dank69
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So you are unaware that House seats are supposed to be granted to the states based on their relative population? The very reason for the existence of the House is to give every voter equal representation.
BurnItDwn
Lifer
- Oct 10, 1999
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I see the republicans today sort of like the Federalists of Jeffereson's presidency. Their primary objective was not to do what was best for the country, but instead, to do what would obstruct their opposition the most. This was the demise of the federalist party.
If the republicans continue down the same path of focusing on obstructing everything the democrats want to do rather than working with them to solve problems, the repetition of history only has 1 outcome. The eventual dissolution of the republican party. When that happens, the democratic party will probably split, or, one of the smaller parties will grow by an order of magnitude or two....
If the republicans continue down the same path of focusing on obstructing everything the democrats want to do rather than working with them to solve problems, the repetition of history only has 1 outcome. The eventual dissolution of the republican party. When that happens, the democratic party will probably split, or, one of the smaller parties will grow by an order of magnitude or two....
And what about what you just said implies that looking at the nationwide popular vote is in anyway relevant to determining the makeup of the House?
dank69
Lifer
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I'm not going to explain 5th grade math to you. You just continue to hold on to your delusions as tight as you can.
nextJin
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Put it into context next time, this isint just a simple ass kicking like McCain took. It is a lot more than that. Your entire ideology is quickly dying, many conservatives (new Libertarians, Contitutional Conservatives, etc.) have all learned to adapt and improvise.
If you earned the Ron Paul vote you would have won, fortunately that was nigh impossible. That must be pretty damning for you I know, but look at some statistics. Then look at demographics, changes in the youth vote etc.
It's all very much apparent to critical thinkers in both parties which is why you have a lot of Republicans talking about change.
Have fun.
Matt1970
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2% popular vote is not a "lot more than an ass kicking" by any stretch. You say we are dying but then suggest if we picked up Ron Paul's votes, which are largely right leaning voters, we would have won.
Agree. It is the democrats waging a war on women, look at all the single women on welfare and the democrats think this is alright
The democrats wage a war on women not the republicans
Keep repeating that! I love it! Reality of course shows different.. but keep it going... because the more the republicans show how insane and delusional they are, the more they will continue to lose the youth and women!
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You forgot one thing: electoral vote 332 to 206
The margin is going to be even wider in the future. Especially when Texas goes blue.
Take a seat!
The worst candidate in history is always the most recent GOP candidate.
The days when the GOP could win by using identity politics to get only the white vote are over. White men no longer rule the country. It's now ruled by a diverse group of people.
Romney's support was 90% white. How did he get that? Identity politics, offering old white people the most government stuff and denying it to everyone else. Obama's coalition was very diverse and broad. That's how you win elections these days. The KKK strategy doesn't work anymore, Republicans.
sportage
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This thread...
Election post game, they were talking about this too.
How did Obama win a second term?
Answer?
Shrinking white vote, increased minority vote.
Plain and simple.
Even with a higher white vote turnout for Romney in 2012, and with more of those whites going for Obama in 2008 than in 2012, the white vote figures were squashed by the new increasing minority vote turnout.
Those are pretty sobering stats for white voting republicans.
So what to do?
Go after that minority vote?
Suck up to the non white voters?
Well thats the problem. It is sucking up, not heart felt.
And minorities see right thru it.
Dooms day indeed for republicans.
Their only two cards to play in this game for republicans.
One... find new creative ways to cheat like redrawing districts to favor republicans and split up the states electoral college vote. No more winner takes all.
Two... place hopes on midterm elections.
Democrats and the minorities have a trend of not turning out during the midterms.
A real motivation problem.
And that is where the republicans can win by gaining seats in congress and governorships.
And with that, who needs the presidency?
A republican majority in both houses of congress along with a majority of governorships nation wide is nothing short of the perfect storm in politics.
And the only real hope for republicans.
Expect to see states changing how they vote and massive redrawing of districts in every republican controlled state between now and 2014.
That dead silence we are now hearing are republican controlled states busy trying to figure out just how to go about it.
.
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Election post game, they were talking about this too.
How did Obama win a second term?
Answer?
Shrinking white vote, increased minority vote.
Plain and simple.
Even with a higher white vote turnout for Romney in 2012, and with more of those whites going for Obama in 2008 than in 2012, the white vote figures were squashed by the new increasing minority vote turnout.
Those are pretty sobering stats for white voting republicans.
So what to do?
Go after that minority vote?
Suck up to the non white voters?
Well thats the problem. It is sucking up, not heart felt.
And minorities see right thru it.
Dooms day indeed for republicans.
Their only two cards to play in this game for republicans.
One... find new creative ways to cheat like redrawing districts to favor republicans and split up the states electoral college vote. No more winner takes all.
Two... place hopes on midterm elections.
Democrats and the minorities have a trend of not turning out during the midterms.
A real motivation problem.
And that is where the republicans can win by gaining seats in congress and governorships.
And with that, who needs the presidency?
A republican majority in both houses of congress along with a majority of governorships nation wide is nothing short of the perfect storm in politics.
And the only real hope for republicans.
Expect to see states changing how they vote and massive redrawing of districts in every republican controlled state between now and 2014.
That dead silence we are now hearing are republican controlled states busy trying to figure out just how to go about it.
.
.
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You obviously never even looked at the Romney and Obama websites.
Obama was the one that had pages devoted to sucking up to various groups/races not Romney.
I believe what you are engaging in is called projection.
The prediction is Texas is going blue in less then 7 years and the Republicants will truly be fucked....:twisted:
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/data.php?year=2008&datatype=national&def=1&f=0&off=0&elect=0
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/data.php?year=2012&datatype=national&def=1&f=0&off=0&elect=0
Texas results (Rep-Dem)
2008 55-44
2012 57-41
But hey don't let facts get in the way of your leftist circle jerk
Matt1970
Lifer
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romney got 90% of the white vote
that pos obama got 96% of the black vote and republicans are racist? The real racists are the white liberals suffering from white guilt and the democrats
Londo_Jowo
Lifer
Did the person that made that prediction also predict that Scott Walker was going to lose the recall vote?
The inner city and border city Hispanic vote may go predominately Democratic however, the Hispanics that are doing well and living in the suburbs vote tilted towards the Republicans. The Texas Republican party also has quite a few Hispanic members.
Matt1970
Lifer
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So? A 2% swing in the Republican direction and you would have had Romney with over 300 electoral votes. Or even worse, the 2000 election all over again. You are in the wrong seat.
Um did you read the link? President Obama won by 4 million votes in the popular vote.
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