Republican? Check. Affair? Check. (Souder to resign)

SunnyD

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Is it a prerequisite to have an affair if you're a republican politician or something?

(FYI: I have no political agenda or party affiliation, I just find it hysterically funny that it's all repubs banging people other than their wives, especially since repubs are always campaigning on a supposed "moral high ground")

Indiana Republican Rep. Mark Souder acknowledged an affair with a staffer Tuesday and unexpectedly announced his resignation, giving Democrats a chance at capturing what many had thought was a safe Republican seat.

The eight-term congressman apologized for his actions but provided no details.

"I am so ashamed to have hurt the ones I love," he said at a news conference in Fort Wayne. "I am sorry to have let so many friends down, people who have worked so hard for me."

His resignation is effective Friday.

I'd have posted this in OT just for the lulz, but unfortunately it belongs here.
 

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SunnyD

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So what you are saying is, it's ok for Democrats to be cheaters and crooks because they have no morals to begin with. K. :hmm:
Not remotely. I don't think any politician has morals. I just find it funny that as vocal as repubs are about it, they're the ones that seem to invariably end up caught with their pants down, so to speak.
 

kranky

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especially since repubs are always campaigning on a supposed "moral high ground")

I hear this a lot, but I don't think I have seen any examples. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what people mean when they say this. Is it being anti-abortion? Or what?
 

Vette73

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Hey, at least it was a woman this time. :awe: Oh wait it did not say female did it. :hmm:

Not that big of news. I am sure there are a lot more cheaters in DC, he just got caught. I am guessing someone tried to blackmail him and he outed himself.
 
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PokerGuy

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Is there anything in particular to suggest that he ran campaigns on the "moral high ground", or is that just pure partisan hackery?
 

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I hear this a lot, but I don't think I have seen any examples. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what people mean when they say this. Is it being anti-abortion? Or what?

You ever heard the expression "family values"? Which party has that been a slogan of?

- wolf
 

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Is there anything in particular to suggest that he ran campaigns on the "moral high ground", or is that just pure partisan hackery?

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Souder#Influence_of_religion:

"Influence of religion

In 2004, Souder said in an interview that "the closer to the clearness of the Bible, the less ability I should have to compromise. So I view, on abortion, there's really not much room to compromise." He said, regarding Israel, "[T]he bottom line is, they're God's chosen people. He's going to stand with them. The question is: Are we going to stand with them?"[15] Souder also applied for non-combatant status during the Vietnam War on religious grounds. His draft number was never called."
 

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(FYI: I have no political agenda or party affiliation, I just find it hysterically funny that it's all repubs banging people other than their wives, especially since repubs are always campaigning on a supposed "moral high ground")

I did not know John Edwards was a republican.
 

nageov3t

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You ever heard the expression "family values"? Which party has that been a slogan of?

- wolf
has any modern politician ever not run on family values?

they don't take the wife and kids out on the campaign trail and trot that out at rallies and speeches for their health.
 

PokerGuy

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He is regarded as a staunch advocate of abstinence education and family values.[5][6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Souder


Only "partisan hackery" are your post.

Abstinence education has nothing to do with his behavior as an adult, he's advocating it to each young children. IE, irrelevant. I still haven't seen anything to show him campaigning on a family values platform (the wiki article has no citation to support that claim), but if he did, it makes him a typical hypocrite politician.
 

Vette73

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Haha... I just saw this...

"There's your punchline -- "congressman shot pro-abstinence video with his mistress." Just a huge embarrassment."

Yep he shot a video with his mistress about abstinence. The video has been removed. I am sure it will pop up again. The video that was removed was put up by his office.

Here it is...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSoFg_ShS0U

Damm for a old fat white guy he did pretty good. :)
 
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WHAMPOM

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So what you are saying is, it's ok for Democrats to be cheaters and crooks because they have no morals to begin with. K. :hmm:

AW, your holier then thou "Your are all sinners, but we are not" hypocrisy chimes right in there with all the other moral spinning Republicans.
 

Siddhartha

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I hear this a lot, but I don't think I have seen any examples. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what people mean when they say this. Is it being anti-abortion? Or what?

It goes back to when the GOP impeached Mr Clinton and were quite vocal about the quality of his morals.
 

ayabe

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Abstinence education has nothing to do with his behavior as an adult, he's advocating it to each young children. IE, irrelevant. I still haven't seen anything to show him campaigning on a family values platform (the wiki article has no citation to support that claim), but if he did, it makes him a typical hypocrite politician.

“The ideas we advocate are still just and right,” said Souder, a fierce social conservative who has said in the past that he is “most defined by the fact that I’m an evangelical Christian.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/...m:+Washington+Wire)&utm_content=Google+Reader

By all means keep digging in.
 

PokerGuy

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“The ideas we advocate are still just and right,” said Souder, a fierce social conservative who has said in the past that he is “most defined by the fact that I’m an evangelical Christian.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/...m:+Washington+Wire)&utm_content=Google+Reader

By all means keep digging in.

Not digging anything. He's actually forthright and honest about it. He takes responsibility for his action, isn't making excuses, and he's absolutely correct that the ideas he advocated are just and right. Just because he failed to live by those ideals doesn't mean the ideals are not right, it means he's a typical politician.
 

woolfe9999

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has any modern politician ever not run on family values?

they don't take the wife and kids out on the campaign trail and trot that out at rallies and speeches for their health.

I think you're bring overly cute here, pretending that the two parties have postured themselves identically as a matter of ideological presentation over time. Such has not been the case. For example, on the issue of fiscal conservation, both parties have acknowledged its importance in their rhetoric, but the republication party has emphasized it much more strongly. The same goes with "family values," a republican created campaign slogan meant to appeal to the party's evangelical base.

- wolf
 

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If Bill can get blowjobs in the oval office I don't see how this impacts this guys ability to perform his job. But he's stepping down, as Republicans usually do. I guess he should have probably taken bribes and stuffed the cash in a freezer and he would have been fine. Republicans seem to have 'ethical' lapses while Democrats seemingly have illegal ones. The difference is one party actually holds themselves accountable and asks them to resign the other puts them into Obama cabinet positions.