Republican Party goes Double TransVaginal

[nehalem256]

that does not address the first statement at all. Doctors are quite capable of determining when an ultrasound is needed. I don't want my government mandating what should be optional.

Abortions are optional. Therefore transvaginal ultrasounds are also optional.

 

[Pohemi]

At it's core (in my opinion), this really has little to do with cost, and mostly to do with freedom of choice.

Although the right is constantly touting "smaller government, less taxes" and "more liberty and freedom", they seem to simply want more precise control over government and what it allows/forces you to do. Just my opinion.

 

[Brainonska511]

Abortions are optional. Therefore transvaginal ultrasounds are also optional.

A Hobson's Choice is not a really a choice.

 

[halik]

Abortions are optional. Therefore transvaginal ultrasounds are also optional.

With statements like that, you're either trying really hard to troll or just don't have the mental capacity to participate in the discourse on hand.

 

[TerryMathews]

that does not address the first statement at all. Doctors are quite capable of determining when an ultrasound is needed. I don't want my government mandating what should be optional.

Sure it does, you just don't like it. You can't use cost as an argument against a law restricting your rights.

 

[skyking]

You can when the medical professionals do not deem the procedure necessary. After that it is a penalty, nothing more.

 

[TerryMathews]

You can when the medical professionals do not deem the procedure necessary. After that it is a penalty, nothing more.

And again Congress has the right to institute a penalty. See above.

 

[nehalem256]

With statements like that, you're either trying really hard to troll or just don't have the mental capacity to participate in the discourse on hand.

You mean like when leftists say men aren't forced to pay child support because they can choose not to have sex?

 

[Jeff7]

Well, these are being introduced at the state level, not the federal level. So "small government" republicans (who are generally against large FEDERAL government) are true to their form.

States can do whatever the fuck they want within their constitutions, as per the 10th amendment. Don't like it? Move to a different state.

But of course, state governments are still governments; I'd expect them to want to keep them small as well.

"Small government" and "Keep the damn government out of my life!" - unless it has anything to do with genitals.

 

[nehalem256]

But of course, state governments are still governments; I'd expect them to want to keep them small as well.

"Small government" and "Keep the damn government out of my life!" - unless it has anything to do with genitals.

State governments are smaller governments though

 

[LunarRay]

Abortions are optional. Therefore transvaginal ultrasounds are also optional.

Breakfast is optional. Therefore, wearing pajamas is also optional.

 

[HomerJS]

If you don't like it, don't have one. Isn't that the standard we're supposed to accept? Except if it is, then the ultrasound/rape comparison goes right out the window. Ooops...

I appreciate the D's mucking about with my health care plan about as much as you appreciate what the R's are doing. Except the D's aren't giving ME a choice - and they're all about choice...depending on the issue.

Coming in 3...2...1...

State sponsored anal probes for men before being issued Viagra.

 

[sandorski]

Coming in 3...2...1...

State sponsored anal probes for men before being issued Viagra.

I like how providing a system where everyone has access to Healthcare is called "mucking" with Healthcare, but actually mandating unnecessary medical procedures is not.

 

[nehalem256]

I like how providing a system where everyone has access to Healthcare is called "mucking" with Healthcare, but actually mandating unnecessary medical procedures is not.

Actually they are merely mandating an unnecessary medical procedure before an unnecessary medical procedure takes place.

 

[Jhhnn]

Actually they are merely mandating an unnecessary medical procedure before an unnecessary medical procedure takes place.

Obvious trolling from one who advocates forced abortions....

 

[nehalem256]

Obvious trolling from one who advocates forced abortions....

What part of what I said is trolling?

No matter what you feel about the legality of abortion it is a point of fact that the vast majority of abortions are no more medically necessary than a boob job.

 

[Jhhnn]

What part of what I said is trolling?

No matter what you feel about the legality of abortion it is a point of fact that the vast majority of abortions are no more medically necessary than a boob job.

Oh, so now it's "medically necessary"?

When caught in contradiction, just redefine to suit your present purposes, huh?

Previously, you've offered that forced abortion is basically necessary to save the Republic & preserve the world as we know it... which obviously doesn't matter now... any chance to wave your flag of misogyny justifies any position to do it from...

 

[Jeff7]

State governments are smaller governments though

Ok....and county governments are also smaller. Oh well?

And you can still have intrusive and bloated state governments.

 

[Atreus21]

I'd like a show of hands of who read the article in the OP.

Though the bill doesn't specify a transvaginal ultrasound, in which a several-inch-long probe is inserted through the birth canal to the woman's uterus, that's exactly what Indiana would be requiring because of the early age of the fetus, said Dr. John Stutsman, an Indiana University School of Medicine professor and obstetrician-gynecologist.

The bill doesn't specify the use of a transvaginal ultrasound. It's the most vivid ultrasound possible when the child is young enough to be killed by RU-486. Doctors are under no obligation to perform transvaginal ultrasounds.

Ultrasounds are not considered medically necessary for first-trimester abortions, the Guttmacher Institute says.

"The requirements appear to be a veiled attempt to personify the fetus and dissuade a woman from obtaining an abortion,"

What a crime.