Religion aside; Logically, what happens after death?

[TheSlamma]

Can't help it. I find this state of affairs to be completely unacceptable. I will never be ok with it. I don't think about it every minute of every day, but when I do reflect on it I think it is with an amount of horror that is entirely appropriate.

Almost sounds like you haven't really lived anyway by these responses.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Almost sounds like you haven't really lived anyway by these responses.

I don't understand your post. Life is good. That's why I want to keep living it. That's why I'm terrified of having it end.

 

[homebrew2ny]

You are incorrect and here is why.

There is no reason to suspect or believe anything metaphysical....

Not only do I disagree with you but nearly every single civilization or populous of people from the beginning of recorded history, and perhaps even beyond, all had an inherent notion of a after life. And that is not even taking in to the account of any religious or philosophical persuasions that have come about. That in and of itself is reason to 'suspect'. As far as belief, that I leave up to the individual. If you chose to believe or not, I am ok with that, but to outright discard any reason to suspect is just foolish in my humble opinion.

Either way, you need to live (and die) with yourself so what you chose to believe is just fine with me. I can tell you this though, if I were arrogant enough to think that every civilizations of people to ever come before me were just stupid or crazy, and have the audacity to discard any and all spiritual reasoning without benefit, then I too would perhaps take your stance.

 

[MongGrel]

Not only do I disagree with you but nearly every single civilization or populous of people from the beginning of recorded history, and perhaps even beyond, all had an inherent notion of a after life. And that is not even taking in to the account of any religious or philosophical persuasions that have come about. That in and of itself is reason to 'suspect'. As far as belief, that I leave up to the individual. If you chose to believe or not, I am ok with that, but to outright discard any reason to suspect is just foolish in my humble opinion.

Either way, you need to live (and die) with yourself so what you chose to believe is just fine with me. I can tell you this though, if I were arrogant enough to think that every civilizations of people to ever come before me were just stupid or crazy, and have the audacity to discard any and all spiritual reasoning without benefit, then I too would perhaps take your stance.

+1

 

[KeithTalent]

I think there is a difference between arrogance and just not believing something due to lack of evidence. If there were anything tangible to indicate there was such a thing as an afterlife, then I would have no problem believing in one, but believing in one just because a lot of people are scared of dying makes no sense to me.

Knock yourself out if you want to believe in it, no skin off my ass, I just find it all rather silly.

KT

 

[homebrew2ny]

I think there is a difference between arrogance and just not believing something due to lack of evidence. If there were anything tangible to indicate there was such a thing as an afterlife, then I would have no problem believing in one, but believing in one just because a lot of people are scared of dying makes no sense to me.

Knock yourself out if you want to believe in it, no skin off my ass, I just find it all rather silly.

KT

What is silly is you know so little you actually think (or at the very least spew) that 'believing' is only done so by those who are scared of dying. Not only is that 'silly' but offers a glimpse of how shallow your opinion on this matter really is. Also, you are misconstruing evidence with proof. Evidence can take the form of written and/or oral personal experiences (IE: first hand experiences) to which there is plenty of stroon through out history. Proof however is not so simple to those who bow to the alter of science.

As a side note, this is coming from someone who questions religion and all that can not be 'proven'. But I have at least learned that one should never throw away the baby with the bath water. Anything is possible, to say 'No' definitively to something you (or I) have very little understanding of just seems 'silly' to me.

EDIT: I just re-read my post here and it seems to come off pretty harsh, please do not read it that way. I do not mean to disrespect anyone's opinions, all are welcome.

 

[drquest]

Well the physical condition of dying of old age, as we know it will most likely be "cured" in the future. There's organisms and animals that are doing it right now. It's a matter of not if, but when this will happen.

This isn't a wonderful read on it, but does have some interesting info if you are so inclined to check it out.

http://qz.com/193266/

 

[IronWing]

about three days later I pop out of the ground and fuck your moms.

rinse and repeat.

shit happens.

As good an description of an afterlife as any. :biggrin:

 

[Leros]

The electronics in your brain that make up your consciousness stop working. At that point, your being and your entity stop existing.

That's it. It's like turning off a computer. If there was an AI running on the computer, it ceases to exist when the computer is turned off.

 

[Jeff7]

Not only do I disagree with you but nearly every single civilization or populous of people from the beginning of recorded history, and perhaps even beyond, all had an inherent notion of a after life. And that is not even taking in to the account of any religious or philosophical persuasions that have come about. That in and of itself is reason to 'suspect'. As far as belief, that I leave up to the individual. If you chose to believe or not, I am ok with that, but to outright discard any reason to suspect is just foolish in my humble opinion.
...

In engineering parlance, that sort of thing could also be called "design flaw" or "a systemic problem" - just another one of our behavioral anomalies, an artifact of our wacky biology.

 

[OverVolt]

Thats why you live life to the fullest, Carpe Diem style. You enjoy the small things in life, and you leave some type of legacy (contribution to society, kids, etc.) so that you leave some small impact on the world after you are gone. Good luck LGBT's I guess.

 

[OverVolt]

Well the physical condition of dying of old age, as we know it will most likely be "cured" in the future. There's organisms and animals that are doing it right now. It's a matter of not if, but when this will happen.

This isn't a wonderful read on it, but does have some interesting info if you are so inclined to check it out.

http://qz.com/193266/

You can't honestly believe that, right? Odds are you live to around 72. Sorry to tell you. Its just life.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

You move on....either into the abyss or the next state of consciousness.

 

[z1ggy]

I'd assume it's like being knocked out for surgery. You're totally unaware of anything. Your consciousness is not happening, therefor as far as you are concerned you don't exist.

It must be weird dying suddenly with no warning. Going from alive and aware to ... nothingness.

 

[drquest]

You can't honestly believe that, right? Odds are you live to around 72. Sorry to tell you. Its just life.

It's life today, but think what terminal illnesses from the past aren't terminal anymore because of medical treatments and medicines.

Yes I do think aging will be slowed down, possibly stopped, and potentially reversed. Life is biological, not magical and with the right nudge can be changed.

 

[JackBurton]

What is silly is you know so little you actually think (or at the very least spew) that 'believing' is only done so by those who are scared of dying. Not only is that 'silly' but offers a glimpse of how shallow your opinion on this matter really is. Also, you are misconstruing evidence with proof. Evidence can take the form of written and/or oral personal experiences (IE: first hand experiences) to which there is plenty of stroon through out history. Proof however is not so simple to those who bow to the alter of science.

As a side note, this is coming from someone who questions religion and all that can not be 'proven'. But I have at least learned that one should never throw away the baby with the bath water. Anything is possible, to say 'No' definitively to something you (or I) have very little understanding of just seems 'silly' to me.

EDIT: I just re-read my post here and it seems to come off pretty harsh, please do not read it that way. I do not mean to disrespect anyone's opinions, all are welcome.

That's simply not true.

 

[IronWing]

It's life today, but think what terminal illnesses from the past aren't terminal anymore because of medical treatments and medicines.

Yes I do think aging will be slowed down, possibly stopped, and potentially reversed. Life is biological, not magical and with the right nudge can be changed.

It takes more than a nudge. One would have to find a way to prevent or repair DNA transcription errors and DNA damage in every cell.

 

[gorcorps]

your heart stops beating

 

[master_shake_]

i don't know about you guys but, im getting frozen, in case they find a cure for death

 

[IronWing]

your heart stops beating

Your post triggered a rather annoying reaction. Sonny and Cher's The Beat Goes On is now pounding rhythm to my brain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umrp1tIBY8Q

 

[SlitheryDee]

It takes more than a nudge. One would have to find a way to prevent or repair DNA transcription errors and DNA damage in every cell.

I think this is one of those things we can file under "eventually". People will work on it until they get it. It will be a long time before it happens though. That's ok, because we're nowhere near the ability to control the population like we'd have to after such an invention.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

there is no "afterlife" so you should spend as much munnie and ball as many chicks as possible while youre here.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

You go back and do it again. It's an endless loop.

Sorta. You're already doing it. Your identities are like the fingertips of a hand , spread wide and dipped into the waters of time. They're all wet at once, and they're all part of the same hand, even while their common source is dry.

 

[JManInPhoenix]

i don't know about you guys but, im getting frozen, in case they find a cure for death

Ted Williams head is frozen a couple of blocks from where I work

 

[Jeff7]

i don't know about you guys but, im getting frozen, in case they find a cure for death

And a cure for severe cellular damage caused by the crystallization of water.

It takes more than a nudge. One would have to find a way to prevent or repair DNA transcription errors and DNA damage in every cell.

What sucks about error-proofed DNA is that there's no chance for beneficial mutations.

Though by that time, maybe we'll also have figured out how to modify DNA directly, without going all Gattaca, or ending up doing a top-notch reenactment of Star Trek's Eugenics Wars.