Reinstitute the Draft now...

Page 3 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

arsbanned

Banned
Dec 12, 2003
4,853
0
0
He's dedicated all 12 years of his life to "battling fanaticism (yet he's still alive) and terrorism"....

HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. OMG, I swear this sh!t HAS to be made up! It's comedy gold!
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
11,521
0
76
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: palehorse74
I want more people to see all of the good that we are doing over there so that they come back and spread the truth.

2100+ have spread the truth loudly enough for the thinking Americans. Kthxbye

more than 2500 died on the first day of D-day in a mission to accomplish a greater good.

That is called sacrifice, and the men and women of the 40's were willing to do so. They were patriots and heroes, all of them. Their entire generation knew that we should not take our Country for granted, and they commited to sacrificing whatever was needed to end the atrocities in Europe, Asia, and Africa.

Less that 2500 in 4 years of fighting is hardly too large a price to pay for what will hopefully become a stable ME within a few decades. I personally see this mission as righteous as the fight against fascism in the 1930's and 1940's.
 

tnitsuj

Diamond Member
May 22, 2003
5,446
0
76
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: dahunan
Ask your senators and congressmen why THEIR children are not in the armed forces

Why do I not believe you were ever in the military

I'll have to search for it but I remember hearing that something like .7% of the population at large has a relative serving in Iraq and 1% of congress has a relative serving in Iraq.

But now we're into a whole other thread... ;)

1% while they try to convince you how special this war is.. seems like a lack of support :D -- yes.. *off topic from OP.. sorry

But more support than the population at large. ;)




Their family lives off of the public tit for most of their whole life .. you would think they would send more of their children to reimburse us for the tax money they steal from us.
So now a republican government is "stealing" tax money? oh the irony...

please stay OT. draft = the topic.


Where in Iraq were, you what FOB's, and what specifically is your MOS?
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
11,521
0
76
why does support for a different position around here always end with people questioning my personal integrity and character, and name-calling?

I asked what you would think, say, or do IF they reinstituted a draft, and all you have responded with is attacks and propoganda.

I'll try one last time...

What would you think, say, or do IF they reinstituted a draft?
 

Uhtrinity

Platinum Member
Dec 21, 2003
2,263
202
106
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: palehorse74
I want more people to see all of the good that we are doing over there so that they come back and spread the truth.

2100+ have spread the truth loudly enough for the thinking Americans. Kthxbye

more than 2500 died on the first day of D-day in a mission to accomplish a greater good.

That is called sacrifice, and the men and women of the 40's were willing to do so. They were patriots and heroes, all of them. Their entire generation knew that we should not take our Country for granted, and they commited to sacrificing whatever was needed to end the atrocities in Europe, Asia, and Africa.

Less that 2500 in 4 years of fighting is hardly too large a price to pay for what will hopefully become a stable ME within a few decades. I personally see this mission as righteous as the fight against fascism in the 1930's and 1940's.


Do not compare WWII and Iraq. WWII was for the greater good, Iraq is just bad politics.
 

Uhtrinity

Platinum Member
Dec 21, 2003
2,263
202
106
Originally posted by: palehorse74
why does support for a different position around here always end with people questioning my personal integrity and character, and name-calling?

I asked what you would think, say, or do IF they reinstituted a draft, and all you have responded with is attacks and propoganda.

I'll try one last time...

What would you think, say, or do IF they reinstituted a draft?


I would think it as a stupid move, but in the end it would push the public even more against the neo con agenda. Personnaly I wouldn't be affected as I have already done my time.

It's funny you mention propaganda, but you seem to have fallen for the neocons version hook line and sinker..
 

Stunt

Diamond Member
Jul 17, 2002
9,717
2
0
Originally posted by: palehorse74
What would you think, say, or do IF they reinstituted a draft?
I'd say: "Stupid Americans"
And invite some of the great tallent the US has to offer a place in Canada.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
What do I think? I think this proves you're a liar. No way that you served in uniform for the US. No one wants a draft, esp. those in the Pentagon.

You're just some keyboard commando hoopin' up your oversized ego and playing e-thug.


Congrats.
 

Stunt

Diamond Member
Jul 17, 2002
9,717
2
0
Originally posted by: conjur
You're just some keyboard commando hoopin' up your oversized ego and playing e-thug.


Congrats.
palehorse74, How dare you encroach on conjur's role! :laugh:
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
11,521
0
76
Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: dahunan
Ask your senators and congressmen why THEIR children are not in the armed forces

Why do I not believe you were ever in the military

I'll have to search for it but I remember hearing that something like .7% of the population at large has a relative serving in Iraq and 1% of congress has a relative serving in Iraq.

But now we're into a whole other thread... ;)

1% while they try to convince you how special this war is.. seems like a lack of support :D -- yes.. *off topic from OP.. sorry

But more support than the population at large. ;)




Their family lives off of the public tit for most of their whole life .. you would think they would send more of their children to reimburse us for the tax money they steal from us.
So now a republican government is "stealing" tax money? oh the irony...

please stay OT. draft = the topic.

Where in Iraq were, you what FOB's, and what specifically is your MOS?
My MOS for the last 10 years was 11B, but I've recently reclassed 97E...

Afghanistan: Ghazni and Zabul (FOB Lagman)
Iraq: FOB Normandy for the whopping 7 weeks I was there before ending up in Germany...
 

Meuge

Banned
Nov 27, 2005
2,963
0
0
I am not afraid. The draft will have to be instituted, given that the current events have nearly destroyed the recruiting capabilities of the armed forces. Sucks for those of us who might be drafted.

I wouldn't WANT to go, but if I had to, I'd fight. I owe that much to this country.
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
11,521
0
76
Originally posted by: Meuge
I am not afraid. The draft will have to be instituted, given that the current events have nearly destroyed the recruiting capabilities of the armed forces. Sucks for those of us who might be drafted.

I wouldn't WANT to go, but if I had to, I'd fight. I owe that much to this country.
now THAT was a beautiful thing to see after all of the other negativity around here...
 

Proletariat

Diamond Member
Dec 9, 2004
5,614
0
0
I wouldn't care about being drafted. I'd prefer to be in the Air Force.

Taking out Iranian jets Top Gun style :)

I'd even get the sunglasses like Tom Cruise.
 

RichardE

Banned
Dec 31, 2005
10,246
2
0
I would fight for an american green card :) Not yet, but after my graduate courses are done, suppose they will be Iran by than, or fighting China :)
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
Originally posted by: Meuge
I am not afraid. The draft will have to be instituted, given that the current events have nearly destroyed the recruiting capabilities of the armed forces. Sucks for those of us who might be drafted.

I wouldn't WANT to go, but if I had to, I'd fight. I owe that much to this country.
Wouldn't it be better to see that we don't engage Iran in a war? That would be a fatal mistake for the US. Who's going to fund the deficit spending for that war?
 

Uhtrinity

Platinum Member
Dec 21, 2003
2,263
202
106
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Meuge
I am not afraid. The draft will have to be instituted, given that the current events have nearly destroyed the recruiting capabilities of the armed forces. Sucks for those of us who might be drafted.

I wouldn't WANT to go, but if I had to, I'd fight. I owe that much to this country.
now THAT was a beautiful thing to see after all of the other negativity around here...


I have yet to see you try to counter any of the 'propaganda' you claim exists in this forum. You have been like all the trolls and pick and choose what to respond to, but never offer any valid debate or input. I have browsed and been active in this forum for over 2 years and have seen many debates, and have seen quite a few right wingers re-evaluate their postions. Heck, Conjur was one of them. You can either engage in debate or you will be marked as a troll and not be taken seriously.

For starters, I praise you for fighting in Afganistan in the war on terror, but what does Iraq have to do with that?
 

Proletariat

Diamond Member
Dec 9, 2004
5,614
0
0
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Meuge
I am not afraid. The draft will have to be instituted, given that the current events have nearly destroyed the recruiting capabilities of the armed forces. Sucks for those of us who might be drafted.

I wouldn't WANT to go, but if I had to, I'd fight. I owe that much to this country.
Wouldn't it be better to see that we don't engage Iran in a war? That would be a fatal mistake for the US. Who's going to fund the deficit spending for that war?

LOL you know the obvious answer to that. Take control of Iran's oil.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Meuge
I am not afraid. The draft will have to be instituted, given that the current events have nearly destroyed the recruiting capabilities of the armed forces. Sucks for those of us who might be drafted.

I wouldn't WANT to go, but if I had to, I'd fight. I owe that much to this country.
Wouldn't it be better to see that we don't engage Iran in a war? That would be a fatal mistake for the US. Who's going to fund the deficit spending for that war?
LOL you know the obvious answer to that. Take control of Iran's oil.
Yeah, like that won't cause terrorism to increase another order of magnitude like invading Iraq did.

Are the PNAC fvcks that hell-bent on world domination that they'll destroy the world to do it?
 

5150Joker

Diamond Member
Feb 6, 2002
5,549
0
71
www.techinferno.com
Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Meuge
I am not afraid. The draft will have to be instituted, given that the current events have nearly destroyed the recruiting capabilities of the armed forces. Sucks for those of us who might be drafted.

I wouldn't WANT to go, but if I had to, I'd fight. I owe that much to this country.
now THAT was a beautiful thing to see after all of the other negativity around here...


I have yet to see you try to counter any of the 'propaganda' you claim exists in this forum. You have been like all the trolls and pick and choose what to respond to, but never offer any valid debate or input. I have browsed and been active in this forum for over 2 years and have seen many debates, and have seen quite a few right wingers re-evaluate their postions. Heck, Conjur was one of them. You can either engage in debate or you will be marked as a troll and not be taken seriously.

For starters, I praise you for fighting in Afganistan in the war on terror, but what does Iraq have to do with that?


Afghanistan was just a scapegoat in the "war on terror" as well. The Taliban hosted Osama and were ousted but the root cause of terrorism and its sponsorship goes right back to Saudi Arabia. If there were really a war on terror, that is where it should have taken place.
 

Engineer

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
39,230
701
126
Originally posted by: conjur
Are the PNAC fvcks that hell-bent on world domination that they'll destroy the world to do it?

I assume that was a RHETORICAL question? :shocked:
 

Proletariat

Diamond Member
Dec 9, 2004
5,614
0
0
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Meuge
I am not afraid. The draft will have to be instituted, given that the current events have nearly destroyed the recruiting capabilities of the armed forces. Sucks for those of us who might be drafted.

I wouldn't WANT to go, but if I had to, I'd fight. I owe that much to this country.
Wouldn't it be better to see that we don't engage Iran in a war? That would be a fatal mistake for the US. Who's going to fund the deficit spending for that war?
LOL you know the obvious answer to that. Take control of Iran's oil.
Yeah, like that won't cause terrorism to increase another order of magnitude like invading Iraq did.

Are the PNAC fvcks that hell-bent on world domination that they'll destroy the world to do it?

Dunno.

Destroy the sick parts of the world and then rebuild them...

Theres a physical therapy technique like that called the Graston Technique. Destroy the scar tissue and exercise it so it comes back in a healthier form.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
Iran is a "sick part"? Why? Because the US doesn't agree with their leadership?

What about the millions dying in Africa? Shouldn't that be of more concern? Guess not since there's no oil there and no way for American companies to reap profits from raping the natural resources of conquered countries in the name of "spreading democracy"
 

RichardE

Banned
Dec 31, 2005
10,246
2
0
Originally posted by: conjur
Iran is a "sick part"? Why? Because the US doesn't agree with their leadership?

What about the millions dying in Africa? Shouldn't that be of more concern? Guess not since there's no oil there and no way for American companies to reap profits from raping the natural resources of conquered countries in the name of "spreading democracy"

Need oil to rebuild :)
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
11,521
0
76
Originally posted by: conjur
Iran is a "sick part"? Why? Because the US doesn't agree with their leadership?

What about the millions dying in Africa? Shouldn't that be of more concern? Guess not since there's no oil there and no way for American companies to reap profits from raping the natural resources of conquered countries in the name of "spreading democracy"

How many Africans are lobbying for the complete and total destruction of the Jewish people? How many of them have overtly threatened nuclear destruction of another country (Israel)? How many of them are currently building nuclear facilities capable of refining uranium into weapons-grade material? How many of them give the finger to all of Europe and America while housing and supporting some the world's most-wanted terrorists? How many of them sponsor terrorism outside of their own countries, and do so overtly? (Hezbullah)...?

Are you seriously doubting the sickness that is Iran's leadership? seriously?

And how can you ignore the direct impact oil has on the stability of the global economy? While it's never a "pretty" coorelation to make, it's ultimately true and therefore cannot be ignored. Oil = the world's most important natural resource; therefore it's inevitable that it must be one of the major considerations regarding stability. Aren't you educated enough to recognize that reality?