Reducing the poor- FORCE birth control on welfare recipiants

[nan0bug]

I used welfare when my daughter first arrived. Without the help I probbably wouldn't have been able to afford formula. 9 months (6 in our case, we didn't find out until the 3rd month) isn't a very long time to go from being a complete slacker to a responsible parent, and welfare provides a cushion for that. I don't use it anymore and haven't needed it for a long time, but without it I doubt I would have been able to get where I am right now.

Contrary to what you believe, a lot of people don't abuse the system. They use it the way it was intended to be used.

 

[Gulzakar]

Where I work, I see a lot of Welfare people getting state Medi-Cal for having umpteen million children... morons who can't afford to have the children are breeding like rats. If they do have any money, it's very liquid or in their childrens name enabling them to keep their government cheese. The welfare recepients are the most whiney, bitchy people I've met. To them, beggers can be chosers. I see so many pregnant teen moms come in here...they have no clue how the real world works, but they are being handed welfare checks and health care like ruffees at a frat party.

Think I'm being a dick?

I see some families who work their asses off and still barely make ends meat...these people don't qualify for any type of welfare because they are usually just a hair above the poverty line. What do these people do? They either work harder or slip down to welfare...which one is easier? Going to blame it on the government? Think again...somone earlier said it's the land of opportunity, the very fabric of American Society. Medicare and Medi-Cal is what I do everyday. Some people are hard workers and HATE the idea of being on welfare, and to them, I sympathize, I comfort, and I uindertand. When these overly needy asshats come in with a child on each hip, I usually go ballistic.

Human Rights Violations? The bleeding hearts in here need a reality smack.

 

[Geekbabe]

We can spend it on healthcare,education and nutrition or we can spend it on building more prisons and increasing our police forces.

I'd rather risk having compassion than risk being murdered in my way to work or in contracting TB from an uninsured homeless person.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: nan0bug
I used welfare when my daughter first arrived. Without the help I probbably wouldn't have been able to afford formula. 9 months (6 in our case, we didn't find out until the 3rd month) isn't a very long time to go from being a complete slacker to a responsible parent, and welfare provides a cushion for that. I don't use it anymore and haven't needed it for a long time, but without it I doubt I would have been able to get where I am right now.

Contrary to what you believe, a lot of people don't abuse the system. They use it the way it was intended to be used.

Not according to the Conservative Media, next on Faux News!

 

[alkemyst]

i am going to make a statement here...

My parents were once dirt poor, they'd eat noodles and be happy to have butter to put on them....my mother was pregnant with me and my dad a vietnam vet at the time (about 1970-1).....

My mom was expecting and my family was dirt poor, if it wasn't for my dad's mother giving them a house to finish paying on they'd have no where to go (they were most children of rich parents, my mother's mother owned a hotel on the Ft. Lauderdale Strip).....they didn't use Financial aid.....they went without and luckily by the time I was born my dad got a nice position.

However he was educated and unfortunately if he wasn't that may have been the long downward spiral for us.

He is now very successful and gives back a lot in donations and charity. They never forget where they were at one point in there lives.

Whenever you have sex you risk pregnancy....the remarks about new baby = no money are flawed in basically you are taking away about the only free fun thing these people have left. I am sure way more than not protect themselves.

Sure there are people screwing the system.....when I worked pharmacy some weeks I'd load $5-10k in free medical into the back of a Lexus or Infinity SUV for a woman decked out in Prada and Tiffany Co.

It happens...you can't fault the law abiding for the wrongs of the criminals even if it makes it a nice easy sweep under the throw rug.

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[Quixfire]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
We can spend it on healthcare,education and nutrition or we can spend it on building more prisons and increasing our police forces.

While this seems like the only two choices, history has proven neither of these work.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
We can spend it on healthcare,education and nutrition or we can spend it on building more prisons and increasing our police forces.

I'd rather risk having compassion than risk being murdered in my way to work or in contracting TB from an uninsured homeless person.

homeless=murderer/TB carrier?

I am not sure what your point is above...the grammar is terrible.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: JEDI
From this THREAD

If you're on welfare, odds are that your children will also be on welfare when they grow up. It's a never ending cycle.

So why not inject birth control to all the women of child bearing age? If you don't get an injection, then no $ for you.

And no, i'm not sexist. If there was a male birth control, then force it on them too. but there isn't one that u can inject and last for months.

hm..tie the tubes and vasectomies is an idea. but they're only reversible for a time.

Right to bear children? HA! If you can't afford to take care of yourself w/o handouts, then you should be banned from having children!

Your thoughts?

That sounds like something the Nazis would think was a great idea.

How doing something positve and constructive like improving education and health care instead?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: BAMAVOO

Yeah, where in the basic human rights list does it ensure free money to irresponsible people?

How are they irresonsible? Maybe they got laid off, fired, or their company went bankrupt. Not everyone chooses to be poor. Not everyone remains poor their entire life. IF we are to do anything, help them find a job and give them encouragement.

uh if you're laid off, fired, etc and you have a child, that is irresponsible.

i disagree with that.

I am NOT irresponsible and i have been laid off twice. first time from a company that was sold and they didn't want anyone who worked for the other place (just wanted the pantents) 2nd one was when the economy went down and the company wanted to increase profits.

Now neither time did i go on welfare or even unemployment.

to say all people that are laid off are irresponsible is silly. sometimes you cant controll that.

 

[Red Dawn]

Reducing the poor- FORCE birth control on welfare recipiants

Yeah those poor are really annoying

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
We can spend it on healthcare,education and nutrition or we can spend it on building more prisons and increasing our police forces.

I'd rather risk having compassion than risk being murdered in my way to work or in contracting TB from an uninsured homeless person.

homeless=murderer/TB carrier?

I am not sure what your point is above...the grammar is terrible.

With poverty comes crime.Also poor folks without access to preventative,regular healthcare often fall ill to diseases which can put the rest of us at risk.