Release the Krak... err FISA Memo!

[MomentsofSanity]

I think he educated his students alright.

That’s also a gross overestimation. The top program was 35K. Not everyone signed up for it. The lowest was something like $1500. I doubt a majority or even a large percentage signed up for the big one.

 

[Puffnstuff]

That’s also a gross overestimation. The top program was 35K. Not everyone signed up for it. The lowest was something like $1500. I doubt a majority or even a large percentage signed up for the big one.

Those are George's words but I understand where he's coming from. Trump wants to act all billy badass on everyone but wants you to forget about what he does.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Those are George's words but I understand where he's coming from. Trump wants to act all billy badass on everyone but wants you to forget about what he does.

Yeah words like his don’t help is all. Easy to dismiss an entire argument when pieces of it can be shown as wrong. There’s enough shit with Trump to not have to exaggerate or misrepresent.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yeah words like his don’t help is all. Easy to dismiss an entire argument when pieces of it can be shown as wrong. There’s enough shit with Trump to not have to exaggerate or misrepresent.

The truth matters, even more in the age of Trump.

 

[Jaskalas]

So let's get down to the crux of it.

• Was Russian propaganda, paid for by Clinton, brought forth as evidence before any FISA judge?
• And did the FBI and/or DOJ know, at the time, that the information was corrupt and/or falsified?

That's the heart of the criminal accusations, as raised by the partisan memo.
Is there any public counter evidence? The news articles I'm seeing are deflecting from the central questions by batting down side shows.

Grassley and Graham add damning new details.

• Was Russian propaganda, paid for by Clinton, brought forth as evidence before any FISA judge?
  Confirmed.

The Steele dossier was "the bulk" of evidence used in the FISA court, on multiple occasions. It's sources include the Russian Government.

• And did the FBI and/or DOJ know, at the time, that the information was corrupt and/or falsified?
  Confirmed.

The FBI and/or DOJ knew of bias, lies, and the sources involved, yet they continued to vouch for Mr. Steele in the FISA court.
In addition, close Clinton associates are now known to have been feeding Mr. Steele information.

Make of the evidence what you will.
In summary, Clinton got to buy a warrant for the opposition campaign, with assistance from Putin.
And Obama's FBI / DOJ appear to have been complicit in this act, to the point of committing numerous crimes to see it done.

 

[UberNeuman]

Grassley and Graham add damning new details.

• Was Russian propaganda, paid for by Clinton, brought forth as evidence before any FISA judge?
  Confirmed.

The Steele dossier was "the bulk" of evidence used in the FISA court, on multiple occasions. It's sources include the Russian Government.

• And did the FBI and/or DOJ know, at the time, that the information was corrupt and/or falsified?
  Confirmed.

The FBI and/or DOJ knew of bias, lies, and the sources involved, yet they continued to vouch for Mr. Steele in the FISA court.
In addition, close Clinton associates are now known to have been feeding Mr. Steele information.

Make of the evidence what you will.
In summary, Clinton got to buy a warrant for the opposition campaign, with assistance from Putin.
And Obama's FBI / DOJ appear to have been complicit in this act, to the point of committing numerous crimes to see it done.

Okay, Tobias.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Grassley and Graham add damning new details.

• Was Russian propaganda, paid for by Clinton, brought forth as evidence before any FISA judge?
  Confirmed.

The Steele dossier was "the bulk" of evidence used in the FISA court, on multiple occasions. It's sources include the Russian Government.

• And did the FBI and/or DOJ know, at the time, that the information was corrupt and/or falsified?
  Confirmed.

The FBI and/or DOJ knew of bias, lies, and the sources involved, yet they continued to vouch for Mr. Steele in the FISA court.
In addition, close Clinton associates are now known to have been feeding Mr. Steele information.

Make of the evidence what you will.
In summary, Clinton got to buy a warrant for the opposition campaign, with assistance from Putin.
And Obama's FBI / DOJ appear to have been complicit in this act, to the point of committing numerous crimes to see it done.

Vladi and the right wing propaganda machine (as in your cited sources here) love you to bits for doing their work for free.

Is it time for some more birtherism now?

 

[fskimospy]

Grassley and Graham add damning new details.

• Was Russian propaganda, paid for by Clinton, brought forth as evidence before any FISA judge?
  Confirmed.

The Steele dossier was "the bulk" of evidence used in the FISA court, on multiple occasions. It's sources include the Russian Government.

• And did the FBI and/or DOJ know, at the time, that the information was corrupt and/or falsified?
  Confirmed.

The FBI and/or DOJ knew of bias, lies, and the sources involved, yet they continued to vouch for Mr. Steele in the FISA court.
In addition, close Clinton associates are now known to have been feeding Mr. Steele information.

Make of the evidence what you will.
In summary, Clinton got to buy a warrant for the opposition campaign, with assistance from Putin.
And Obama's FBI / DOJ appear to have been complicit in this act, to the point of committing numerous crimes to see it done.

Dude, stop reading conservative media. It’s desttouing your mind.

 

[Jhhnn]

In summary, Clinton got to buy a warrant for the opposition campaign, with assistance from Putin.
And Obama's FBI / DOJ appear to have been complicit in this act, to the point of committing numerous crimes to see it done.

Expect the spin to get fantastic.

 

[Jhhnn]

In summary, Clinton got to buy a warrant for the opposition campaign, with assistance from Putin.
And Obama's FBI / DOJ appear to have been complicit in this act, to the point of committing numerous crimes to see it done.

Collusion between the evil Hillary and the FBI! Gotta get Hillary into it to get the rubes' minds right for the rest of it, I guess.

 

[umbrella39]

You just wait guys.... it's really the 4th maybe even the 5th memo that's going to be the heat-seeker!

Right to the heart. Just like Benghazi...

Do sheep really eat this shit up?

 

[Victorian Gray]

You just wait guys.... it's really the 4th maybe even the 5th memo that's going to be the heat-seeker!

Right to the heart. Just like Benghazi...

Do sheep really eat this shit up?

You read this forum. Your question has been answered.

 

[ivwshane]

Grassley and Graham add damning new details.

• Was Russian propaganda, paid for by Clinton, brought forth as evidence before any FISA judge?
  Confirmed.

The Steele dossier was "the bulk" of evidence used in the FISA court, on multiple occasions. It's sources include the Russian Government.

• And did the FBI and/or DOJ know, at the time, that the information was corrupt and/or falsified?
  Confirmed.

The FBI and/or DOJ knew of bias, lies, and the sources involved, yet they continued to vouch for Mr. Steele in the FISA court.
In addition, close Clinton associates are now known to have been feeding Mr. Steele information.

Make of the evidence what you will.
In summary, Clinton got to buy a warrant for the opposition campaign, with assistance from Putin.
And Obama's FBI / DOJ appear to have been complicit in this act, to the point of committing numerous crimes to see it done.

Utterly retarded, as in you are utterly retarded.

Thanks for confirming my suspicion though, once a righty always a righty.

 

[Meghan54]

This gave me a good chuckle....

 

[brycejones]

Grassley and Graham add damning new details.

• Was Russian propaganda, paid for by Clinton, brought forth as evidence before any FISA judge?
  Confirmed.

The Steele dossier was "the bulk" of evidence used in the FISA court, on multiple occasions. It's sources include the Russian Government.

• And did the FBI and/or DOJ know, at the time, that the information was corrupt and/or falsified?
  Confirmed.

The FBI and/or DOJ knew of bias, lies, and the sources involved, yet they continued to vouch for Mr. Steele in the FISA court.
In addition, close Clinton associates are now known to have been feeding Mr. Steele information.

Make of the evidence what you will.
In summary, Clinton got to buy a warrant for the opposition campaign, with assistance from Putin.
And Obama's FBI / DOJ appear to have been complicit in this act, to the point of committing numerous crimes to see it done.

You are smarter than using fucking hannity as a source for anything.

 

[Victorian Gray]

You are smarter than using fucking hannity as a source for anything.

And yet he did.

 

[boomerang]

Uh-oh. Lovebirds Strzok and Page's texts indicate that 0bama wanted to know everything they were doing in the efforts to keep Trump out of the White House.

Newly-released Strzok-Page lovebird text messages: 'potus wants to know everything we're doing'

 

[MomentsofSanity]

And when you thinking citing Hannity is the height of stupidity, along comes American "Thinker".

 

[zinfamous]

Uh-oh. Lovebirds Strzok and Page's texts indicate that 0bama wanted to know everything they were doing in the efforts to keep Trump out of the White House.

Newly-released Strzok-Page lovebird text messages: 'potus wants to know everything we're doing'

Uh oh, the amygdala is engorged.

 

[fskimospy]

Uh-oh. Lovebirds Strzok and Page's texts indicate that 0bama wanted to know everything they were doing in the efforts to keep Trump out of the White House.

Newly-released Strzok-Page lovebird text messages: 'potus wants to know everything we're doing'

I love how you’re too lazy and stupid to even read your own bullshit link. It clearly says Obama wanted to be informed about the Clinton email investigation, not investigations into Trump.

I mean the American Thinker is made to generate ultra right wing opinion pieces to dupe useful idiots like yourself but if you’re going to parrot their bullshit you should at least read it first. Lol.

Thanks for the laugh.

 

[skull]

He thinks its proof obama was helping hillary get out of it.

The text about the new evidence a month before comey announces it a week before the election is interesting.

 

[Commodus]

Uh-oh. Lovebirds Strzok and Page's texts indicate that 0bama wanted to know everything they were doing in the efforts to keep Trump out of the White House.

Newly-released Strzok-Page lovebird text messages: 'potus wants to know everything we're doing'

People have already mentioned that you clearly didn't read (or at least, didn't understand) your own link, but I'll ask something:

Do you ever actually check news sources that aren't part of the hard-right circle jerk (American Thinker, Fox, Breitbart, Daily Caller)? And do you actually bother to question the veracity of reporting at all outlets, not just the ones that disagree with you? I'm pretty sure the answer to both is "no."

 

[VRAMdemon]

Everyone is so focused on collusion, screaming about memos and FISA warrants and pee-tapes and such, meanwhile Mueller's executing warrants in the Grenadines, Cyprus, St. Vincent and Germany against foreign banks with Trump/Putin/Russian Mafia ties. Its the financial shenanigans that will possibly bring him down.

I'd suspect Mueller knows quite a bit more than he's letting on. I think he's building a case based on decades of evidence and behaviors, and "colluding in the Russian attempt to influence the US election" is going be like criminal charge #52.

It's not that Trump suddenly learned to love Russia because they could leak Democrat emails. Trump has been walking hand in hand with Putin and his oligarchs for decades as one of their money laundering conduits. He knew what he was doing the whole time, he didn't care, because it's business. He was making his bank, and getting his "loans that never have to be repaid at 0.0% interest" (effectively a payoff) from them for years.

IMO that's what Mueller's going to bring with the indictments. The criminal history (and it will be a history) of Donald Trump. Granted some may be unprosecutable because of the statute of limitations (maybe, I don't know), but he'll still bring that info out because it's background. It's going to be: "The Unauthorized Criminal Biography of Donald J. Trump, by Robert S. Mueller ESQ." Gonna be a best seller, too.

 

[Commodus]

Everyone is so focused on collusion, screaming about memos and FISA warrants and pee-tapes and such, meanwhile Mueller's executing warrants in the Grenadines, Cyprus, St. Vincent and Germany against foreign banks with Trump/Putin/Russian Mafia ties. Its the financial shenanigans that will possibly bring him down.

I'd suspect Mueller knows quite a bit more than he's letting on. I think he's building a case based on decades of evidence and behaviors, and "colluding in the Russian attempt to influence the US election" is going be like criminal charge #52.

It's not that Trump suddenly learned to love Russia because they could leak Democrat emails. Trump has been walking hand in hand with Putin and his oligarchs for decades as one of their money laundering conduits. He knew what he was doing the whole time, he didn't care, because it's business. He was making his bank, and getting his "loans that never have to be repaid at 0.0% interest" (effectively a payoff) from them for years.

IMO that's what Mueller's going to bring with the indictments. The criminal history (and it will be a history) of Donald Trump. Granted some may be unprosecutable because of the statute of limitations (maybe, I don't know), but he'll still bring that info out because it's background. It's going to be: "The Unauthorized Criminal Biography of Donald J. Trump, by Robert S. Mueller ESQ." Gonna be a best seller, too.

That's a good point. Remember, Al Capone was busted for tax evasion, not charges directly related to organized crime. And Trump is one of those tycoons who depends on sketchy business practices (cheating contractors, Trump U fraud and other forms of 'creative accounting') to make his fortune. This is going to be a long investigation, but I'm sure the Republicans are crossing their fingers hoping that they don't go into the mid-terms with Trump indicted on financial crimes.

 

[interchange]

The attempts to rope Obama into a conspiracy against Trump / pro Hillary are funny. If a sitting president gets intelligence information that the Secretary of State's emails have been hacked and potentially contain highly classified information, and subsequently learns that the hack emanates from a foreign state, what are they supposed to do? I think staying abreast of the investigation is quite a responsible action. Now, if he attempted to influence the investigation, that would be different. I could certainly see him getting in trouble if he asked the investigators to swear loyalty to him, fired investigators for their conflicts of interest into his personal connection to the investigation, tried to protect political allies he knew were guilty of crimes, ordered firing of investigators that prompted members of his team to threaten resignation if carried out... That would be bad if Obama had done that.