CPA
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Vince is the answer both from a marketing standpoint and a talent standpoint. There's a reason why Matress Mac and others are taking out full page ads in the Chronicle endorsing Young. Mac said today that once his contract is over with the Texans he will be hesistant to renew without Young leading the team. You don't mess with Matress Mac.
Bush, hands down...he's a once-every 15 years talent, and the closest thing to Gayle Sayers the NFL has ever seen.
Agree they need to improve their O-line.
Mario Williams is a freakish physical talent, but I'm not sold on him as a dominant NFL player, his college career was no wear near as dominating as it should have been.
Lendale White is an every-down back? Please. He's a nice power back, ran behind a very dominant O-line, average speed, no hands....average nfl back at best..way to get in shape for the combine and your pro-day workouts moron.
I think David Carr is going to be just fine...they now have a legit #2 WR in Moulds, LB's trying to cover Bush out of the backfield are in a world of trouble...key goes back to that O-Line though.
I say the draft goes like this
Bush/Williams/Leinhart/Ferguson/AJ Hawk...#6 pick is where things get dicey...have to think the Raiders at #7 would take Young
Agree they need to improve their O-line.
Mario Williams is a freakish physical talent, but I'm not sold on him as a dominant NFL player, his college career was no wear near as dominating as it should have been.
Lendale White is an every-down back? Please. He's a nice power back, ran behind a very dominant O-line, average speed, no hands....average nfl back at best..way to get in shape for the combine and your pro-day workouts moron.
I think David Carr is going to be just fine...they now have a legit #2 WR in Moulds, LB's trying to cover Bush out of the backfield are in a world of trouble...key goes back to that O-Line though.
I say the draft goes like this
Bush/Williams/Leinhart/Ferguson/AJ Hawk...#6 pick is where things get dicey...have to think the Raiders at #7 would take Young
You build teams on the lines first. I would either take Williams or Ferguson. It is possible if the Texans can work a trade down to 5 or 6, they could still get one of those two, while gathering extra picks along the way. Bush is a special player, but the Texans don't really need him as much as they do other positions.
edit: QB is the only position more important than the lines, but the Texans already have Carr, whom they like at QB.
edit: QB is the only position more important than the lines, but the Texans already have Carr, whom they like at QB.
Where did you get that info from? Mattress Mac that is... I thought it was speculation that Matress Mac took out that ad. Just wondering..
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Mac is coming out with a 2 page ad tomorrow (Thursday). The ad by Holly what'shisface was not Mac. In fact, neither know each other. There's a write-up about it in today's Chronicle. Mac says he's not been happy with his investment in the Texans and wants Young.
Everyone makes good points, but you cannot pass on Bush if you are the Texans. They will be ridiculed and mocked to no end when Bush turns out to be a game breaker. All the experts say he's the best player to come out in 10 years and is like a Gale Sayers or Barry Sanders. I think the smart thing would be to try and trade down and get Mario or Ferguson. But if you have the #1 pick you gotta grab Bush.
Mario. Me thinks DevilsAdvocate is right on the money. Mario can immediately make an impact and cause trouble for opposing teams. He will be a star for many many years.
On potential, Ladainian Tomlinson (Reggie Bush) vs Julius Peppers (Mario Williams). I would take Bush, you would have to build an o-line though.
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Same. They would be stupid not to take VY, Carr is a joke. Even if the Texans can't find someone to fill the O-Line, they could just trade Carr for an OL that is close to William's caliber. Hell, they could trade VY for a Williams caliber guy + more. Let's face it, offensive players will always pack more people in the stadium. They would get more face value with either Reggie or VY in the event they ever did have to trade them for an OL + more.
Edit: I was also reading an article on espn where the writer scouted Williams this season. He said the guy is in no way the next Peppers, and that Williams is way overrated.
And that is his opinion, but many disagree, including the people who actually participate in the draft. He has much to learn but still...he is 6' 7", ~295lbs and runs the 40 in under 4.7. He is a freak...and you can't teach that.
SP33Demon
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The main question I have is, why all the hype about Williams now? There was no hype about him from the start, hell the Ohio State LB's were more hyped than Williams just a month or two ago. That should tell you something in itself.
Also, what do you think about an offensive player like a QB/RB being more "valuable" as far as tradebait than an OL? Agree or disagree?
IAteYourMother
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dan marino didn't either, yet if Dan Marino was in the draft now, and if I knew how good he would be, I would draft him in a heartbeat
Because no one gives a damn about NC State (I went there). Also because Williams was not sure whether he would declare for the draft or not. OSU has been in the spotlight for...decades. We've always been under the radar. You do know that many players come from lesser known schools (far more obscure than even NCSU), and succeed in the NFL, right?
Agreed about the "tradebait". For all we know, the Texans could have a trade setup where they take Bush with the 1st pick, then get a solid lineman and a lower 1st rd pick.
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