Not to nit pick, but it reads like a 15 year old wrote that. Less drugs and more complete thoughts will do well! Fundies? Why don't you be more specific and say your rant is about christian fundamentalists?
Anyway I think you discount the the amazing power that belief in something brings out in people. Religion is one of the main driving reasons half of the planet wake up everyday and live.
I understand that in your idealistic utopia religion does not exist and everyone is a scientist, but comon' that's just not realistic, or any fun.
Anyway I think you discount the the amazing power that belief in something brings out in people. Religion is one of the main driving reasons half of the planet wake up everyday and live.
I understand that in your idealistic utopia religion does not exist and everyone is a scientist, but comon' that's just not realistic, or any fun.
Its not written to be published or anything, i spent about 35 minutes on it.
I agree that religion does some good in the world, but it also does a tremendous amount of bad. From impeding science, to causing endless conflict, to giving false hope.
And when i said fundies i mean any religious fundie. Catholic, Protestant, Mormon, Jewish, Islamic, whatever.
It isn't just fundies who want a ban on human cloning...
There are large ethical reasons for it. Why should a life be brought into this world only to be killed and harvested for it's organs?
The idea is to advance cloning to a point where organs can be grown without a donor. An extended study of human cloning would aid in that research.
How much do you know about creating new organs by artificial means to be able to make that statement?
I dont, are you going to argue that there is no study of the human cloning process that could further mankind? Espeically with things like manipulating genetics?
Now you're introducing another issue to discuss.
Show me data which shows how beneficial human cloning could be to mankind, especially over other current options.
Not being able to back up your statements is just as bad or worse than those fundies you seem to rant against.
How do you know it's false hope? Do you have imperical proof that a god does not exist? If you do please come out with it, the worlds been waiting for it.
As for fundamentalists impeding scientific research, they arn't the only ones. The issue of cloning is touchy and many people are opposed to it for very simplistic ethical reasons.
Some of your rant doesn't think very deep:
Yes, let's make everyone near perfect and in the top 1 percentile! So let's take control of our own genetics and not let nature run it's course! Sounds a lot like playing god to me.
As for genetic therapy, why should we fight so hard to change the natural path of things?
World hunger is not the United States problem to solve. Someday granola crunching hippies will understand that.
I'm no religious man, but I'm no athiest either.
A religion thread, and more specifically a religion bashing thread is understood to be a trollish post that always has a negative outcome.
The "correct" way to set up my volume is however the hell I want, how about you just get rid of the sh|tty music?
Like religion is the only thing stopping science...ever heard of human morales?
Pretty stupid, considering you've probably never followed a religion
Pretty stupid, considering you've probably never followed a religion
Well. It certainly is a "rant".
Religions have two components. Outer tradition which is constructed and developed by communities. And inner faith which is personal and tempered by one's thoughts and experiences.
Your rant is weak as an "argument" because you merely mock rituals from religious tradition and fail to acknowledge the meaning faith gives to people and the philanthropy that results from the meaning they find in their lives.
All of the things you note as being held back by religion are controversial in nature. Even if there were no religions there would still be moral dilemmas, new ideas or technology that people are inherently uncomfortable with. People can be frightened as is of the new possibilities in this world. Taking away religion isn't going to change that.
And you must be joking about the military. Self-preservation, greed, taking from others, keeping what is ours, spreading our ideals about government and economies, etc. I'm sure people could name many such reasons why so much is spent on the military. Those are why armies exist. You must be kidding yourself if you really believe it came down to religion.
Religions have two components. Outer tradition which is constructed and developed by communities. And inner faith which is personal and tempered by one's thoughts and experiences.
Your rant is weak as an "argument" because you merely mock rituals from religious tradition and fail to acknowledge the meaning faith gives to people and the philanthropy that results from the meaning they find in their lives.
All of the things you note as being held back by religion are controversial in nature. Even if there were no religions there would still be moral dilemmas, new ideas or technology that people are inherently uncomfortable with. People can be frightened as is of the new possibilities in this world. Taking away religion isn't going to change that.
And you must be joking about the military. Self-preservation, greed, taking from others, keeping what is ours, spreading our ideals about government and economies, etc. I'm sure people could name many such reasons why so much is spent on the military. Those are why armies exist. You must be kidding yourself if you really believe it came down to religion.
You do have those that contend the morals that we have today are only due to religions being forced upon us.
Then there are others that think religions take their sets of rules and morals from the general populace during the time of it's founding.
Bingo. There is a very large distinction between killing for a religion based on it's actual foundations, and people masquerading their agenda's behind a religion, or saying it's in the name of.
Do you have a problem with the institution of religion or do you have a problem with the fact people believe in God?
Actually now that I think about it, atheism has killed more people than religion. Let's see, communist Russia, communist China, communist North Korea, communist Cuba...
Don't blame a religion for the faults of man.
Don't blame a religion for the faults of man.
Well, considering that one of the biggest flaws that i see in any religion other than christianity is the fact that you supposedly earn your way into heaven, and life is a balance sheet, and as long as you do more good than bad you get into heaven. Contrast this with Christianity, which says that it's impossible for a human to be good enough to get into heaven and that the only way to get in is to ask for God's forgiveness, made possible by Jesus' death on the cross. Which would make more sense, a God that says "Well you need to just try and be good and hope you're good enough" or a God that says "There is no way you can be good enough, because having any sin at all makes it impossible, but i'll forgive your sins if you ask"
a lot of things > blogger > msot things > myspace blogs 
Hell, I have a blogger blog and have come to terms with it
Hell, I have a blogger blog and have come to terms with it
Im not arguing against morals, im arguing against furthering humanity because THE CHURCH says so. You can have your own beliefs, but beliefs based on an old and obviously outdated system created by people with motives isn't the way to go.
Explain how the moral values of christianity are "outdated", and how do you know it was created by a group with an agenda?
looks like this guy got pwned pretty bad.
we should have an oldsmoboat's law for stuff on myspace.
we should have an oldsmoboat's law for stuff on myspace.
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