Removing powersteering pump belt-->cause damage to rack? Yea or Nay?

[CrackRabbit]

How about you just admit that you like to jump on the failwagon. It's not that I'm saying anything that's incorrect, you'll find something to disagree with, seriously. I could say, don't drink drano and then I'll hear all these counter arguments about how much of a fool I am and how drano in small quantities is perfectly safe.

Drain-o is good for digestion. You should drink an entire bottle.

And I think Meghan54 pointed out all of your stupidity and logical fallacies a few posts up.
I'll leave you alone now and go back to working on my device to punch people through the internet.

 

[BUTCH1]

As in mechanical linkage from the motor with no hydraulics? Didn't know they made them like that, that's kinda cool.

It saves gas, I get 25MPG with a 3.5 V6. Only thing is there is very little road feel transmitted back to the driver but I think that's the case in most systems like mine.

 

[DivideBYZero]

hmm interesting. Are you sure that's true in all cases? Would the service manual show this? How does having helical cut gears affect the steering rack if the assist isn't on? Rear differential of RWD cars have helical cut gears and those aren't power assisted and can move forwards and backwards.

Why, in fucks name, are you comparing a RWD differential with a power steering rack?

"Hay gies, I'm just wondering if a sack of manic Chickens is similar to a Horse on crack. Ideas?"

:hmm:

 

[fleabag]

Why, in fucks name, are you comparing a RWD differential with a power steering rack?

"Hay gies, I'm just wondering if a sack of manic Chickens is similar to a Horse on crack. Ideas?"

:hmm:

Might be... want to create a poll? I'm comparing a RWD differential because they use helical cut gears.. A transmission also uses helical cut gears as well except for the reverse gear on Honda civics which are straight cut and therefore explains why they make a "winding" noise when going in reverse.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Might be... want to create a poll? I'm comparing a RWD differential because they use helical cut gears.. A transmission also uses helical cut gears as well except for the reverse gear on Honda civics which are straight cut and therefore explains why they make a "winding" noise when going in reverse.

So what? The type of gear cut means nothing. Application is everything.

You cannot compare the gearing in a steering rack to a differential or anything else past basics such as the type. Assuming that the type of gear used in a steering rack means you can apply the same loads to it as in a differential shows you lack critical knowledge of engineering fundamentals. And physics. And life.

 

[fleabag]

So what? The type of gear cut means nothing. Application is everything.

You cannot compare the gearing in a steering rack to a differential or anything else past basics such as the type. Assuming that the type of gear used in a steering rack means you can apply the same loads to it as in a differential shows you lack critical knowledge of engineering fundamentals. And physics. And life.

Don't attack me.. I'm not the one who said that the manual rack has cut gears while the powered rack has helical gears..

 

[StageLeft]

How about you just admit that you like to jump on the failwagon. It's not that I'm saying anything that's incorrect, you'll find something to disagree with, seriously. I could say, don't drink drano and then I'll hear all these counter arguments about how much of a fool I am and how drano in small quantities is perfectly safe.

More accurately, if drinking drano saved you half a MPG I'm sure you'd ask how dangerous it really is. We'd tell you it's bad for you, you'd argue how it's not bad for you, but in the end you'd still not do anything because, despite all these threads, you've never actually done _anything_ to a car beyond putting gas in the tank. You are literally petrified of even opening up the hood let alone breaking out the socket set.

 

[grrl]

I think Meghan54 provided a small sampling of your stupidity and logical fallacies a few posts up.

Fixed

 

[Meghan54]

but in the end you'd still not do anything because, despite all these threads, you've never actually done _anything_ to a car beyond putting gas in the tank. You are literally petrified of even opening up the hood let alone breaking out the socket set.

qft!

 

[halik]

hmm interesting. Are you sure that's true in all cases? Would the service manual show this? How does having helical cut gears affect the steering rack if the assist isn't on? Rear differential of RWD cars have helical cut gears and those aren't power assisted and can move forwards and backwards.

Actually doing more googling, it looks like honda has helical gears for all of it, the manual is just beefier (less teeth) and the angle on the rack isn't as aggressive.

http://www.jdmuniverse.com/forums/h...uick-steering-ratio-equivalent-ek-owners.html

I've got the original statement backwards though, PS *racks* (not pinions) have helical/angled gears on the rack, manual are straight. This impacts how much load you can put on the rack in the direction of the rotation. Race cars use all straight cut gears in the gearboxes for that reason http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmJH84FnQa8&feature=related

 

[fleabag]

Actually doing more googling, it looks like honda has helical gears for all of it, the manual is just beefier (less teeth) and the angle on the rack isn't as aggressive.

http://www.jdmuniverse.com/forums/h...uick-steering-ratio-equivalent-ek-owners.html

I've got the original statement backwards though, PS *racks* (not pinions) have helical/angled gears on the rack, manual are straight. This impacts how much load you can put on the rack in the direction of the rotation. Race cars use all straight cut gears in the gearboxes for that reason http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmJH84FnQa8&feature=related

It's interesting that you mention that because generally speaking, aren't P/S racks BAD because one can destroy the rack with the assist the pump gives? This can be especially problematic when one is "crawling" because while you do intend to turn the wheels and can't because there is something blocking them from being turned, the pump allows you to add too much force and consequently can end up breaking something.

 

[StageLeft]

It's interesting that you mention that because generally speaking, aren't P/S racks BAD because one can destroy the rack with the assist the pump gives? This can be especially problematic when one is "crawling" because while you do intend to turn the wheels and can't because there is something blocking them from being turned, the pump allows you to add too much force and consequently can end up breaking something.

Step 1: how to change your oil:

http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Oil-in-Your-Car

 

[CrackRabbit]

Step 1: how to change your oil:

http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Oil-in-Your-Car

I'm not sure Skoorb, that might be to advanced for him.

 

[fleabag]

I'm not sure Skoorb, that might be to advanced for him.

Way way too advanced... Didn't you hear? It's easier to do an engine swap than to change the oil in the engine. Why else would people go to great lengths to swapping their engines unless changing their oil wasn't so difficult.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Way way too advanced... Didn't you hear? It's easier to do an engine swap than to change the oil in the engine. Why else would people go to great lengths to swapping their engines unless changing their oil wasn't so difficult.

You're right I change the engine in my Focus every 5000 miles on the dot.
Only takes 30 minutes!

 

[fleabag]

You're right I change the engine in my Focus every 5000 miles on the dot.
Only takes 30 minutes!

So what do you do, pour that chit in the gas tank or do you just remove some spark plugs and pour about a quart down each cylinder? I mean after all, you don't really have to change the oil, just add as your car does the changing for you by burning it off...

 

[PlasmaBomb]

was this at lake tahoe in the winter?

lol

 

[halik]

It's interesting that you mention that because generally speaking, aren't P/S racks BAD because one can destroy the rack with the assist the pump gives? This can be especially problematic when one is "crawling" because while you do intend to turn the wheels and can't because there is something blocking them from being turned, the pump allows you to add too much force and consequently can end up breaking something.

The assistance isn't applied via the rack and pinion:

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Drain-o is good for digestion. You should drink an entire bottle.

And I think Meghan54 pointed out all of your stupidity and logical fallacies a few posts up.
I'll leave you alone now and go back to working on my device to punch people through the internet.

I also heard that it improves your mpg if you add a pint to a tank full of gas.

 

[Bignate603]

I'm pretty sure crashing because you're botched modification made it so you couldn't steer well will have an adverse effect on the power steering rack so I had to vote yes.