want an abortion.

The war on women started by the democrats

 

[nehalem256]

Because among younger voters the Democrats don't have a male voter problem.

Haven't young voters always historically voted Democratic?

And the War on Women doesn't exist? Only one party wants to dildo rape women who want an abortion.

Republicans want to ban abortion. Democrats are the ones that seem to have a problem with the word abortion.

EDIT: Republicans would be much happier if their were no "dildo rapes" of women.

 

[jpeyton]

The party has zero loyalty, it will throw them under the bus instead of losing elections. Parties are whores, when the john runs out of money, it's time to find a new patron.

They will adapt their message, attempt to broaden their tent, and remain viable. Each party has done it before, they will do it again. The republicans aren't going anywhere, the tea party is going into the toilet.

Isn't that exactly what I said?

The GOP as we know it today has an expiration date. The Tea Party was the last hurrah for their backwards social and economic policies.

Yep, it was.

To adapt their message and broaden their tent means they'll have to do a one-eighty on current positions regarding reproductive rights, LGBT rights, immigration policy, and economic policy. The growing demographics in this country disagree with the GOP on all those issues. When the Republicans get curb-stomped in 2016, there is going to be some very high-level discussions on the party platform going forward.

 

[Incorruptible]

So the democrats hurt women by supporting the welfare and making them dependent yet there not the ones waging the war on women