Religion

[Sea Moose]

Some may have been beaten in their early childhood with a green vegetable - broccoli, for example.






is there somthing you want to tell us

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Some may have been beaten in their early childhood with a green vegetable - broccoli, for example.

is there somthing you want to tell us

Yes.

Start using a fucking spell checker or I will beat you senseless with a bunch of asparagus. Seriously. You'll be taken more seriously.

 

[Sea Moose]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Some may have been beaten in their early childhood with a green vegetable - broccoli, for example.

is there somthing you want to tell us

Yes.

Start using a fucking spell checker or I will beat you senseless with a bunch of asparagus. Seriously. You'll be taken more seriously.

haha sorry i will try to keep an eye on my crappy spelling. I would like the asparagus for my giant gourami. He would find it delicious

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Some may have been beaten in their early childhood with a green vegetable - broccoli, for example.

is there somthing you want to tell us

Yes.

Start using a fucking spell checker or I will beat you senseless with a bunch of asparagus. Seriously. You'll be taken more seriously.

haha sorry i will try to keep an eye on my crappy spelling. I would like the asparagus for my giant gourami. He would find it delicious

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Colisa_lalia.jpg

Indeed beautiful for a fresh water fish.

 

[Sea Moose]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Some may have been beaten in their early childhood with a green vegetable - broccoli, for example.

is there somthing you want to tell us

Yes.

Start using a fucking spell checker or I will beat you senseless with a bunch of asparagus. Seriously. You'll be taken more seriously.

haha sorry i will try to keep an eye on my crappy spelling. I would like the asparagus for my giant gourami. He would find it delicious

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Colisa_lalia.jpg

Indeed beautiful for a fresh water fish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Giant.gourami.arp.jpg <--- that is a giant gourami

 

[SlickSnake]

Religion is obviously how most simple minded people choose to explain everything they can't otherwise explain through experience or education.

And there is also a direct correlation to how uneducated you are, and thus how much you will then believe in a religion and God or Gods to explain it all.

That being said, it also does not necessarily mean there is not a God or Gods and some sort of religious mythology or methodology controlling our lives to some degree.

I just think prepackaged canned religions only offer bits and pieces of truth, and and it takes an unusual human being with above average insight to be able to put all the pieces together again into something that might just be close to being accurate, religiously speaking.

 

[nerp]

I am a transcendalist. I think the only spirituality that makes sense is the one that compells me to try to expand my atoms into the surrounding woods.

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: nerp
I am a transcendalist. I think the only spirituality that makes sense is the one that compells me to try to expand my atoms into the surrounding woods.

Does that include chipboard?

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: nerp
I am a transcendalist. I think the only spirituality that makes sense is the one that compells me to try to expand my atoms into the surrounding woods.

I'm a toiletist myself, and I'm going to use my spirituality to compel me to try to expand my atoms into the surrounding water supply.

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: SlickSnake

Originally posted by: nerp
I am a transcendalist. I think the only spirituality that makes sense is the one that compells me to try to expand my atoms into the surrounding woods.

I'm a toiletist myself, and I'm going to use my spirituality to compel me to try to expand my atoms into the surrounding water supply.

ROFL.

:beer:

 

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: guyver01
how many religion threads do we need?

one is too many.

 

[MovingTarget]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: MovingTarget

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: MovingTarget

Originally posted by: Sea Moose

Originally posted by: MovingTarget

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
wasnt the bible written 500 years after jeebus died?

How much do you and i know what happened 500 years ago?.....

How can the bible therefore be accurate?

FAIL. No one person or group sat down and simply wrote the bible. They were written individually by many different Christian communities, at varying times after Jesus died. Many of these never even made it into what we now know as 'the Bible', but were nonetheless candidates for inclusion into Christian cannon. This part is pretty well backed up by historical evidence, including the very same councils that were called to do just that. As per historical accuracy, that part can be debated, but we do still know quite a lot from other sources, namely the official Roman/Hebrew records...

So by your logic it would be completly inaccurate! And what the hell is a christian cannon? IS that what the chior boys get to see.

Religion is the source of all evil in the world, watch the evening news and you will find evidence of this.

Really? Is that all you've got? Perhaps you don't understand basic historical methodology. By your 'logic', anything that happened before those still alive today is completely unknowable. The information I cited is based in this methodology. There are a myriad of primary and secondary sources that back this up in addition to the traditions that have been passed down since these times in history.

You bring up choir boys, but the only thing you succeed in proving with that snippet is your own ignorance. No, Christian cannon is not a trouser snake nor is it in any way related to the holy hand grenade. :roll:

The source of all evil in the world? Where do you even get a concept of evil? Thats right, culture, as originally put forth with religion. But lets just ignore that. What are the source of evil in the world? Lets see....greed, selfishness, hatred, ignorance, jealousy, etc. etc. etc. - things that religion pretty strongly advocates against.

Ok ....

You realise that the nation that wins the war... writes the text books... What i mean is, that imagine if the nazis won the war, how would they write the history books? Same goes with all history. History books get rewritten all the time, as new evidence surfaces etc. And in jeebuses time they usually passed on stories verbally as not many people could write in those days. And we have all have heard of the concept of chinese whispers.

As for trouser snakes... my year 8 english teacher who was also the local churches priest was charged tried and sent to prison for fucking little boys. (NOT ME, so dont bother with the jokes)

I like the underlying message that religion puts out.. be kind to one another etc i like some of the stories of the old testament, ie the good samaratan. That is one story that stuck in my mind during religion class. But then again... i can be kind to others without religion. Example: One of the guys in my class failed his electronics exam i gave my lunch time to get his study method fixed. I didnt need to give money to church for that.

Unfortunatley its the people that use the church for their own personal gain that makes me fucking hate religion.

Well, although you do make a good point about the victors writing history, that doesn't always apply as it isn't the correct analogy to use. In this case, we have the actual records from the council meetings, in addition to numerous writings of those in attendance including those who had views that did not get adopted in the councils. Besides, these guys were all Romans during a time when the empire was still quite strong. Literacy was a non-issue among the attendees, and amongst the many theologians of the time.

As far as the rest of your post, I can agree with you on points. You don't necessarily need religion to be moral, but that is a matter of philosophy and not specifically religion. There are those within organized religion that hide behind that veil to do unspeakable things, but that is no reason to dismiss the underlying tenants of any religion...that anger should be rightfully directed not on religion itself, but on those that committed those acts and/or allowed them to happen through inaction (usually by means of beurocracy).

Being kind to others is not philosophy, its common fucking sense. ( there is not enough of it) I stick to my point that religion is the root of all evil. More blood has been spilt over religion than anything else.





(debate is good)

Not necessarily. Common sense is based on a set of cultural norms and/or basic set of axioms about human behavior which may or may not exist. It postulates a philosophy of some sort. If you are a hedonist for example, or follow certain utilitarian streaks, then 'common sense' may not dictate kindness as an overriding principle or imparitive in everyday life.

For your other point, blood may be spilt in the name of religion, but I don't think in most, if all cases, that violence can be attributed to a religion's central tenants. It seems to be attributed to those hiding behind it with motives of gaining power/spreading fear, which is decidedly against religion in the vast majority of its forms.

 

[TridenT]

I voted yes even though I went through this and I became a no.

 

[MovingTarget]

Originally posted by: allisolm

Originally posted by: MovingTarget

Many of these never even made it into what we now know as 'the Bible', but were nonetheless candidates for inclusion into Christian cannon.

No, Christian cannon is not a trouser snake nor is it in any way related to the holy hand grenade. :roll:

There are those within organized religion that hide behind that veil to do unspeakable things, but that is no reason to dismiss the underlying tenants of any religion...that anger should be rightfully directed not on religion itself, but on those that committed those acts and/or allowed them to happen through inaction (usually by means of beurocracy).

For the love of all that's holy, if you're going to talk about religion at least learn the correct terms.

A cannon is a large gun. A canon is a fundanental principle.
A tenant is an occupant, especially a renter. A tenet is, much like a canon, a fundamental belief.

Meh, it was late/early and I was trying to stay up much longer than usual. Cut me some slack on the spelling.

 

[MovingTarget]

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
I voted yes even though I went through this and I became a no.

Care to explain why you came to that conclusion? (This could make for good debate)

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: MovingTarget

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
I voted yes even though I went through this and I became a no.

Care to explain why you came to that conclusion? (This could make for good debate)

I'm interested also. wtf was the poll asking? I think it was entirely nonsensical and open to just about any interpretation in the universe.

 

[Lean L]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: MovingTarget

Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
I voted yes even though I went through this and I became a no.

Care to explain why you came to that conclusion? (This could make for good debate)

I'm interested also. wtf was the poll asking? I think it was entirely nonsensical and open to just about any interpretation in the universe.

Did anyone get "I'm ready" yet? it actually goes like this "I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready". any guesses?